* strftime man page is garbled
@ 2015-06-04 1:18 Wayne Pollock
2015-06-04 5:32 ` Marco Atzeri
2015-06-05 11:56 ` Jon TURNEY
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From: Wayne Pollock @ 2015-06-04 1:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin
The description section of the strftime man page is
garbled. The first paragraph shows as this:
=============================
into a null-terminated string, starting at S and occupying no more than
MAXSIZE characters.
You control the format of the output using the string at FORMAT.
literally into the formatted string, and
time conversion specifications. Time conversion specifications are two- and
three-character sequences beginâ
ning with ''%'' (use ''%%'' to include a percent sign in the output). Each
defined conversion specification
selects only the specified field(s) of calendar time data from '*TIMP', and
converts it to a string in one of
the following ways:
============================
In addition, none of the option letters show, only the
option descriptions. The info node at
"info libc timefns strftime" appears to be fine.
I have cygwin-doc version 1.7.35-1.
(I have a locale of C.UTF-8, if it matters.)
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* Re: strftime man page is garbled
2015-06-04 1:18 strftime man page is garbled Wayne Pollock
@ 2015-06-04 5:32 ` Marco Atzeri
2015-06-04 5:46 ` Achim Gratz
2015-06-05 11:56 ` Jon TURNEY
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From: Marco Atzeri @ 2015-06-04 5:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin
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On 6/4/2015 3:18 AM, Wayne Pollock wrote:
> The description section of the strftime man page is
> garbled. The first paragraph shows as this:
>
> =============================
>
> into a null-terminated string, starting at S and occupying no more than
> MAXSIZE characters.
>
> You control the format of the output using the string at FORMAT.
> literally into the formatted string, and
> time conversion specifications. Time conversion specifications are two- and
> three-character sequences beginâ
> ning with ''%'' (use ''%%'' to include a percent sign in the output). Each
> defined conversion specification
> selects only the specified field(s) of calendar time data from '*TIMP', and
> converts it to a string in one of
> the following ways:
>
> ============================
>
> In addition, none of the option letters show, only the
> option descriptions. The info node at
> "info libc timefns strftime" appears to be fine.
>
> I have cygwin-doc version 1.7.35-1.
> (I have a locale of C.UTF-8, if it matters.)
>
Works fine for me, I have a complete man page
see attached.
looks at the output of
man -d strftime
for any hint.
Regards
Marco
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STRFTIME(3) NEWLIB STRFTIME(3)
NAME
9.8 'strftime'--convert date and time to a formatted string
SYNOPSIS
#include <time.h>
size_t strftime(char *restrict S, size_t MAXSIZE,
const char *restrict FORMAT,
const struct tm *restrict TIMP);
DESCRIPTION
into a null-terminated string, starting at S and occupying no more than
MAXSIZE characters.
You control the format of the output using the string at FORMAT.
literally into the formatted string, and time conversion specifica‐
tions. Time conversion specifications are two- and three-character
sequences beginning with ''%'' (use ''%%'' to include a percent sign in
the output). Each defined conversion specification selects only the
specified field(s) of calendar time data from '*TIMP', and converts it
to a string in one of the following ways:
The abbreviated weekday name according to the current locale.
[tm_wday]
The full weekday name according to the current locale. In the
default "C" locale, one of ''Sunday'', ''Monday'', ''Tuesday'',
''Wednesday'', ''Thursday'', ''Friday'', ''Saturday''. [tm_wday]
The abbreviated month name according to the current locale.
[tm_mon]
The full month name according to the current locale. In the
default "C" locale, one of ''January'', ''February'', ''March'',
''April'', ''May'', ''June'', ''July'', ''August'', ''September'',
''October'', ''November'', ''December''. [tm_mon]
The preferred date and time representation for the current locale.
[tm_sec, tm_min, tm_hour, tm_mday, tm_mon, tm_year, tm_wday]
The century, that is, the year divided by 100 then truncated. For
4-digit years, the result is zero-padded and exactly two
characters; but for other years, there may a negative sign or more
digits. In this way, ''%C%y'' is equivalent to ''%Y''. [tm_year]
The day of the month, formatted with two digits (from ''01'' to
''31''). [tm_mday]
A string representing the date, in the form ''"%m/%d/%y"''.
[tm_mday, tm_mon, tm_year]
The day of the month, formatted with leading space if single digit
(from ''1'' to ''31''). [tm_mday]
In some locales, the E modifier selects alternative representa‐
tions
of certain modifiers 'x'. In newlib, it is ignored, and treated
as
%'x'.
A string representing the ISO 8601:2000 date format, in the form
''"%Y-%m-%d"''. [tm_mday, tm_mon, tm_year]
The last two digits of the week-based year, see specifier %G (from
''00'' to ''99''). [tm_year, tm_wday, tm_yday]
The week-based year. In the ISO 8601:2000 calendar, week 1 of the
year includes January 4th, and begin on Mondays. Therefore, if
January 1st, 2nd, or 3rd falls on a Sunday, that day and earlier
belong to the last week of the previous year; and if December
29th,
30th, or 31st falls on Monday, that day and later belong to week 1
of the next year. For consistency with %Y, it always has at least
four characters. Example: "%G" for Saturday 2nd January 1999
gives
"1998", and for Tuesday 30th December 1997 gives "1998".
[tm_year,
tm_wday, tm_yday]
Synonym for "%b". [tm_mon]
The hour (on a 24-hour clock), formatted with two digits (from
''00'' to ''23''). [tm_hour]
The hour (on a 12-hour clock), formatted with two digits (from
''01'' to ''12''). [tm_hour]
The count of days in the year, formatted with three digits (from
''001'' to ''366''). [tm_yday]
The hour (on a 24-hour clock), formatted with leading space if
single digit (from ''0'' to ''23''). Non-POSIX extension (c.p.
%I). [tm_hour]
The hour (on a 12-hour clock), formatted with leading space if
single digit (from ''1'' to ''12''). Non-POSIX extension (c.p.
%H). [tm_hour]
The month number, formatted with two digits (from ''01'' to
''12''). [tm_mon]
The minute, formatted with two digits (from ''00'' to ''59'').
[tm_min]
A newline character (''0').
In some locales, the O modifier selects alternative digit
characters for certain modifiers 'x'. In newlib, it is ignored,
and treated as %'x'.
Either ''AM'' or ''PM'' as appropriate, or the corresponding
strings for the current locale. [tm_hour]
Same as ''%p'', but in lowercase. This is a GNU extension.
[tm_hour]
Replaced by the time in a.m. and p.m. notation. In the "C"
locale this is equivalent to "%I:%M:%S %p". In locales which
don't
define a.m./p.m. notations, the result is an empty string.
[tm_sec, tm_min, tm_hour]
The 24-hour time, to the minute. Equivalent to "%H:%M". [tm_min,
tm_hour]
The second, formatted with two digits (from ''00'' to ''60'').
The
value 60 accounts for the occasional leap second. [tm_sec]
A tab character ('''').
The 24-hour time, to the second. Equivalent to "%H:%M:%S".
[tm_sec, tm_min, tm_hour]
The weekday as a number, 1-based from Monday (from ''1'' to
''7'').
[tm_wday]
The week number, where weeks start on Sunday, week 1 contains the
first Sunday in a year, and earlier days are in week 0. Formatted
with two digits (from ''00'' to ''53''). See also '%W'.
[tm_wday,
tm_yday]
The week number, where weeks start on Monday, week 1 contains
January 4th, and earlier days are in the previous year. Formatted
with two digits (from ''01'' to ''53''). See also '%G'.
[tm_year,
tm_wday, tm_yday]
The weekday as a number, 0-based from Sunday (from ''0'' to
''6'').
[tm_wday]
The week number, where weeks start on Monday, week 1 contains the
first Monday in a year, and earlier days are in week 0. Formatted
with two digits (from ''00'' to ''53''). [tm_wday, tm_yday]
Replaced by the preferred date representation in the current
locale. In the "C" locale this is equivalent to "%m/%d/%y".
[tm_mon, tm_mday, tm_year]
Replaced by the preferred time representation in the current
locale. In the "C" locale this is equivalent to "%H:%M:%S".
[tm_sec, tm_min, tm_hour]
The last two digits of the year (from ''00'' to ''99'').
[tm_year]
(Implementation interpretation: always positive, even for negative
years.)
