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* splitting this list ?
@ 1997-09-27  6:53 Michael Hirmke
  1997-09-27 16:36 ` Tibor Polgar
  1997-10-05 16:39 ` Winona Strater
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Michael Hirmke @ 1997-09-27  6:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: gnu-win32

Hi *,

just a thought - would anybody support splitting up this list into lets
say "installing", "programming" and "porting" lists ?

It seems, that more and more people use Cygnus' gcc and therefore
especially the installation issues will grow in number the next months.
We already see many questions regarding installation topics in here.

Second idea - it would be great, if anyone joining this list would get
a FAQ, which mentions the most common problems during installation and
configuration !

Any comments ?

Bye.
Michael.
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* splitting this list ?
  1997-09-27  6:53 splitting this list ? Michael Hirmke
@ 1997-09-27 16:36 ` Tibor Polgar
  1997-10-05 16:39 ` Winona Strater
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Tibor Polgar @ 1997-09-27 16:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michael Hirmke; +Cc: gnu-win32

 > Second idea - it would be great, if anyone joining this list would get
 > a FAQ, which mentions the most common problems during installation and
 > configuration !

Great idea.  At least no one will have an excuse that they didn't know about the 
FAQ.

Tibor
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* Re: splitting this list ?
  1997-09-27  6:53 splitting this list ? Michael Hirmke
  1997-09-27 16:36 ` Tibor Polgar
@ 1997-10-05 16:39 ` Winona Strater
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Winona Strater @ 1997-10-05 16:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michael Hirmke; +Cc: gnu-win32

> Hi *,
> 
> just a thought - would anybody support splitting up this list into lets
> say "installing", "programming" and "porting" lists ?

Maybe misc, programming and porting would be more applicable.  It would
be nice to have a choice "all" that put you on all of them though - only for
the very brave. ;)


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* Re: splitting this list ?
@ 1997-09-30  9:57 Earnie Boyd
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Earnie Boyd @ 1997-09-30  9:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mdevos, gnu-win32

>To: "Wouter Schaart" <wouters@te.xs4all.nl>, gnu-win32@cygnus.com
>From: "mdevos" <mdevos@cis.co.za>
>Subject: Re: splitting this list ?
>Date: Mon, 29 Sep 97 20:03:49 PDT
>

---snip---

>Thus saith the FAQ" set the gcc-exec-prefix environment to
>d:\cygnus\h-i386-cygwin32\lib\gcc-lib\"
>

Assuming you took the default paths:

GCC_EXEC_PREFIX=//d/gnuwin32/b18/H-i386-cywin32/lib/gcc-lib/

NOTE the use of the underscore and not the dash.  NOTE the use of the 
forward slash instead of the backslash. NOTE the use of //d for the 
drive letter.

>I feel really stupid because I don't know much about doing this.  Any
>suggestions?
>-

You have no need to feel stupid when you ask questions.  If you don't 
know what to ask then you can feel stupid.

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* Re: splitting this list ?
  1997-09-28  9:10 Wouter Schaart
@ 1997-09-30  8:19 ` mdevos
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: mdevos @ 1997-09-30  8:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Wouter Schaart, gnu-win32

Hi 

I'm new on this list and I thought I'd say hello

>  MH> Second idea - it would be great, if anyone joining this list would
get
>  MH> a FAQ, which mentions the most common problems during installation
and >  MH> configuration !
> 
>  MH> Any comments ? 

Yes.  I have gone through the FAQ with a fine toothed comb and have  more
or less managed to get through installation.  I'm really stuck though when
it comes to configuring my system.  (I'm not very clued up on Windows 95
which I only installed two days ago).

Thus saith the FAQ" set the gcc-exec-prefix environment to
d:\cygnus\h-i386-cygwin32\lib\gcc-lib\"

I feel really stupid because I don't know much about doing this.  Any
suggestions?
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* RE: splitting this list ?
@ 1997-09-29 21:17 Ernest Clayton Cordell, Jr.
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Ernest Clayton Cordell, Jr. @ 1997-09-29 21:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 'Earnie Boyd'; +Cc: 'gnu-win32@cygnus.com'

OK, I won't defer judgement then  .  .  .  
----------
From: 	Earnie Boyd
Sent: 	Monday, September 29, 1997 9:59 PM
To: 	gnu-win32@cygnus.com
Subject: 	RE: splitting this list ?



>From: "Ernest Clayton Cordell, Jr." <ErnieC@ix.netcom.com>
>To: "'Michael Hirmke'" <mh@mike.franken.de>
>Cc: "'gnu-win32@cygnus.com'" <gnu-win32@cygnus.com>
>Subject: RE: splitting this list ?
>Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 15:20:09 -0400
>
>I think your idea is good in concept, but since I'm not the one who has 
to 
>do the work, I defer judgement to those who more directly hold a stake 
in 
>maintaining this list.
>
>Rather than receiving a FAQ on joining, I would suggest a 'FAQ letter' 
that 
>explains that there are resources available to those who are using this 
>"environment" for
>Installation -- Inst URLs
>Builds -- make/compile/install URLs
>programming -- pertinent URLs
>ports -- some people are interested in "successful ports," others in 
>"details to port" (maybe Build/maybe Install)?
>
>but each FAQ really only pertains to the version; while I'm several 
>versions and releases behind, I still find the most recent FAQ useful 
by 
>virtue of the items it has included over time.  "Newbies" (in usage of 
>Cygwin tools, rather than in DP/whatever experience) may not realize 
that 
>the FAQ at "latest" may refer to problems/solutions that don't apply to 
>their particular version/release.
>
>I think it would help to mention such things in the subscription 
>confirmation message:  The caveat that people may be too busy to answer 
>questions or that 'you have asked a question that is already in a FAQ,' 
>endlessly clarified things for me.
>
>The group of inexperienced 'users' (rather than developers) who 
received 
>disks from SAMS publishing (or some such source) are really left 
without a 
>clue.  They need help, but I'm not sure this list is appropriate; since 
>SAMS publishing sends them to this list in the first place, maybe it 
would 
>be appropriate to send them back to the SAMS publishing page.
>
>Maybe it would help to include the topics "flame messages," "product 
>slurring," and just plain "venting."
>
>Ernie
>----------
>From: 	Michael Hirmke
>Sent: 	Saturday, September 27, 1997 8:33 AM
>To: 	gnu-win32@cygnus.com
>Subject: 	splitting this list ?
>
>Hi *,
>
>just a thought - would anybody support splitting up this list into lets
>say "installing", "programming" and "porting" lists ?
>
>It seems, that more and more people use Cygnus' gcc and therefore
>especially the installation issues will grow in number the next months.
>We already see many questions regarding installation topics in here.
>
>Second idea - it would be great, if anyone joining this list would get
>a FAQ, which mentions the most common problems during installation and
>configuration !
>
>Any comments ?
>
>Bye.
>Michael.
>--
>Michael Hirmke           | Telefon +49 (911) 557999
>Georg-Strobel-Strasse 81 | FAX     +49 (911) 557664
>90489 Nuernberg          | E-Mail  mailto:mh@mike.franken.de
>                         | WWW     http://minimike.franken.de/
>-

When I joined this list majordomo sent an acknowledgement note with 
comments as to where to find (the URL's) other information (README, FAQ, 
the mail listings).  So, what else should be added that people won't 
read?

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* RE: splitting this list ?
@ 1997-09-29 18:59 Earnie Boyd
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Earnie Boyd @ 1997-09-29 18:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: gnu-win32

>From: "Ernest Clayton Cordell, Jr." <ErnieC@ix.netcom.com>
>To: "'Michael Hirmke'" <mh@mike.franken.de>
>Cc: "'gnu-win32@cygnus.com'" <gnu-win32@cygnus.com>
>Subject: RE: splitting this list ?
>Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 15:20:09 -0400
>
>I think your idea is good in concept, but since I'm not the one who has 
to 
>do the work, I defer judgement to those who more directly hold a stake 
in 
>maintaining this list.
>
>Rather than receiving a FAQ on joining, I would suggest a 'FAQ letter' 
that 
>explains that there are resources available to those who are using this 
>"environment" for
>Installation -- Inst URLs
>Builds -- make/compile/install URLs
>programming -- pertinent URLs
>ports -- some people are interested in "successful ports," others in 
>"details to port" (maybe Build/maybe Install)?
>
>but each FAQ really only pertains to the version; while I'm several 
>versions and releases behind, I still find the most recent FAQ useful 
by 
>virtue of the items it has included over time.  "Newbies" (in usage of 
>Cygwin tools, rather than in DP/whatever experience) may not realize 
that 
>the FAQ at "latest" may refer to problems/solutions that don't apply to 
>their particular version/release.
>
>I think it would help to mention such things in the subscription 
>confirmation message:  The caveat that people may be too busy to answer 
>questions or that 'you have asked a question that is already in a FAQ,' 
>endlessly clarified things for me.
>
>The group of inexperienced 'users' (rather than developers) who 
received 
>disks from SAMS publishing (or some such source) are really left 
without a 
>clue.  They need help, but I'm not sure this list is appropriate; since 
>SAMS publishing sends them to this list in the first place, maybe it 
would 
>be appropriate to send them back to the SAMS publishing page.
>
>Maybe it would help to include the topics "flame messages," "product 
>slurring," and just plain "venting."
>
>Ernie
>----------
>From: 	Michael Hirmke
>Sent: 	Saturday, September 27, 1997 8:33 AM
>To: 	gnu-win32@cygnus.com
>Subject: 	splitting this list ?
>
>Hi *,
>
>just a thought - would anybody support splitting up this list into lets
>say "installing", "programming" and "porting" lists ?
>
>It seems, that more and more people use Cygnus' gcc and therefore
>especially the installation issues will grow in number the next months.
>We already see many questions regarding installation topics in here.
>
>Second idea - it would be great, if anyone joining this list would get
>a FAQ, which mentions the most common problems during installation and
>configuration !
>
>Any comments ?
>
>Bye.
>Michael.
>--
>Michael Hirmke           | Telefon +49 (911) 557999
>Georg-Strobel-Strasse 81 | FAX     +49 (911) 557664
>90489 Nuernberg          | E-Mail  mailto:mh@mike.franken.de
>                         | WWW     http://minimike.franken.de/
>-

When I joined this list majordomo sent an acknowledgement note with 
comments as to where to find (the URL's) other information (README, FAQ, 
the mail listings).  So, what else should be added that people won't 
read?

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* splitting this list ?
@ 1997-09-28  9:10 Wouter Schaart
  1997-09-30  8:19 ` mdevos
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Wouter Schaart @ 1997-09-28  9:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: gnu-win32

Wruff Michael,

27 Sep 97, Michael Hirmke writes to Wouter Schaart:

 MH> Second idea - it would be great, if anyone joining this list would get
 MH> a FAQ, which mentions the most common problems during installation and
 MH> configuration !

 MH> Any comments ?

     Only on the FAQ, I think that would be a brilliant idea. It should cover
at least everything from downloading the required files all the way up to
having programmed the first dialog window.

Happy hunting          |She brought the night and by the night was brought
(WouterS@Te.Xs4all.NL) |We are but children of the powers she had set free
(Wouter Schaart)       |           Strange are the ways of the wolfhearted.
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* RE: splitting this list ?
@ 1997-09-27 12:21 Ernest Clayton Cordell, Jr.
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Ernest Clayton Cordell, Jr. @ 1997-09-27 12:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 'Michael Hirmke'; +Cc: 'gnu-win32@cygnus.com'

I think your idea is good in concept, but since I'm not the one who has to 
do the work, I defer judgement to those who more directly hold a stake in 
maintaining this list.

Rather than receiving a FAQ on joining, I would suggest a 'FAQ letter' that 
explains that there are resources available to those who are using this 
"environment" for
Installation -- Inst URLs
Builds -- make/compile/install URLs
programming -- pertinent URLs
ports -- some people are interested in "successful ports," others in 
"details to port" (maybe Build/maybe Install)?

but each FAQ really only pertains to the version; while I'm several 
versions and releases behind, I still find the most recent FAQ useful by 
virtue of the items it has included over time.  "Newbies" (in usage of 
Cygwin tools, rather than in DP/whatever experience) may not realize that 
the FAQ at "latest" may refer to problems/solutions that don't apply to 
their particular version/release.

I think it would help to mention such things in the subscription 
confirmation message:  The caveat that people may be too busy to answer 
questions or that 'you have asked a question that is already in a FAQ,' 
endlessly clarified things for me.

The group of inexperienced 'users' (rather than developers) who received 
disks from SAMS publishing (or some such source) are really left without a 
clue.  They need help, but I'm not sure this list is appropriate; since 
SAMS publishing sends them to this list in the first place, maybe it would 
be appropriate to send them back to the SAMS publishing page.

Maybe it would help to include the topics "flame messages," "product 
slurring," and just plain "venting."

Ernie
----------
From: 	Michael Hirmke
Sent: 	Saturday, September 27, 1997 8:33 AM
To: 	gnu-win32@cygnus.com
Subject: 	splitting this list ?

Hi *,

just a thought - would anybody support splitting up this list into lets
say "installing", "programming" and "porting" lists ?

It seems, that more and more people use Cygnus' gcc and therefore
especially the installation issues will grow in number the next months.
We already see many questions regarding installation topics in here.

Second idea - it would be great, if anyone joining this list would get
a FAQ, which mentions the most common problems during installation and
configuration !

Any comments ?

Bye.
Michael.
--
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Georg-Strobel-Strasse 81 | FAX     +49 (911) 557664
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