From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 104052 invoked by alias); 27 Oct 2016 14:52:59 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Received: (qmail 104031 invoked by uid 89); 27 Oct 2016 14:52:58 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=1.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,BODY_8BITS,FREEMAIL_FROM,GARBLED_BODY,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.3.2 spammy=wishes, H*MI:sk:1301901, H*f:sk:1301901, H*i:sk:1301901 X-HELO: forward1h.cmail.yandex.net Received: from forward1h.cmail.yandex.net (HELO forward1h.cmail.yandex.net) (87.250.230.16) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with ESMTP; Thu, 27 Oct 2016 14:52:52 +0000 Received: from smtp1h.mail.yandex.net (smtp1h.mail.yandex.net [84.201.187.144]) by forward1h.cmail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 7CDE720E9F for ; Thu, 27 Oct 2016 17:52:50 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp1h.mail.yandex.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1h.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 6155B8C0DED for ; Thu, 27 Oct 2016 17:52:49 +0300 (MSK) Received: by smtp1h.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id 1znSefbSXQ-qnPuFrU8; Thu, 27 Oct 2016 17:52:49 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) Authentication-Results: smtp1h.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.ru X-Yandex-Suid-Status: 1 0 Subject: Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux starts to compete with Cygwin? To: cygwin@cygwin.com References: <975bad9f-792c-4be5-ac2a-70c9bbe7efd4@yandex.ru> <1301901761.20161027162200@yandex.ru> From: Evgeny Grin Openpgp: id=289FE99E138CF6D473A3F0CFBF7AC4A5EAC2BAF4 Message-ID: <0b3de073-1be5-248b-19b3-26827947607e@yandex.ru> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 15:32:00 -0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1301901761.20161027162200@yandex.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-IsSubscribed: yes X-SW-Source: 2016-10/txt/msg00282.txt.bz2 On 27.10.2016 16:22, Andrey Repin wrote: > Greetings, Evgeny Grin! Privet, Андрей! >> With latest Window Insider preview it's possible to run Linux command >> from cmd, Windows commands from bash and even use input-output redirects! >> https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/wsl/2016/10/19/windows-and-ubuntu-interoperability/ >> Seems that WSL also automatically translate \r\n<->\n. > > Which will break a lot of tools not expecting this kind oh "help". A lot of? I don't know many... correction.. any GNU/Linux tools that works badly with \n newlines. >> Is Cygwin still better for something? > > Did they fixed the user mappings? I don't know as I didn't have any problem with it. >> I understand that WSL and Cygwin are completely different approaches, >> but from user perspective both are kind of sets of GNU/Linux commands >> and both are using some intermediate layer (cygwin1.dll or LXSS). > > WSL requires Windows 10. End of story. Do you mean, that Windows itself is a problem? Or version 10 of Windows is a problem? Anyway, all Windows users will use Windows 10 (or successors) sooner or later. So it's only the beginning of the story. -- Best Wishes, Evgeny -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple