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From: Christian Franke <Christian.Franke@t-online.de>
To: cygwin <cygwin@cygwin.com>
Subject: Re: Question about slow access to file information
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2023 16:21:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <08d1d7ae-32b7-45b3-595a-ae92eff9f8e1@t-online.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cbc3fce3-64a5-47af-0cf1-5ca55daf176a@cs.umass.edu>

Eliot Moss via Cygwin wrote:
> On 1/15/2023 3:38 AM, Christian Franke via Cygwin wrote:
>> Eliot Moss via Cygwin wrote:
>>> I have a separate drive mounted this way:
>>>
>>> d:/ /cygdrive/d ntfs binary,posix=0,user,noacl,auto 0 0
>>>
>>> One thing I use it for is to store backup files.  These tend to be 2 Gb
>>> chunks, and there can be hundreds of them in the backup directory. 
>>> (The drive
>>> is 5Tb.)  The Windows Disk Management tool describes it as NTFS, 
>>> Basic Data
>>> Partition.
>>>
>>> Doing ls (for example) takes a very perceptible numbers of seconds 
>>> (though
>>> whatever takes a long time seems to be cached, at least for a while, 
>>> since a
>>> second ls soon after is fast).
>>
>> The problem is the 'noacl' mount option and the fact that POSIX only 
>> offers the *stat*() functions to retrieve file information. These 
>> functions always need to provide the full file information, even if 
>> only a small subset is needed.
>>
>> To determine the 'x'-permission bits in the 'stat.st_mode' field on a 
>> 'noacl'-mount, Cygwin reads the first bytes of most files (all except 
>> *.exe, *.lnk, *.com). The 'x' bits are set if the file starts with 
>> "#!" (script), ":\n" (?) or "MZ" (Windows executable).
>>
>> On 'noacl' mounts, this behavior could be suppressed by 'exec' or 
>> 'noexec' mount options.
>
> Interesting.  I removed the noacl from /etc/fstab and restarted all 
> Cygwin processes.
> The mount program now shows that drive without noacl.  It still takes 
> surprisingly
> long to ls if I have not done so recently.  The directory contains 
> ~1200 files.

This depends on storage device, sometimes (HDD) on filesystem 
fragmentation and always on 'ls' options. Plain '/bin/ls' without any 
arguments does not call stat(). 'ls -s' or 'ls --color=yes' call stat() 
for each file. 'ls -l' additionally calls getfacl() for each file if on 
an 'acl' mount. The latter is apparently slower than expected, see below.

Here a quick test on a directory with 10000 ~3KB files on a NTFS USB 
drive connected via USB-2 (~28MB/s raw read speed). The first test of 
each mount variant was done immediately after connecting the drive:

$ TIMEFORMAT='%R'

1. mount [-o acl]

$ time ls -l > /dev/null
4.282
$ time ls -l > /dev/null
1.322
$ time ls -s > /dev/null
0.404
$ time ls > /dev/null
0.032


2. mount -o noacl

$ time ls -l > /dev/null
13.452
$ time ls -l > /dev/null
0.789
$ time ls -s > /dev/null
0.764
$ time ls > /dev/null
0.033


3. mount -o noacl,noexec

$ time ls -l > /dev/null
3.215
$ time ls -l > /dev/null
0.368
$ time ls -s > /dev/null
0.355
$ time ls > /dev/null
0.032

-- 
Regards,
Christian


      parent reply	other threads:[~2023-01-17 15:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-14  0:42 Eliot Moss
2023-01-14 13:45 ` Adam Dinwoodie
2023-01-14 16:38 ` Christian Franke
2023-01-15  1:05   ` Eliot Moss
2023-01-15  3:24     ` gs-cygwin.com
2023-01-17 15:21     ` Christian Franke [this message]

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