* Telnet in latest Cygwin @ 2013-08-07 21:19 Andy Davidson 2013-08-07 21:37 ` Larry Hall (Cygwin) 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Andy Davidson @ 2013-08-07 21:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin Hi, I have the latest Cygwin, setup is v2.819 (64 bit). I want to install telnet but the inetutils package isn't in the installer any more. It doesn't seem to be in the last version I installed around a month ago. Any clues ? Andy -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Telnet in latest Cygwin 2013-08-07 21:19 Telnet in latest Cygwin Andy Davidson @ 2013-08-07 21:37 ` Larry Hall (Cygwin) 2013-08-08 7:09 ` Corinna Vinschen 2014-01-25 12:15 ` zeev 0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Larry Hall (Cygwin) @ 2013-08-07 21:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin On 8/7/2013 5:18 PM, Andy Davidson wrote: > > Hi, > > I have the latest Cygwin, setup is v2.819 (64 bit). I want to install > telnet but the inetutils package isn't in the installer any more. It > doesn't seem to be in the last version I installed around a month ago. > Any clues ? <http://cygwin.com/cgi-bin2/package-grep.cgi?grep=bin%2Ftelnet.exe> The package still exists and 'telnet' is in there. Try a different mirror if the one you're using isn't showing the package. -- Larry _____________________________________________________________________ A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Telnet in latest Cygwin 2013-08-07 21:37 ` Larry Hall (Cygwin) @ 2013-08-08 7:09 ` Corinna Vinschen 2013-08-08 11:20 ` Andrey Repin 2013-10-27 20:45 ` Ralph Siegler 2014-01-25 12:15 ` zeev 1 sibling, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Corinna Vinschen @ 2013-08-08 7:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin On Aug 7 17:36, Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote: > On 8/7/2013 5:18 PM, Andy Davidson wrote: > > > >Hi, > > > >I have the latest Cygwin, setup is v2.819 (64 bit). I want to install > >telnet but the inetutils package isn't in the installer any more. It > >doesn't seem to be in the last version I installed around a month ago. > >Any clues ? > > <http://cygwin.com/cgi-bin2/package-grep.cgi?grep=bin%2Ftelnet.exe> > > The package still exists and 'telnet' is in there. Try a different > mirror if the one you're using isn't showing the package. Andy was asking about 64 bit. Inetutils hasn't been ported to 64 bit Cygwin yet, that's why it's missing. I'd suggest to use ssh instead. Telnet is inherently unsecure and ssh is a wonderful replacement. Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Maintainer cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Red Hat -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Telnet in latest Cygwin 2013-08-08 7:09 ` Corinna Vinschen @ 2013-08-08 11:20 ` Andrey Repin 2013-08-08 18:30 ` Warren Young 2013-10-27 20:45 ` Ralph Siegler 1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Andrey Repin @ 2013-08-08 11:20 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Corinna Vinschen Greetings, Corinna Vinschen! > On Aug 7 17:36, Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote: >> On 8/7/2013 5:18 PM, Andy Davidson wrote: >> > >> >Hi, >> > >> >I have the latest Cygwin, setup is v2.819 (64 bit). I want to install >> >telnet but the inetutils package isn't in the installer any more. It >> >doesn't seem to be in the last version I installed around a month ago. >> >Any clues ? >> >> <http://cygwin.com/cgi-bin2/package-grep.cgi?grep=bin%2Ftelnet.exe> >> >> The package still exists and 'telnet' is in there. Try a different >> mirror if the one you're using isn't showing the package. > Andy was asking about 64 bit. Inetutils hasn't been ported to 64 bit > Cygwin yet, that's why it's missing. I'd suggest to use ssh instead. > Telnet is inherently unsecure and ssh is a wonderful replacement. Unfortunately, it doesn't work where you explicitly need to use telnet. F.e. to connect to PON terminals. Though, I fail to see, how Cygwin telnet is different from, say PuTTY. Or native Windows telnet. -- WBR, Andrey Repin (anrdaemon@freemail.ru) 08.08.2013, <14:57> Sorry for my terrible english... -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Telnet in latest Cygwin 2013-08-08 11:20 ` Andrey Repin @ 2013-08-08 18:30 ` Warren Young 2013-08-09 14:42 ` Paul Allen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Warren Young @ 2013-08-08 18:30 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andrey Repin On 8/8/2013 05:08, Andrey Repin wrote: > > Though, I fail to see, how Cygwin telnet is different from, say PuTTY. Or > native Windows telnet. Windows 8 doesn't come with telnet.exe installed by default, and when you install it from Programs and Features, it's invisible to Cygwin 32, apparently due to the SxS madness. Cygwin 64 *does* see it, but attempting to run it just drops you right back at a prompt, immediately. Even if it did run, wouldn't things like Ctrl-] break due to the