From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18793 invoked by alias); 27 May 2016 03:37:09 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Received: (qmail 18729 invoked by uid 89); 27 May 2016 03:37:01 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=3.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 spammy=fifteen, sk:lloydw, D*yahoo.co.uk, U*lloyd.wood X-HELO: gproxy10-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com Received: from gproxy10-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (HELO gproxy10-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com) (69.89.20.226) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with SMTP; Fri, 27 May 2016 03:36:51 +0000 Received: (qmail 14444 invoked by uid 0); 27 May 2016 03:36:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw2) (10.0.90.83) by gproxy10.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 27 May 2016 03:36:48 -0000 Received: from box867.bluehost.com ([69.195.124.67]) by cmgw2 with id zFcj1s00K1TMts501FcmKH; Thu, 26 May 2016 21:36:46 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=LKr1Hvm9 c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=x/h8IXy5FZdipniTS+KQtQ==:117 a=x/h8IXy5FZdipniTS+KQtQ==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=CnPQkyIfcMwA:10 a=HuP01ReZ-C4A:10 a=yrkiwgmsf1kA:10 a=BrDiTsk0AAAA:8 a=-UKeVn1vAAAA:8 a=w_pzkKWiAAAA:8 a=uPZQWH_IGdm9wHBJac0A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=fK1jZSgjKPFatbRoI9mg:22 a=WokSTbXykwxvpjcVos24:22 a=sRI3_1zDfAgwuvI8zelB:22 Received: from [99.106.192.34] (port=62719 helo=[192.168.1.86]) by box867.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1b68Zp-0007j9-GS for cygwin@cygwin.com; Thu, 26 May 2016 21:36:45 -0600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Subject: Re: changes in 32-bit Cygwin OpenGL causing crashes? From: Vince Rice In-Reply-To: <1871468680.106497.1464318087251.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 09:37:00 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <05C369EA-F8BA-42F8-A2F8-411AA29ED8A3@solidrocksystems.com> References: <538382235.210794.1464156496492.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <538382235.210794.1464156496492.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <1871468680.106497.1464318087251.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> To: "cygwin@cygwin.com" X-Identified-User: {3986:box867.bluehost.com:solidrr2:solidrocksystems.com} {sentby:smtp auth 99.106.192.34 authed with vrice@solidrocksystems.com} X-Exim-ID: 1b68Zp-0007j9-GS X-Source-Sender: ([192.168.1.86]) [99.106.192.34]:62719 X-Source-Auth: vrice@solidrocksystems.com X-Email-Count: 0 X-Source-Cap: c29saWRycjI7c29saWRycjI7Ym94ODY3LmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== X-IsSubscribed: yes X-SW-Source: 2016-05/txt/msg00344.txt.bz2 > On May 26, 2016, at 10:01 PM, lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk wrote: >=20 > It's odd, the amount of extra support that Cygwin needs. >=20 > Okay, OpenGL is broken in 32-bit cygwin, not for the first > time. >=20 > I'm unsure if OpenGL is broken in 64-bit cygwin, because > the piping my applications use is broken in 64-bit cygwin - > and only there. Not in any other linux or unix I've run on. > So, it's rather tempting to blame 64-bit Cygwin. >=20 > But the OpenGL code is clearly obviously different > and later in 64-bit Cygwin, because it builds to different > function names (dropped a bunch of EXTs.) That's... odd. > But in any case, we have a -noopengl flag just to work > around OpenGL segfaulting in 32-bit Cygwin (and whether > 64-bit segfaults is unknown, because piping problems.). >=20 > And there are graphical glitches I see in 32-bit Cygwin > Tcl/Tk, but not in 64-bit Cygwin Tcl/Tk or anywhere else, > 32- or 64-bit, in Linux/Unix land. >=20 > Those are the major things that come to mind when I think=20 > of Cygwin. >=20 > Notes at: > http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/software/SaVi/building-under-Windows/ >=20 > where I try and suggest to users that Cygwin is not > their best choice. Really. >=20 > It's been over fifteen years of 'under construction' so far. First, please don't https://cygwin.com/acronyms/#TOFU. Second, https://cygwin.com/acronyms/#PCYMTNQREAIYR. Third, it=E2=80=99s posts like this that make me wish a former co-leader =3D was still around. Here are the major things that come to mind when I think of Cygwin. Gratitude. Oceans and oceans of gratitude. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple