From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp-out-no.shaw.ca (smtp-out-no.shaw.ca [64.59.134.9]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2B8593851C34 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2020 11:54:03 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org 2B8593851C34 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=SystematicSw.ab.ca Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=brian.inglis@systematicsw.ab.ca Received: from [192.168.1.104] ([24.64.172.44]) by shaw.ca with ESMTP id oQS7jSAIqng7KoQS9jtTY3; Thu, 25 Jun 2020 05:54:01 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=ecemg4MH c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=kiZT5GMN3KAWqtYcXc+/4Q==:117 a=kiZT5GMN3KAWqtYcXc+/4Q==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=CCpqsmhAAAAA:8 a=w_pzkKWiAAAA:8 a=wzzr6iRepJa9Ih23BdQA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=NjwMzAnEdDAA:10 a=MKmnydF3FggA:10 a=ul9cdbp4aOFLsgKbc677:22 a=sRI3_1zDfAgwuvI8zelB:22 Reply-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Subject: Re: Apparent bug in either (1) Cygwin default Package-list or (2) Package "bzr" dependency-list To: The Cygwin Mailing List References: <45a8baf1-f636-7c03-ec1f-7c72ee73c56d@SystematicSw.ab.ca> From: Brian Inglis Autocrypt: addr=Brian.Inglis@SystematicSw.ab.ca; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mDMEXopx8xYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdAnCK0qv/xwUCCZQoA9BHRYpstERrspfT0NkUWQVuoePa0 LkJyaWFuIEluZ2xpcyA8QnJpYW4uSW5nbGlzQFN5c3RlbWF0aWNTdy5hYi5jYT6IlgQTFggA PhYhBMM5/lbU970GBS2bZB62lxu92I8YBQJeinHzAhsDBQkJZgGABQsJCAcCBhUKCQgLAgQW AgMBAh4BAheAAAoJEB62lxu92I8Y0ioBAI8xrggNxziAVmr+Xm6nnyjoujMqWcq3oEhlYGAO WacZAQDFtdDx2koSVSoOmfaOyRTbIWSf9/Cjai29060fsmdsDLg4BF6KcfMSCisGAQQBl1UB BQEBB0Awv8kHI2PaEgViDqzbnoe8B9KMHoBZLS92HdC7ZPh8HQMBCAeIfgQYFggAJhYhBMM5 /lbU970GBS2bZB62lxu92I8YBQJeinHzAhsMBQkJZgGAAAoJEB62lxu92I8YZwUBAJw/74rF IyaSsGI7ewCdCy88Lce/kdwX7zGwid+f8NZ3AQC/ezTFFi5obXnyMxZJN464nPXiggtT9gN5 RSyTY8X+AQ== Organization: Systematic Software Message-ID: <09e246c1-e76a-0527-4deb-9491f62602ae@SystematicSw.ab.ca> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2020 05:53:59 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-CA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfI81vbUDTEBJ1xwFQqgK3lCZYHOIfcxTcN+Tkkgn7s2vUiMxOFD8m85NJFKteTMbAlxJmc8icIg+nkIAw+T71GGHbsNuhYWdv86HLwKt1pXi0a9emhyC XG7/miSxOz9gU5RI06u9i6l5Lvw81eem6j+YYEhUmC/3Bea7r1D1mmdgnimuxusZosKqPg0BK4lCWw== X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, KAM_DMARC_STATUS, KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_NONE, TXREP autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: cygwin@cygwin.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: General Cygwin discussions and problem reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2020 11:54:04 -0000 On 2020-06-24 15:34, Jon Turney wrote: > On 21/06/2020 17:15, Brian Inglis wrote: >> On 2020-06-20 08:41, Jon Turney wrote: >>> On 19/06/2020 07:55, Brian Inglis wrote: >>> This analysis is not complete or correct because it doesn't take 'obsoletes:' >>> into account: >>> https://sourceware.org/git/?p=cygwin-apps/calm.git;a=commitdiff;h=d75abceedb46749982669236c5c102796a1fbfb1;hp=f92ad1d5c292ed54e7a62f5c52280efab8267f37 >>> >>> It does seem that things aren't working as intended, though. >> >> So does that obsoletes: mean something different than category: _obsoletes, >> which I view as a (Debian-like) virtual package declaration? > > There's no need to guess, when the source code is available to inspect. > > All the '_obsolete' category (note no 's') does is cause packages to get hidden > by the 'Hide obsolete packages' filter in setup (which is on by default). > > So yes, these are completely different things. > >> Are obsoletes and pre-depends documented anywhere else (and any other new >> keywords)? > > https://cygwin.com/packaging-hint-files.html > https://sourceware.org/cygwin-apps/setup.ini.html Thanks for the pointers. In: https://cygwin.com/git/?p=cygwin-htdocs.git;a=blob;f=packaging-package-files.html;hb=HEAD below, do you have a current URL for: https://sourceware.org/viewvc/cygwin-apps/packaging/templates/generic-readme?view=co 161
  • In your binary package, you may choose to include a file 162 /usr/share/doc/Cygwin/foo-vendor-suffix.README containing (at a minimum) the 163 information needed for an end user to recreate the package. This includes 164 CFLAGS settings, configure parameters, etc. (You can 165 adapt this 166 generic README.) 167
    • as I have tried some possible alternatives with the same result i.e. Forbidden You don't have permission to access /viewvc/cygwin-apps/packaging/templates/generic-readme on this server. e.g. http://sourceware.org/cvsweb.cgi/packaging/templates/generic-readme -- Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada This email may be disturbing to some readers as it contains too much technical detail. Reader discretion is advised. [Data in IEC units and prefixes, physical quantities in SI.]