problems Cygwin currently has running interactive native console programs? Windows' telnet.exe doesn't even run particularly well within cmd.exe. Telnetting to a local web server here, it didn't do local echo properly, so I couldn't see whether I'd typed "GET / HTTP1.0" correctly. (I had Cygwin telnet.exe renamed to cygtelnet.exe during this time, to ensure I wasn't picking it up by accident.) -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Telnet in latest Cygwin 2013-08-08 18:30 ` Warren Young @ 2013-08-09 14:42 ` Paul Allen 0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Paul Allen @ 2013-08-09 14:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Warren Young wrote: > On 8/8/2013 05:08, Andrey Repin wrote: >> >> >> Though, I fail to see, how Cygwin telnet is different from, say PuTTY. Or >> native Windows telnet. > > > Windows 8 doesn't come with telnet.exe installed by default, and when you install it from > Programs and Features, it's invisible to Cygwin 32, apparently due to the SxS madness. Have you tried sysnative in case installing telnet gives you a 32-bit version as well as a 64-bit one? > Windows' telnet.exe doesn't even run particularly well within cmd.exe. Telnetting to a local web > server here, it didn't do local echo properly, so I couldn't see whether I'd typed "GET / > HTTP1.0" correctly. Different versions of Windows have come with one of two telnets. Early and late versions came with the white-on-black, no-local-echo you have. The others came with black-on-white, with-local-echo, window-closes-when-connection-closes. IIRC, the one that closed when the connection closed was dropped from Windows prior to HTTP persistent connections being widely supported, so was never useful for diagnosing HTTP. Basically, Windows telnet (both versions) is proof that MIC. Microsoft Is Crap. -- Paul -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Telnet in latest Cygwin 2013-08-08 7:09 ` Corinna Vinschen 2013-08-08 11:20 ` Andrey Repin @ 2013-10-27 20:45 ` Ralph Siegler 2013-10-28 14:03 ` Robert Klemme 1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Ralph Siegler @ 2013-10-27 20:45 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin Corinna Vinschen <corinna-cygwin <at> cygwin.com> writes: I'd suggest to use ssh instead. > Telnet is inherently unsecure and ssh is a wonderful replacement. > > Corinna > but telnet is an invaluable tool for command line troubleshooting tcp network connectivity issues to SMTP, HTTP and other services by manually typing the protocol commands into the server. ssh can't do that -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Telnet in latest Cygwin 2013-10-27 20:45 ` Ralph Siegler @ 2013-10-28 14:03 ` Robert Klemme 0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Robert Klemme @ 2013-10-28 14:03 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Ralph Siegler wrote: > Corinna Vinschen writes: > > I'd suggest to use ssh instead. >> Telnet is inherently unsecure and ssh is a wonderful replacement. > but telnet is an invaluable tool for command line troubleshooting tcp > network connectivity issues to SMTP, HTTP and other services by manually > typing the protocol commands into the server. ssh can't do that There's also netcat (nc). http://cygwin.com/cgi-bin2/package-cat.cgi?file=x86_64%2Fnc%2Fnc-1.107-4&grep=%2Fnc.exe Cheers robert -- remember.guy do |as, often| as.you_can - without end http://blog.rubybestpractices.com/ -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Telnet in latest Cygwin 2013-08-07 21:37 ` Larry Hall (Cygwin) 2013-08-08 7:09 ` Corinna Vinschen @ 2014-01-25 12:15 ` zeev 2014-01-25 19:03 ` Christopher Faylor 1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: zeev @ 2014-01-25 12:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin You can use the 'nc' (aka netcat) instead of telnet nc localhost 80 From a cygwin terminal it will give an equivalent result to 'telnet localhost 80', and far better than Microsoft's #$&%#*%&$# telnet Search for 'nc' in the cygwin installation. good luck -- View this message in context: http://cygwin.1069669.n5.nabble.com/Telnet-in-latest-Cygwin-tp101753p105720.html Sent from the Cygwin list mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Telnet in latest Cygwin 2014-01-25 12:15 ` zeev @ 2014-01-25 19:03 ` Christopher Faylor 0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Christopher Faylor @ 2014-01-25 19:03 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 04:15:17AM -0800, zeev wrote: >You can use the 'nc' (aka netcat) instead of telnet > >nc localhost 80 > From a cygwin terminal it will give an equivalent result to 'telnet >localhost 80', and far better than Microsoft's #$&%#*%&$# telnet > >Search for 'nc' in the cygwin installation. > >good luck Thanks for helping but you're responding to a message from October. Please don't resurrect old discussions. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
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