The full year, equivalent to '%C%y'. It will always have at least
four characters, but may have more. The year is accurate even
when
tm_year added to the offset of 1900 overflows an int. [tm_year]
The offset from UTC. The format consists of a sign (negative is
west of Greewich), two characters for hour, then two characters
for
minutes (-hhmm or +hhmm). If tm_isdst is negative, the offset is
unknown and no output is generated; if it is zero, the offset is
the standard offset for the current time zone; and if it is
positive, the offset is the daylight savings offset for the cur‐
rent
timezone. The offset is determined from the TZ environment
variable, as if by calling tzset(). [tm_isdst]
The time zone name. If tm_isdst is negative, no output is
generated. Otherwise, the time zone name is based on the TZ
environment variable, as if by calling tzset(). [tm_isdst]
A single character, ''%''.
RETURNS
When the formatted time takes up no more than MAXSIZE characters, the
result is the length of the formatted string. Otherwise, if the for‐
matting operation was abandoned due to lack of room, the result is
PORTABILITY
ANSI C requires 'strftime', but does not specify the contents of '*S'
when the formatted string would require more than MAXSIZE characters.
Unrecognized specifiers and fields of 'timp' that are out of range
cause undefined results. Since some formats expand to 0 bytes, it is
wise to set '*S' to a nonzero value beforehand to distinguish between
failure and an empty string. This implementation does not support 's'
being NULL, nor overlapping 's' and 'format'.
'strftime' requires no supporting OS subroutines.
*Bugs* hard-coding the "C" locale settings.
SEE ALSO
strftime is part of the libc:_(libc)._the_ansi_c_library. library.
The full documentation for libc:_(libc)._the_ansi_c_library. is main‐
tained as a Texinfo manual. If info and
libc:_(libc)._the_ansi_c_library. are properly installed at your site,
the command
info libc:_(libc)._the_ansi_c_library.
will give you access to the complete manual.
NEWLIB March 2015 STRFTIME(3)
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* Re: strftime man page is garbled
2015-06-04 5:32 ` Marco Atzeri
@ 2015-06-04 5:46 ` Achim Gratz
2015-06-04 6:27 ` Marco Atzeri
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From: Achim Gratz @ 2015-06-04 5:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin
Marco Atzeri writes:
> Works fine for me, I have a complete man page
> see attached.
I think that's exactly what Wayne was talking about:
> DESCRIPTION
> into a null-terminated string, starting at S and occupying no more than
> MAXSIZE characters.
The beginning of the sentence seems to be missing, although it looks
like a run-in from the NAME section could be intended. Also, if you
look at that manpage in a wide terminal you'll see that most paragraphs
have hard formatting, while some flow to the width of the terminal.
Both things are happening on other newlib manpages as well, so it's
probably either the source code for the manpages itself or man doesn't
deal with the slightly odd roff macros from newlib correctly.
Regards,
Achim.
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* Re: strftime man page is garbled
2015-06-04 5:46 ` Achim Gratz
@ 2015-06-04 6:27 ` Marco Atzeri
2015-06-04 13:11 ` Nellis, Kenneth
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From: Marco Atzeri @ 2015-06-04 6:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin
On 6/4/2015 7:46 AM, Achim Gratz wrote:
> Marco Atzeri writes:
>> Works fine for me, I have a complete man page
>> see attached.
>
> I think that's exactly what Wayne was talking about:
>
>> DESCRIPTION
>> into a null-terminated string, starting at S and occupying no more than
>> MAXSIZE characters.
>
> The beginning of the sentence seems to be missing, although it looks
> like a run-in from the NAME section could be intended. Also, if you
> look at that manpage in a wide terminal you'll see that most paragraphs
> have hard formatting, while some flow to the width of the terminal.
>
> Both things are happening on other newlib manpages as well, so it's
> probably either the source code for the manpages itself or man doesn't
> deal with the slightly odd roff macros from newlib correctly.
>
>
> Regards,
> Achim.
>
you are right.
The man page seems very simple
--------------------------------------------------
.SH DESCRIPTION
'strftime' converts a 'struct tm' representation of the time (at TIMP)
into a null-terminated string, starting at S and occupying no more than
MAXSIZE characters.
--------------------------------------------------
It looks a man-db issue, it misinterprets the ' at the begin
of the phrase.
Adding a single space before works fine.
