From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 99543 invoked by alias); 4 Jun 2018 20:27:07 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Received: (qmail 97169 invoked by uid 89); 4 Jun 2018 20:27:05 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 spammy=HX-Envelope-From:prvs, H*r:msg, H*r:PRO, H*r:MDaemon X-HELO: sequoia-grove.secure-endpoints.com Received: from sequoia-grove.ad.secure-endpoints.com (HELO sequoia-grove.secure-endpoints.com) (208.125.0.235) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with ESMTP; Mon, 04 Jun 2018 20:27:04 +0000 X-MDAV-Result: clean X-MDAV-Processed: sequoia-grove.secure-endpoints.com, Mon, 04 Jun 2018 16:27:02 -0400 X-Spam-Processed: sequoia-grove.secure-endpoints.com, Mon, 04 Jun 2018 16:27:01 -0400 X-Spam-Report: Received: from [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:f77:698d:c14f:895c:8b99] by secure-endpoints.com (IPv6:2001:470:1f07:f77:28d9:68fb:855d:c2a5) (MDaemon PRO v18.0.1) with ESMTPSA id md50001628631.msg; Mon, 04 Jun 2018 16:27:00 -0400 VBR-Info: md=secure-endpoints.com; mc=all; mv=vbr.emailcertification.org; X-MDRemoteIP: 2001:470:1f07:f77:698d:c14f:895c:8b99 X-MDHelo: [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:f77:698d:c14f:895c:8b99] X-MDArrival-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2018 16:27:00 -0400 X-Return-Path: prvs=1693e3a33f=jaltman@secure-endpoints.com X-Envelope-From: jaltman@secure-endpoints.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: cygwin@cygwin.com X-CAV-Result: clean Subject: Re: My delayed complaint about spam on this list To: cygwin@cygwin.com References: <2C.3A.16218.947651B5@momentum1-mta3> <6962864c-4426-6a65-e9c5-ec540a2a5738@gmail.com> <38435875-e815-1676-ef42-223f9599ccfa@farance.com> From: Jeffrey Altman Openpgp: id=FA444AF197F449B24CF3E699F77A735592B69A04; url=https://pgp.mit.edu Message-ID: <105651ef-fd15-5c6b-45f7-ede8c23a0ca2@secure-endpoints.com> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2018 20:27:00 -0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <38435875-e815-1676-ef42-223f9599ccfa@farance.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="------------ms000603050905010105060600" X-SW-Source: 2018-06/txt/msg00021.txt.bz2 --------------ms000603050905010105060600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-length: 1117 On 6/4/2018 4:13 PM, Frank Farance wrote: > Second, as a mailing list admin myself, at some time we're going to have > to deal with spam as some of the members E-mail systems will start > tagging normal cygwin stuff as spam, which is the kind of stuff members > don't have control over in medium-to-large organizations.=C2=A0=20 My mail servers regularly categorize cygwin at cygwin.com mail as spam. And then there is all of the mail that simply gets rejected because of DMARC policies applied by the sender's domain. > (1) getting rid of spam by restricting senders to members of the list > (which, as you state, might lose people like you) >=20 > versus >=20 > (2) reducing spam for the 1500 members on the list (yet still lose you > because you need to become a member of the list to see the responses > from others), There are other alternatives. I'm a member of a few mailing lists that accept e-mails from non-list members but only after the non-list member successfully accesses a URL that is mailed to the sender's address. Would something like that be possible for the cygwin lists? 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