From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 13606 invoked by alias); 26 Feb 2019 04:12:19 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Received: (qmail 13595 invoked by uid 89); 26 Feb 2019 04:12:19 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY,SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=no version=3.3.2 spammy=H*M:cygwin, Steven, steven X-HELO: mx1.redhat.com Received: from mx1.redhat.com (HELO mx1.redhat.com) (209.132.183.28) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with ESMTP; Tue, 26 Feb 2019 04:12:17 +0000 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx04.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.14]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8CA1281F0E for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2019 04:12:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ovpn-120-95.rdu2.redhat.com (ovpn-120-95.rdu2.redhat.com [10.10.120.95]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A5F505D9CC for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2019 04:12:11 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <0966bd837e33ca9ff07b13271211b2f5d2939793.camel@cygwin.com> Subject: Re: Python extraneous dependencies From: Yaakov Selkowitz To: cygwin@cygwin.com In-Reply-To: <5c73e2de.1c69fb81.51805.32cd@mx.google.com> References: <5c73e2de.1c69fb81.51805.32cd@mx.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 05:31:00 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SW-Source: 2019-02/txt/msg00427.txt.bz2 On Mon, 2019-02-25 at 04:43 -0800, Steven Penny wrote: > On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 17:42:36, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: > > On Sat, 2019-02-23 at 16:29 -0800, Steven Penny wrote: > > > I noticed that "python36" requires "binutils". > > > > This is needed for ctypes.util.find_library(). FWIW, on Linux, not > > only binutils is used, but also gcc. > > > > > Further, I noticed this dependency chain: > > > > > > python36 > libuuid-devel > pkg-config > libglib2.0_0 > > > > Until 3.7, the uuid stdlib module loads libuuid via ctypes, hence the > > dependency. In 3.7, there is a compiled binding, and so the -devel > > dependency was dropped. Also, pkgconf will soon be providing and > > replacing pkg-config, which will cause the glib2.0 dependency to be > > dropped. > > thanks. i was interested further in comparison so i took this file: > > https://python.org/ftp/python/3.6.8/python-3.6.8-embed-amd64.zip > > then use tar for fair comparison: > > tar -a -c -f python-3.6.8-embed-amd64.tar.xz python-3.6.8-embed-amd64 Did you look at the contents of that zip file? It's quite minimal, and therefore not a fair comparison at all. > and that doesnt include the other packages i previously discussed. so it almost > makes more sense to not even use the cygwin version? Hardly, but discussing how/why *not* to use Cygwin is OT IMO. -- Yaakov -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple