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From: Mick Pearson <mick.pearson@wildblue.net>
To: cygwin <cygwin@cygwin.com>
Subject: Re: XWin can't hold OpenGL picture, has WS_DISABLED and WS_EX_TRANSPARENT styles?
Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2019 09:49:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1603999286.4785804.1573292952544.JavaMail.zimbra@wildblue.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <345212924.4774581.1573291267579.JavaMail.zimbra@wildblue.net>

P.S. Sorry to add, the WM_ERASEBKGND message occurred to me, or setting the 
class-background to the "null" brush is a likely culprit. It is behaving like
a front-buffered old-fashioned application somewhat. Clipping and own-DC style 
should prevent damage, but I don't know, something seems to be responding to 
PAINT like events, that don't make sense for OpenGL.

Below is line formatted version of the old text. I have to do this manually for
new text, but the > quoted text is already hard-wrapped.

> XWin has never had a permanent picture with OpenGL. Any movement "damages" all
> windows. I know I've looked at it before, but I checked its window/class styles
> with MS's Spy++ tool today. The normal styles that govern clipping and
> permanence look fine, but it has some weird styles that normally for disabled
> and transparent windows that I wonder are the cause for its abnormal behavior
> in this regard. No OpenGL apps that just draw only OpenGL on a window have
> XWin's problem.
> 
> To be brief, it has these unnatural window-styles in this mail's subject line.
> Other than that, I think it may use Direct3D instead of OpenGL, but normally
> drawing OpenGL or Direct3D onto plain windows doesn't clobber other windows. I
> mean, you have to work hard to make it do something like that.
> 
> A second, unrelated, oddity is the window decorations are sometimes classic
> style, and sometimes current style. It's very odd. It's random in the same
> session. The windows seem to undergo a transition from classic to current, but
> get stuck in classic sometimes. Maybe they are using the old "animated" show
> functions that didn't survive the version of Windows that introduced them.
> 
> Niggling things like this could be fixed. But I don't know how many people use
> Cygwin. I've used it a lot over the years myself, to do development work. XWin
> is the most stable X server. Others don't really get close. But it's kind of
> too comfortable with its crumminess too. Not that I'm going to shove my work
> aside to try to remedy it myself.
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-09  9:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-09  9:21 Mick Pearson
2019-11-09  9:49 ` Mick Pearson [this message]
2019-11-13  7:27   ` Mick Pearson
2019-11-16 17:03     ` Mick Pearson
2019-11-16 17:31       ` Brian Inglis
2019-11-22  6:57         ` Jon Turney
2019-11-11 20:58 ` L A Walsh

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