DESCRIPTION
'strftime' converts a 'struct tm' representation of the time (at TIMP)
into a null-terminated string, starting at S and occupying no more than
MAXSIZE characters.
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* RE: strftime man page is garbled
2015-06-04 6:27 ` Marco Atzeri
@ 2015-06-04 13:11 ` Nellis, Kenneth
2015-06-04 14:34 ` Jon TURNEY
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From: Nellis, Kenneth @ 2015-06-04 13:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin
From: Marco Atzeri
> <snip>
> It looks a man-db issue, it misinterprets the ' at the begin
> of the phrase.
>
> Adding a single space before works fine.
Perhaps preferred would be to highlight the name with .B:
$ diff -u before after
--- before 2015-06-04 08:37:08.693623000 -0400
+++ after 2015-06-04 08:47:17.078420500 -0400
@@ -10,7 +10,8 @@
const struct tm *restrict TIMP);
.SH DESCRIPTION
-'strftime' converts a 'struct tm' representation of the time (at TIMP)
+.B strftime
+converts a 'struct tm' representation of the time (at TIMP)
into a null-terminated string, starting at S and occupying no more than
MAXSIZE characters.
$
--Ken Nellis
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* Re: strftime man page is garbled
2015-06-04 13:11 ` Nellis, Kenneth
@ 2015-06-04 14:34 ` Jon TURNEY
2015-06-04 14:50 ` Eric Blake
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From: Jon TURNEY @ 2015-06-04 14:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin
On 04/06/2015 14:09, Nellis, Kenneth wrote:
> From: Marco Atzeri
>> <snip>
>> It looks a man-db issue, it misinterprets the ' at the begin
>> of the phrase.
>>
>> Adding a single space before works fine.
>
> Perhaps preferred would be to highlight the name with .B:
>
> $ diff -u before after
> --- before 2015-06-04 08:37:08.693623000 -0400
> +++ after 2015-06-04 08:47:17.078420500 -0400
> @@ -10,7 +10,8 @@
> const struct tm *restrict TIMP);
>
> .SH DESCRIPTION
> -'strftime' converts a 'struct tm' representation of the time (at TIMP)
> +.B strftime
> +converts a 'struct tm' representation of the time (at TIMP)
> into a null-terminated string, starting at S and occupying no more than
> MAXSIZE characters.
>
It might well be that starting a line with ' is not valid troff markup.
Thanks for the patch.
Unfortunately, the manpages in cygwin-doc are automatically generated
from the newlib .info pages by a perl script (See newlibinfo2man.pl in [1])
I'm not sure if these man pages are much use now that we have
man-pages-posix
[1]
https://github.com/jon-turney/cygwin/commit/f957adfea38022bd3ab076ca77871b53be0ef654
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* Re: strftime man page is garbled
2015-06-04 14:34 ` Jon TURNEY
@ 2015-06-04 14:50 ` Eric Blake
2015-06-05 12:26 ` Jon TURNEY
2015-06-04 15:03 ` Marco Atzeri
2015-06-04 15:43 ` Nellis, Kenneth
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From: Eric Blake @ 2015-06-04 14:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin
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On 06/04/2015 08:34 AM, Jon TURNEY wrote:
> Unfortunately, the manpages in cygwin-doc are automatically generated
> from the newlib .info pages by a perl script (See newlibinfo2man.pl in [1])
>
> I'm not sure if these man pages are much use now that we have
> man-pages-posix
GNU/Linux systems have two sections: 'man 3' for system writeup, and
'man 3p' for POSIX pages. This is useful, because in many instances, the
system writeup has more details about Linux-specific extensions, while
the 3p page is more useful for limiting usage to just portable aspects.
Having both sets shouldn't hurt, if we have a way to easily open from
either set.
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* Re: strftime man page is garbled
2015-06-04 14:34 ` Jon TURNEY
2015-06-04 14:50 ` Eric Blake
@ 2015-06-04 15:03 ` Marco Atzeri
2015-06-04 15:43 ` Nellis, Kenneth
2 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Marco Atzeri @ 2015-06-04 15:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin
On 6/4/2015 4:34 PM, Jon TURNEY wrote:
> On 04/06/2015 14:09, Nellis, Kenneth wrote:
>> From: Marco Atzeri
>
> It might well be that starting a line with ' is not valid troff markup.
You are right
http://www.gnu.org/software/groff/manual/html_node/Basics.html#Basics
"Not all input lines are text to be formatted. Some input lines are
requests that describe how to format the text. Requests always have a
period (â.â) or an apostrophe (â'â) as the first character of the input
line. "
I guess we need to patch upstream...
> Unfortunately, the manpages in cygwin-doc are automatically generated
> from the newlib .info pages by a perl script (See newlibinfo2man.pl in [1])
or check the script
>
> I'm not sure if these man pages are much use now that we have
> man-pages-posix
> [1] https://github.com/jon-turney/cygwin/commit/f957adfea38022bd3ab076ca77871b53be0ef654
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* RE: strftime man page is garbled
2015-06-04 14:34 ` Jon TURNEY
2015-06-04 14:50 ` Eric Blake
2015-06-04 15:03 ` Marco Atzeri
@ 2015-06-04 15:43 ` Nellis, Kenneth
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From: Nellis, Kenneth @ 2015-06-04 15:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin
From: Jon TURNEY
> <snip>
> I'm not sure if these man pages are much use now that we have
> man-pages-posix
It seems the posix pages themselves disagree:
==============8<=============
STRFTIME(3P) POSIX Programmer's Manual STRFTIME(3P)
PROLOG
This manual page is part of the POSIX Programmer's Manual. The Cygwin
implementation of this interface may differ (consult the corresponding
Cygwin manual page for details of Cygwin behavior), or the interface
may not be implemented on Cygwin.
NAME
strftime, strftime_l — convert date and time to a string
==============>8=============
Indeed Cygwin does not provide the strftime_l function, so the Cygwin pages
do matter.
--Ken Nellis
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* Re: strftime man page is garbled
2015-06-04 1:18 strftime man page is garbled Wayne Pollock
2015-06-04 5:32 ` Marco Atzeri
@ 2015-06-05 11:56 ` Jon TURNEY
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From: Jon TURNEY @ 2015-06-05 11:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Wayne Pollock, cygwin
On 04/06/2015 02:18, Wayne Pollock wrote:
> The description section of the strftime man page is
> garbled. The first paragraph shows as this:
>
> =============================
>
> into a null-terminated string, starting at S and occupying no more than
> MAXSIZE characters.
>
> You control the format of the output using the string at FORMAT.
> literally into the formatted string, and
> time conversion specifications. Time conversion specifications are two- and
> three-character sequences beginâ
> ning with ''%'' (use ''%%'' to include a percent sign in the output). Each
> defined conversion specification
> selects only the specified field(s) of calendar time data from '*TIMP', and
> converts it to a string in one of
> the following ways:
>
> ============================
>
> In addition, none of the option letters show, only the
> option descriptions. The info node at
> "info libc timefns strftime" appears to be fine.
>
> I have cygwin-doc version 1.7.35-1.
> (I have a locale of C.UTF-8, if it matters.)
Thanks for reporting this issue.
I've uploaded a new cygwin-doc-2.0.3-1 package.
I've tweaked the script which generates these man pages from the newlib
.info files so it better handles lines starting with a single-quote, and
also fixing the mess which was being made of the SEE ALSO section.
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* Re: strftime man page is garbled
2015-06-04 14:50 ` Eric Blake
@ 2015-06-05 12:26 ` Jon TURNEY
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From: Jon TURNEY @ 2015-06-05 12:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin
On 04/06/2015 15:50, Eric Blake wrote:
> On 06/04/2015 08:34 AM, Jon TURNEY wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately, the manpages in cygwin-doc are automatically generated
>> from the newlib .info pages by a perl script (See newlibinfo2man.pl in [1])
>>
>> I'm not sure if these man pages are much use now that we have
>> man-pages-posix
>
> GNU/Linux systems have two sections: 'man 3' for system writeup, and
> 'man 3p' for POSIX pages. This is useful, because in many instances, the
> system writeup has more details about Linux-specific extensions, while
> the 3p page is more useful for limiting usage to just portable aspects.
> Having both sets shouldn't hurt, if we have a way to easily open from
> either set.
Ok.
I don't think the approach of trying to convert the .info is ever going
to lead to particularly good results, though. Perhaps this would be
better implemented as part of newlib, operating on the .texinfo output
of, or as part of makedoc.
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