ezmlm response (fwd)

ezmlm response (fwd)

[Fredrik Radesand]

Get me off this stupid list please.
I will bounce every single message back onto this adress.

The unsubscribe instructions doesn't work.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: 14 Feb 1999 17:39:47 -0000
From: cygwin-return-@sourceware.cygnus.com
To: radesand@algonet.se
Subject: ezmlm response

Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com mailing list.

This is a generic help message. The message I received wasn't sent to
any of my command addresses.


--- Administrative commands for the cygwin list ---

I can handle administrative requests automatically. Please
DO NOT SEND THEM TO THE LIST ADDRESS! If you do, I will not
see them and other subscribers will be annoyed. Instead, send
your message to the correct command address:


To subscribe to the list, send a message to:
   <cygwin-subscribe@sourceware.cygnus.com>

To remove your address from the list, send a message to:
   <cygwin-unsubscribe@sourceware.cygnus.com>

Send mail to the following for info and FAQ for this list:
   <cygwin-info@sourceware.cygnus.com>
   <cygwin-faq@sourceware.cygnus.com>

Similar addresses exist for the digest list:
   <cygwin-digest-subscribe@sourceware.cygnus.com>
   <cygwin-digest-unsubscribe@sourceware.cygnus.com>

To get messages 123 through 145 (a maximum of 100 per request), mail:
   <cygwin-get.123_145@sourceware.cygnus.com>

To get an index with subject and author for messages 123-456 , mail:
   <cygwin-index.123_456@sourceware.cygnus.com>

They are always returned as sets of 100, max 2000 per request,
so you'll actually get 100-499.

To receive all messages with the same subject as message 12345,
send an empty message to:
   <cygwin-thread.12345@sourceware.cygnus.com>

The messages do not really need to be empty, but I will ignore
their content. Only the ADDRESS you send to is important.

You can start a subscription for an alternate address,
for example "john@host.domain", just add a hyphen and your
address (with '=' instead of '@') after the command word:
<cygwin-subscribe-john=host.domain@sourceware.cygnus.com>

To stop subscription for this address, mail:
<cygwin-unsubscribe-john=host.domain@sourceware.cygnus.com>

In both cases, I'll send a confirmation message to that address. When
you receive it, simply reply to it to complete your subscription.

If despite following these instructions, you do not get the
desired results, please contact my owner at
cygwin-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com. Please be patient, my owner is a
lot slower than I am ;-)

--- Enclosed is a copy of the request I received.

Return-Path: <radesand@algonet.se>
Received: (qmail 16135 invoked from network); 14 Feb 1999 17:39:46 -0000
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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 18:39:41 +0100 (MET)
From: Fredrik Radesand <radesand@algonet.se>
To: cygwin-help@sourceware.cygnus.com
Subject: Re: ezmlm response
In-Reply-To: <919013906.15947.ezmlm@sourceware.cygnus.com>
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Who is the moron administration this list?

On 14 Feb 1999 cygwin-help@sourceware.cygnus.com wrote:

> Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
> cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com mailing list.
> 
> Acknowledgment: The address
> 
>    radesand@algonet.se
> 
> was not on the cygwin mailing list when I received
> your request and is not a subscriber of this list.
> 
> If you unsubscribe, but continue to receive mail, you're subscribed
> under a different address than you currently use. Please look at the
> header for:
> 
> 'Return-Path: <cygwin-return-1234-user=host.dom@sourceware.cygnus.com>'
> 
> The unsubscribe address for this user would be:
> 'cygwin-unsubscribe-user=host.dom@sourceware.cygnus.com'.
> Just mail to that address, substituting user=host.dom for the real
> values, reply to the confirmation request, and you should receive a message
> that you're off the list.
> 
> For some mail programs, you need to make the headers visible to
> see the return path:
> 
> For Eudora 4.0, click on the "Blah blah ..." button.
> For PMMail, click on "Window->Show entire message/header". 
> 
> If this still doesn't work, I'm sorry to say that I can't help you.
> Please FORWARD a list message together with a note about what you're
> trying to achieve and a list of addresses that you might be subscribed
> under to my owner:
> 
>     cygwin-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com
> 
> who will take care of it. My owner is a little bit slower than I am, 
> so please be patient.
> 
> 
> --- Administrative commands for the cygwin list ---
> 
> I can handle administrative requests automatically. Please
> DO NOT SEND THEM TO THE LIST ADDRESS! If you do, I will not
> see them and other subscribers will be annoyed. Instead, send
> your message to the correct command address:
> 
> 
> To subscribe to the list, send a message to:
>    <cygwin-subscribe@sourceware.cygnus.com>
> 
> To remove your address from the list, send a message to:
>    <cygwin-unsubscribe@sourceware.cygnus.com>
> 
> Send mail to the following for info and FAQ for this list:
>    <cygwin-info@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>    <cygwin-faq@sourceware.cygnus.com>
> 
> Similar addresses exist for the digest list:
>    <cygwin-digest-subscribe@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>    <cygwin-digest-unsubscribe@sourceware.cygnus.com>
> 
> To get messages 123 through 145 (a maximum of 100 per request), mail:
>    <cygwin-get.123_145@sourceware.cygnus.com>
> 
> To get an index with subject and author for messages 123-456 , mail:
>    <cygwin-index.123_456@sourceware.cygnus.com>
> 
> They are always returned as sets of 100, max 2000 per request,
> so you'll actually get 100-499.
> 
> To receive all messages with the same subject as message 12345,
> send an empty message to:
>    <cygwin-thread.12345@sourceware.cygnus.com>
> 
> The messages do not really need to be empty, but I will ignore
> their content. Only the ADDRESS you send to is important.
> 
> You can start a subscription for an alternate address,
> for example "john@host.domain", just add a hyphen and your
> address (with '=' instead of '@') after the command word:
> <cygwin-subscribe-john=host.domain@sourceware.cygnus.com>
> 
> To stop subscription for this address, mail:
> <cygwin-unsubscribe-john=host.domain@sourceware.cygnus.com>
> 
> In both cases, I'll send a confirmation message to that address. When
> you receive it, simply reply to it to complete your subscription.
> 
> If despite following these instructions, you do not get the
> desired results, please contact my owner at
> cygwin-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com. Please be patient, my owner is a
> lot slower than I am ;-)
> 
> --- Enclosed is a copy of the request I received.
> 
> Return-Path: <radesand@algonet.se>
> Received: (qmail 15942 invoked from network); 14 Feb 1999 17:38:25 -0000
> Received: from angel.algonet.se (194.213.74.112)
>   by egcs.cygnus.com with SMTP; 14 Feb 1999 17:38:25 -0000
> Received: (qmail 14338 invoked from network); 14 Feb 1999 18:38:12 +0100
> Received: from kairos.algonet.se (194.213.74.18)
>   by angel.algonet.se with SMTP; 14 Feb 1999 18:38:12 +0100
> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 18:38:12 +0100 (MET)
> From: Fredrik Radesand <radesand@algonet.se>
> To: cygwin-uc.919013592.ghekneglankjcdpedgpi-radesand=algonet.se@sourceware.cygnus.com
> Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.10.9902141838060.3208-100000@kairos.algonet.se>
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
> 
> 
> 

Re: ezmlm response (fwd)

[DJ Delorie]

> Get me off this stupid list please.  I will bounce every single
> message back onto this adress.

Whenever you have a problem with the list subscription, complaining to
the people *on* the list won't do anything other than make them angry
at you.  If you've tried following the instructions, and it didn't
work, you need to follow the instructions more carefully:

  If despite following these instructions, you do not get the desired
  results, please contact my owner at
  cygwin-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com. Please be patient, my owner is a
  lot slower than I am ;-)

The owner happens to do this as part of is job, and as most of you are
aware, he works Monday through Friday, so getting help on the weekend
is going to be tricky.  Plus, tomorrow (Monday) is a holiday in this
country, so it may not be until Tuesday before he even reads your
request, assuming you sent him one.  You did send him one, right?

Making everyone mad at you will not get you off the list any faster.
Having patience will.

> Who is the moron administration this list?

By the way, the "moron" administering this list is a piece of
software.  I'm sorry if you couldn't figure this out by yourself.
Perhaps that's why you're having such a hard time talking to it.

DJ

Re: ezmlm response (fwd)

[Fredrik Radesand]

On Sun, 14 Feb 1999, DJ Delorie wrote:

Dear listpeople,

I wouldn't send this kind of message before trying to unsubscribe.
However I now found the problem why it didn't work. The problem was
that I do not get the messages from the list, I get them transparently
forwarded from another address. Considering the amount of mail I 
get each day I deled 95% only by judging of the subject & sender.

I apologize :o)

Hopefully I will manage to get off the list.


> 
> > Get me off this stupid list please.  I will bounce every single
> > message back onto this adress.
> 
> Whenever you have a problem with the list subscription, complaining to
> the people *on* the list won't do anything other than make them angry
> at you.  If you've tried following the instructions, and it didn't
> work, you need to follow the instructions more carefully:
> 
>   If despite following these instructions, you do not get the desired
>   results, please contact my owner at
>   cygwin-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com. Please be patient, my owner is a
>   lot slower than I am ;-)
> 
> The owner happens to do this as part of is job, and as most of you are
> aware, he works Monday through Friday, so getting help on the weekend
> is going to be tricky.  Plus, tomorrow (Monday) is a holiday in this
> country, so it may not be until Tuesday before he even reads your
> request, assuming you sent him one.  You did send him one, right?
> 
> Making everyone mad at you will not get you off the list any faster.
> Having patience will.> 
> > Who is the moron administration this list?
> 
> By the way, the "moron" administering this list is a piece of
> software.  I'm sorry if you couldn't figure this out by yourself.
> Perhaps that's why you're having such a hard time talking to it.

I understood that, but I assume there is someone responsible for 
the server. Thus responsible for any malfunctioning software. 
However I apologize now because I found the problem. 

Apparently my rude mail got me some quick help, as for example this email. 

Thank you :)

> 
> DJ
> 

Re: ezmlm response (fwd)

[DJ Delorie]

I hope nobody takes this to mean "rude mail gets help".  Polite mail
works just as well :-)

> Apparently my rude mail got me some quick help, as for example this email. 

ezmlm response (fwd)

[Fredrik Radesand]

Get me off this stupid list please.
I will bounce every single message back onto this adress.

The unsubscribe instructions doesn't work.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: 14 Feb 1999 17:39:47 -0000
From: cygwin-return-@sourceware.cygnus.com
To: radesand@algonet.se
Subject: ezmlm response

Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com mailing list.

This is a generic help message. The message I received wasn't sent to
any of my command addresses.


--- Administrative commands for the cygwin list ---

I can handle administrative requests automatically. Please
DO NOT SEND THEM TO THE LIST ADDRESS! If you do, I will not
see them and other subscribers will be annoyed. Instead, send
your message to the correct command address:


To subscribe to the list, send a message to:
   <cygwin-subscribe@sourceware.cygnus.com>

To remove your address from the list, send a message to:
   <cygwin-unsubscribe@sourceware.cygnus.com>

Send mail to the following for info and FAQ for this list:
   <cygwin-info@sourceware.cygnus.com>
   <cygwin-faq@sourceware.cygnus.com>

Similar addresses exist for the digest list:
   <cygwin-digest-subscribe@sourceware.cygnus.com>
   <cygwin-digest-unsubscribe@sourceware.cygnus.com>

To get messages 123 through 145 (a maximum of 100 per request), mail:
   <cygwin-get.123_145@sourceware.cygnus.com>

To get an index with subject and author for messages 123-456 , mail:
   <cygwin-index.123_456@sourceware.cygnus.com>

They are always returned as sets of 100, max 2000 per request,
so you'll actually get 100-499.

To receive all messages with the same subject as message 12345,
send an empty message to:
   <cygwin-thread.12345@sourceware.cygnus.com>

The messages do not really need to be empty, but I will ignore
their content. Only the ADDRESS you send to is important.

You can start a subscription for an alternate address,
for example "john@host.domain", just add a hyphen and your
address (with '=' instead of '@') after the command word:
<cygwin-subscribe-john=host.domain@sourceware.cygnus.com>

To stop subscription for this address, mail:
<cygwin-unsubscribe-john=host.domain@sourceware.cygnus.com>

In both cases, I'll send a confirmation message to that address. When
you receive it, simply reply to it to complete your subscription.

If despite following these instructions, you do not get the
desired results, please contact my owner at
cygwin-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com. Please be patient, my owner is a
lot slower than I am ;-)

--- Enclosed is a copy of the request I received.

Return-Path: <radesand@algonet.se>
Received: (qmail 16135 invoked from network); 14 Feb 1999 17:39:46 -0000
Received: from angel.algonet.se (194.213.74.112)
  by egcs.cygnus.com with SMTP; 14 Feb 1999 17:39:46 -0000
Received: (qmail 16719 invoked from network); 14 Feb 1999 18:39:41 +0100
Received: from kairos.algonet.se (194.213.74.18)
  by angel.algonet.se with SMTP; 14 Feb 1999 18:39:41 +0100
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 18:39:41 +0100 (MET)
From: Fredrik Radesand <radesand@algonet.se>
To: cygwin-help@sourceware.cygnus.com
Subject: Re: ezmlm response
In-Reply-To: <919013906.15947.ezmlm@sourceware.cygnus.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.10.9902141839110.3218-100000@kairos.algonet.se>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII


Who is the moron administration this list?

On 14 Feb 1999 cygwin-help@sourceware.cygnus.com wrote:

> Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
> cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com mailing list.
> 
> Acknowledgment: The address
> 
>    radesand@algonet.se
> 
> was not on the cygwin mailing list when I received
> your request and is not a subscriber of this list.
> 
> If you unsubscribe, but continue to receive mail, you're subscribed
> under a different address than you currently use. Please look at the
> header for:
> 
> 'Return-Path: <cygwin-return-1234-user=host.dom@sourceware.cygnus.com>'
> 
> The unsubscribe address for this user would be:
> 'cygwin-unsubscribe-user=host.dom@sourceware.cygnus.com'.
> Just mail to that address, substituting user=host.dom for the real
> values, reply to the confirmation request, and you should receive a message
> that you're off the list.
> 
> For some mail programs, you need to make the headers visible to
> see the return path:
> 
> For Eudora 4.0, click on the "Blah blah ..." button.
> For PMMail, click on "Window->Show entire message/header". 
> 
> If this still doesn't work, I'm sorry to say that I can't help you.
> Please FORWARD a list message together with a note about what you're
> trying to achieve and a list of addresses that you might be subscribed
> under to my owner:
> 
>     cygwin-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com
> 
> who will take care of it. My owner is a little bit slower than I am, 
> so please be patient.
> 
> 
> --- Administrative commands for the cygwin list ---
> 
> I can handle administrative requests automatically. Please
> DO NOT SEND THEM TO THE LIST ADDRESS! If you do, I will not
> see them and other subscribers will be annoyed. Instead, send
> your message to the correct command address:
> 
> 
> To subscribe to the list, send a message to:
>    <cygwin-subscribe@sourceware.cygnus.com>
> 
> To remove your address from the list, send a message to:
>    <cygwin-unsubscribe@sourceware.cygnus.com>
> 
> Send mail to the following for info and FAQ for this list:
>    <cygwin-info@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>    <cygwin-faq@sourceware.cygnus.com>
> 
> Similar addresses exist for the digest list:
>    <cygwin-digest-subscribe@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>    <cygwin-digest-unsubscribe@sourceware.cygnus.com>
> 
> To get messages 123 through 145 (a maximum of 100 per request), mail:
>    <cygwin-get.123_145@sourceware.cygnus.com>
> 
> To get an index with subject and author for messages 123-456 , mail:
>    <cygwin-index.123_456@sourceware.cygnus.com>
> 
> They are always returned as sets of 100, max 2000 per request,
> so you'll actually get 100-499.
> 
> To receive all messages with the same subject as message 12345,
> send an empty message to:
>    <cygwin-thread.12345@sourceware.cygnus.com>
> 
> The messages do not really need to be empty, but I will ignore
> their content. Only the ADDRESS you send to is important.
> 
> You can start a subscription for an alternate address,
> for example "john@host.domain", just add a hyphen and your
> address (with '=' instead of '@') after the command word:
> <cygwin-subscribe-john=host.domain@sourceware.cygnus.com>
> 
> To stop subscription for this address, mail:
> <cygwin-unsubscribe-john=host.domain@sourceware.cygnus.com>
> 
> In both cases, I'll send a confirmation message to that address. When
> you receive it, simply reply to it to complete your subscription.
> 
> If despite following these instructions, you do not get the
> desired results, please contact my owner at
> cygwin-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com. Please be patient, my owner is a
> lot slower than I am ;-)
> 
> --- Enclosed is a copy of the request I received.
> 
> Return-Path: <radesand@algonet.se>
> Received: (qmail 15942 invoked from network); 14 Feb 1999 17:38:25 -0000
> Received: from angel.algonet.se (194.213.74.112)
>   by egcs.cygnus.com with SMTP; 14 Feb 1999 17:38:25 -0000
> Received: (qmail 14338 invoked from network); 14 Feb 1999 18:38:12 +0100
> Received: from kairos.algonet.se (194.213.74.18)
>   by angel.algonet.se with SMTP; 14 Feb 1999 18:38:12 +0100
> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 18:38:12 +0100 (MET)
> From: Fredrik Radesand <radesand@algonet.se>
> To: cygwin-uc.919013592.ghekneglankjcdpedgpi-radesand=algonet.se@sourceware.cygnus.com
> Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.10.9902141838060.3208-100000@kairos.algonet.se>
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
> 
> 
> 

Re: ezmlm response (fwd)

[DJ Delorie]

> Get me off this stupid list please.  I will bounce every single
> message back onto this adress.

Whenever you have a problem with the list subscription, complaining to
the people *on* the list won't do anything other than make them angry
at you.  If you've tried following the instructions, and it didn't
work, you need to follow the instructions more carefully:

  If despite following these instructions, you do not get the desired
  results, please contact my owner at
  cygwin-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com. Please be patient, my owner is a
  lot slower than I am ;-)

The owner happens to do this as part of is job, and as most of you are
aware, he works Monday through Friday, so getting help on the weekend
is going to be tricky.  Plus, tomorrow (Monday) is a holiday in this
country, so it may not be until Tuesday before he even reads your
request, assuming you sent him one.  You did send him one, right?

Making everyone mad at you will not get you off the list any faster.
Having patience will.

> Who is the moron administration this list?

By the way, the "moron" administering this list is a piece of
software.  I'm sorry if you couldn't figure this out by yourself.
Perhaps that's why you're having such a hard time talking to it.

DJ

Re: ezmlm response (fwd)

[DJ Delorie]

I hope nobody takes this to mean "rude mail gets help".  Polite mail
works just as well :-)

> Apparently my rude mail got me some quick help, as for example this email. 

Re: ezmlm response (fwd)

[Fredrik Radesand]

On Sun, 14 Feb 1999, DJ Delorie wrote:

Dear listpeople,

I wouldn't send this kind of message before trying to unsubscribe.
However I now found the problem why it didn't work. The problem was
that I do not get the messages from the list, I get them transparently
forwarded from another address. Considering the amount of mail I 
get each day I deled 95% only by judging of the subject & sender.

I apologize :o)

Hopefully I will manage to get off the list.


> 
> > Get me off this stupid list please.  I will bounce every single
> > message back onto this adress.
> 
> Whenever you have a problem with the list subscription, complaining to
> the people *on* the list won't do anything other than make them angry
> at you.  If you've tried following the instructions, and it didn't
> work, you need to follow the instructions more carefully:
> 
>   If despite following these instructions, you do not get the desired
>   results, please contact my owner at
>   cygwin-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com. Please be patient, my owner is a
>   lot slower than I am ;-)
> 
> The owner happens to do this as part of is job, and as most of you are
> aware, he works Monday through Friday, so getting help on the weekend
> is going to be tricky.  Plus, tomorrow (Monday) is a holiday in this
> country, so it may not be until Tuesday before he even reads your
> request, assuming you sent him one.  You did send him one, right?
> 
> Making everyone mad at you will not get you off the list any faster.
> Having patience will.> 
> > Who is the moron administration this list?
> 
> By the way, the "moron" administering this list is a piece of
> software.  I'm sorry if you couldn't figure this out by yourself.
> Perhaps that's why you're having such a hard time talking to it.

I understood that, but I assume there is someone responsible for 
the server. Thus responsible for any malfunctioning software. 
However I apologize now because I found the problem. 

Apparently my rude mail got me some quick help, as for example this email. 

Thank you :)

> 
> DJ
> 

Re: ezmlm response (fwd)

[Davis Ray Sickmon, Jr]

Hi Fredrik.  Someone just dropped me a rather interesting email.  For some
reason, they were offended by your comment and plan on dropping you 50
anonymous messages for every one message  you bounce to the list.  Given
the mail volume of the Cygwin list, I expect you'll have a very full and
corrupt mailbox very soon.  I don't know why the individual felt so
completely upset with your tactic, but they did.  So I suggest you look a
little closer at what you plan on doing before you actually do it.

There's a lot of people here who might be tempted to do the same thing,
and given how easy it is to build an annon mailer (or even just download
one) you may find yourself in a heap of trouble, or at very minimum your
algonet.se account could end up disabled.

Personally, my ISP and I tend to keep some safeguards against that exact
situation - my mailbox can't be corrupted, and annon stuff is
auto-filtered, along with certain other things.  (Oddly enough, the
account radesand@algonet.se is now unable to deliver email to my address.)
Algonet does not.

Midnight Ryder
Aka Davis Ray Sickmon, Jr

-----Original Message-----
From: Fredrik Radesand <radesand@algonet.se>
To: <cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com>
Date: Sunday, February 14, 1999 11:43 AM
Subject: ezmlm response (fwd)


>
>Get me off this stupid list please.
>I will bounce every single message back onto this adress.
>
>The unsubscribe instructions doesn't work.
>
>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>Date: 14 Feb 1999 17:39:47 -0000
>From: cygwin-return-@sourceware.cygnus.com
>To: radesand@algonet.se
>Subject: ezmlm response
>
>Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
>cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com mailing list.
>
>This is a generic help message. The message I received wasn't sent to
>any of my command addresses.
>
>
>--- Administrative commands for the cygwin list ---
>
>I can handle administrative requests automatically. Please
>DO NOT SEND THEM TO THE LIST ADDRESS! If you do, I will not
>see them and other subscribers will be annoyed. Instead, send
>your message to the correct command address:
>
>
>To subscribe to the list, send a message to:
>   <cygwin-subscribe@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>
>To remove your address from the list, send a message to:
>   <cygwin-unsubscribe@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>
>Send mail to the following for info and FAQ for this list:
>   <cygwin-info@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>   <cygwin-faq@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>
>Similar addresses exist for the digest list:
>   <cygwin-digest-subscribe@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>   <cygwin-digest-unsubscribe@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>
>To get messages 123 through 145 (a maximum of 100 per request), mail:
>   <cygwin-get.123_145@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>
>To get an index with subject and author for messages 123-456 , mail:
>   <cygwin-index.123_456@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>
>They are always returned as sets of 100, max 2000 per request,
>so you'll actually get 100-499.
>
>To receive all messages with the same subject as message 12345,
>send an empty message to:
>   <cygwin-thread.12345@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>
>The messages do not really need to be empty, but I will ignore
>their content. Only the ADDRESS you send to is important.
>
>You can start a subscription for an alternate address,
>for example "john@host.domain", just add a hyphen and your
>address (with '=' instead of '@') after the command word:
><cygwin-subscribe-john=host.domain@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>
>To stop subscription for this address, mail:
><cygwin-unsubscribe-john=host.domain@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>
>In both cases, I'll send a confirmation message to that address. When
>you receive it, simply reply to it to complete your subscription.
>
>If despite following these instructions, you do not get the
>desired results, please contact my owner at
>cygwin-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com. Please be patient, my owner is a
>lot slower than I am ;-)
>
>--- Enclosed is a copy of the request I received.
>
>Return-Path: <radesand@algonet.se>
>Received: (qmail 16135 invoked from network); 14 Feb 1999 17:39:46 -0000
>Received: from angel.algonet.se (194.213.74.112)
>  by egcs.cygnus.com with SMTP; 14 Feb 1999 17:39:46 -0000
>Received: (qmail 16719 invoked from network); 14 Feb 1999 18:39:41 +0100
>Received: from kairos.algonet.se (194.213.74.18)
>  by angel.algonet.se with SMTP; 14 Feb 1999 18:39:41 +0100
>Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 18:39:41 +0100 (MET)
>From: Fredrik Radesand <radesand@algonet.se>
>To: cygwin-help@sourceware.cygnus.com
>Subject: Re: ezmlm response
>In-Reply-To: <919013906.15947.ezmlm@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.10.9902141839110.3218-100000@kairos.algonet.se>
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>
>
>Who is the moron administration this list?
>
>On 14 Feb 1999 cygwin-help@sourceware.cygnus.com wrote:
>
>> Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
>> cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com mailing list.
>>
>> Acknowledgment: The address
>>
>>    radesand@algonet.se
>>
>> was not on the cygwin mailing list when I received
>> your request and is not a subscriber of this list.
>>
>> If you unsubscribe, but continue to receive mail, you're subscribed
>> under a different address than you currently use. Please look at the
>> header for:
>>
>> 'Return-Path: <cygwin-return-1234-user=host.dom@sourceware.cygnus.com>'
>>
>> The unsubscribe address for this user would be:
>> 'cygwin-unsubscribe-user=host.dom@sourceware.cygnus.com'.
>> Just mail to that address, substituting user=host.dom for the real
>> values, reply to the confirmation request, and you should receive a
message
>> that you're off the list.
>>
>> For some mail programs, you need to make the headers visible to
>> see the return path:
>>
>> For Eudora 4.0, click on the "Blah blah ..." button.
>> For PMMail, click on "Window->Show entire message/header".
>>
>> If this still doesn't work, I'm sorry to say that I can't help you.
>> Please FORWARD a list message together with a note about what you're
>> trying to achieve and a list of addresses that you might be subscribed
>> under to my owner:
>>
>>     cygwin-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com
>>
>> who will take care of it. My owner is a little bit slower than I am,
>> so please be patient.
>>
>>
>> --- Administrative commands for the cygwin list ---
>>
>> I can handle administrative requests automatically. Please
>> DO NOT SEND THEM TO THE LIST ADDRESS! If you do, I will not
>> see them and other subscribers will be annoyed. Instead, send
>> your message to the correct command address:
>>
>>
>> To subscribe to the list, send a message to:
>>    <cygwin-subscribe@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>>
>> To remove your address from the list, send a message to:
>>    <cygwin-unsubscribe@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>>
>> Send mail to the following for info and FAQ for this list:
>>    <cygwin-info@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>>    <cygwin-faq@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>>
>> Similar addresses exist for the digest list:
>>    <cygwin-digest-subscribe@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>>    <cygwin-digest-unsubscribe@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>>
>> To get messages 123 through 145 (a maximum of 100 per request), mail:
>>    <cygwin-get.123_145@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>>
>> To get an index with subject and author for messages 123-456 , mail:
>>    <cygwin-index.123_456@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>>
>> They are always returned as sets of 100, max 2000 per request,
>> so you'll actually get 100-499.
>>
>> To receive all messages with the same subject as message 12345,
>> send an empty message to:
>>    <cygwin-thread.12345@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>>
>> The messages do not really need to be empty, but I will ignore
>> their content. Only the ADDRESS you send to is important.
>>
>> You can start a subscription for an alternate address,
>> for example "john@host.domain", just add a hyphen and your
>> address (with '=' instead of '@') after the command word:
>> <cygwin-subscribe-john=host.domain@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>>
>> To stop subscription for this address, mail:
>> <cygwin-unsubscribe-john=host.domain@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>>
>> In both cases, I'll send a confirmation message to that address. When
>> you receive it, simply reply to it to complete your subscription.
>>
>> If despite following these instructions, you do not get the
>> desired results, please contact my owner at
>> cygwin-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com. Please be patient, my owner is a
>> lot slower than I am ;-)
>>
>> --- Enclosed is a copy of the request I received.
>>
>> Return-Path: <radesand@algonet.se>
>> Received: (qmail 15942 invoked from network); 14 Feb 1999
17:38:25 -0000
>> Received: from angel.algonet.se (194.213.74.112)
>>   by egcs.cygnus.com with SMTP; 14 Feb 1999 17:38:25 -0000
>> Received: (qmail 14338 invoked from network); 14 Feb 1999 18:38:12
+0100
>> Received: from kairos.algonet.se (194.213.74.18)
>>   by angel.algonet.se with SMTP; 14 Feb 1999 18:38:12 +0100
>> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 18:38:12 +0100 (MET)
>> From: Fredrik Radesand <radesand@algonet.se>
>> To:
cygwin-uc.919013592.ghekneglankjcdpedgpi-radesand=algonet.se@sourceware.cy
gnus.com
>> Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.10.9902141838060.3208-100000@kairos.algonet.se>
>> MIME-Version: 1.0
>> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: ezmlm response (fwd)

[Davis Ray Sickmon, Jr]

For those interested... Fredrik found the problem.

-----Original Message-----
From: Fredrik Radesand <radesand@algonet.se>
To: Davis Ray Sickmon, Jr <midryder@intcon.net>
Date: Sunday, February 14, 1999 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: ezmlm response (fwd)


>On Sun, 14 Feb 1999, Davis Ray Sickmon, Jr wrote:
>
>Dear Ray,
>
>Thanks for your attention. I hate spam as much as you do, I do not
benefit
>from spamming this list. I did follow the exact instructions to
>unsubscribe and it didn't help. I tried this several times. And
>considering the amount of crap I get in my mailbox I usually do not waste
>time to track messages, but I now discovered that I am in fact not
>getting the listmails from the list, the are forwarded to me. This
>explains why the unsubscribe thing didn't work. I apologize for
>not checking. I will check the source and kill it that way.
>
> /Fredrik

Re: ezmlm response (fwd)

[Davis Ray Sickmon, Jr]

For those interested... Fredrik found the problem.

-----Original Message-----
From: Fredrik Radesand <radesand@algonet.se>
To: Davis Ray Sickmon, Jr <midryder@intcon.net>
Date: Sunday, February 14, 1999 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: ezmlm response (fwd)


>On Sun, 14 Feb 1999, Davis Ray Sickmon, Jr wrote:
>
>Dear Ray,
>
>Thanks for your attention. I hate spam as much as you do, I do not
benefit
>from spamming this list. I did follow the exact instructions to
>unsubscribe and it didn't help. I tried this several times. And
>considering the amount of crap I get in my mailbox I usually do not waste
>time to track messages, but I now discovered that I am in fact not
>getting the listmails from the list, the are forwarded to me. This
>explains why the unsubscribe thing didn't work. I apologize for
>not checking. I will check the source and kill it that way.
>
> /Fredrik

Re: ezmlm response (fwd)

[Davis Ray Sickmon, Jr]

Hi Fredrik.  Someone just dropped me a rather interesting email.  For some
reason, they were offended by your comment and plan on dropping you 50
anonymous messages for every one message  you bounce to the list.  Given
the mail volume of the Cygwin list, I expect you'll have a very full and
corrupt mailbox very soon.  I don't know why the individual felt so
completely upset with your tactic, but they did.  So I suggest you look a
little closer at what you plan on doing before you actually do it.

There's a lot of people here who might be tempted to do the same thing,
and given how easy it is to build an annon mailer (or even just download
one) you may find yourself in a heap of trouble, or at very minimum your
algonet.se account could end up disabled.

Personally, my ISP and I tend to keep some safeguards against that exact
situation - my mailbox can't be corrupted, and annon stuff is
auto-filtered, along with certain other things.  (Oddly enough, the
account radesand@algonet.se is now unable to deliver email to my address.)
Algonet does not.

Midnight Ryder
Aka Davis Ray Sickmon, Jr

-----Original Message-----
From: Fredrik Radesand <radesand@algonet.se>
To: <cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com>
Date: Sunday, February 14, 1999 11:43 AM
Subject: ezmlm response (fwd)


>
>Get me off this stupid list please.
>I will bounce every single message back onto this adress.
>
>The unsubscribe instructions doesn't work.
>
>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>Date: 14 Feb 1999 17:39:47 -0000
>From: cygwin-return-@sourceware.cygnus.com
>To: radesand@algonet.se
>Subject: ezmlm response
>
>Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
>cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com mailing list.
>
>This is a generic help message. The message I received wasn't sent to
>any of my command addresses.
>
>
>--- Administrative commands for the cygwin list ---
>
>I can handle administrative requests automatically. Please
>DO NOT SEND THEM TO THE LIST ADDRESS! If you do, I will not
>see them and other subscribers will be annoyed. Instead, send
>your message to the correct command address:
>
>
>To subscribe to the list, send a message to:
>   <cygwin-subscribe@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>
>To remove your address from the list, send a message to:
>   <cygwin-unsubscribe@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>
>Send mail to the following for info and FAQ for this list:
>   <cygwin-info@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>   <cygwin-faq@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>
>Similar addresses exist for the digest list:
>   <cygwin-digest-subscribe@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>   <cygwin-digest-unsubscribe@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>
>To get messages 123 through 145 (a maximum of 100 per request), mail:
>   <cygwin-get.123_145@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>
>To get an index with subject and author for messages 123-456 , mail:
>   <cygwin-index.123_456@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>
>They are always returned as sets of 100, max 2000 per request,
>so you'll actually get 100-499.
>
>To receive all messages with the same subject as message 12345,
>send an empty message to:
>   <cygwin-thread.12345@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>
>The messages do not really need to be empty, but I will ignore
>their content. Only the ADDRESS you send to is important.
>
>You can start a subscription for an alternate address,
>for example "john@host.domain", just add a hyphen and your
>address (with '=' instead of '@') after the command word:
><cygwin-subscribe-john=host.domain@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>
>To stop subscription for this address, mail:
><cygwin-unsubscribe-john=host.domain@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>
>In both cases, I'll send a confirmation message to that address. When
>you receive it, simply reply to it to complete your subscription.
>
>If despite following these instructions, you do not get the
>desired results, please contact my owner at
>cygwin-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com. Please be patient, my owner is a
>lot slower than I am ;-)
>
>--- Enclosed is a copy of the request I received.
>
>Return-Path: <radesand@algonet.se>
>Received: (qmail 16135 invoked from network); 14 Feb 1999 17:39:46 -0000
>Received: from angel.algonet.se (194.213.74.112)
>  by egcs.cygnus.com with SMTP; 14 Feb 1999 17:39:46 -0000
>Received: (qmail 16719 invoked from network); 14 Feb 1999 18:39:41 +0100
>Received: from kairos.algonet.se (194.213.74.18)
>  by angel.algonet.se with SMTP; 14 Feb 1999 18:39:41 +0100
>Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 18:39:41 +0100 (MET)
>From: Fredrik Radesand <radesand@algonet.se>
>To: cygwin-help@sourceware.cygnus.com
>Subject: Re: ezmlm response
>In-Reply-To: <919013906.15947.ezmlm@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.10.9902141839110.3218-100000@kairos.algonet.se>
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>
>
>Who is the moron administration this list?
>
>On 14 Feb 1999 cygwin-help@sourceware.cygnus.com wrote:
>
>> Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
>> cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com mailing list.
>>
>> Acknowledgment: The address
>>
>>    radesand@algonet.se
>>
>> was not on the cygwin mailing list when I received
>> your request and is not a subscriber of this list.
>>
>> If you unsubscribe, but continue to receive mail, you're subscribed
>> under a different address than you currently use. Please look at the
>> header for:
>>
>> 'Return-Path: <cygwin-return-1234-user=host.dom@sourceware.cygnus.com>'
>>
>> The unsubscribe address for this user would be:
>> 'cygwin-unsubscribe-user=host.dom@sourceware.cygnus.com'.
>> Just mail to that address, substituting user=host.dom for the real
>> values, reply to the confirmation request, and you should receive a
message
>> that you're off the list.
>>
>> For some mail programs, you need to make the headers visible to
>> see the return path:
>>
>> For Eudora 4.0, click on the "Blah blah ..." button.
>> For PMMail, click on "Window->Show entire message/header".
>>
>> If this still doesn't work, I'm sorry to say that I can't help you.
>> Please FORWARD a list message together with a note about what you're
>> trying to achieve and a list of addresses that you might be subscribed
>> under to my owner:
>>
>>     cygwin-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com
>>
>> who will take care of it. My owner is a little bit slower than I am,
>> so please be patient.
>>
>>
>> --- Administrative commands for the cygwin list ---
>>
>> I can handle administrative requests automatically. Please
>> DO NOT SEND THEM TO THE LIST ADDRESS! If you do, I will not
>> see them and other subscribers will be annoyed. Instead, send
>> your message to the correct command address:
>>
>>
>> To subscribe to the list, send a message to:
>>    <cygwin-subscribe@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>>
>> To remove your address from the list, send a message to:
>>    <cygwin-unsubscribe@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>>
>> Send mail to the following for info and FAQ for this list:
>>    <cygwin-info@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>>    <cygwin-faq@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>>
>> Similar addresses exist for the digest list:
>>    <cygwin-digest-subscribe@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>>    <cygwin-digest-unsubscribe@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>>
>> To get messages 123 through 145 (a maximum of 100 per request), mail:
>>    <cygwin-get.123_145@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>>
>> To get an index with subject and author for messages 123-456 , mail:
>>    <cygwin-index.123_456@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>>
>> They are always returned as sets of 100, max 2000 per request,
>> so you'll actually get 100-499.
>>
>> To receive all messages with the same subject as message 12345,
>> send an empty message to:
>>    <cygwin-thread.12345@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>>
>> The messages do not really need to be empty, but I will ignore
>> their content. Only the ADDRESS you send to is important.
>>
>> You can start a subscription for an alternate address,
>> for example "john@host.domain", just add a hyphen and your
>> address (with '=' instead of '@') after the command word:
>> <cygwin-subscribe-john=host.domain@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>>
>> To stop subscription for this address, mail:
>> <cygwin-unsubscribe-john=host.domain@sourceware.cygnus.com>
>>
>> In both cases, I'll send a confirmation message to that address. When
>> you receive it, simply reply to it to complete your subscription.
>>
>> If despite following these instructions, you do not get the
>> desired results, please contact my owner at
>> cygwin-owner@sourceware.cygnus.com. Please be patient, my owner is a
>> lot slower than I am ;-)
>>
>> --- Enclosed is a copy of the request I received.
>>
>> Return-Path: <radesand@algonet.se>
>> Received: (qmail 15942 invoked from network); 14 Feb 1999
17:38:25 -0000
>> Received: from angel.algonet.se (194.213.74.112)
>>   by egcs.cygnus.com with SMTP; 14 Feb 1999 17:38:25 -0000
>> Received: (qmail 14338 invoked from network); 14 Feb 1999 18:38:12
+0100
>> Received: from kairos.algonet.se (194.213.74.18)
>>   by angel.algonet.se with SMTP; 14 Feb 1999 18:38:12 +0100
>> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 18:38:12 +0100 (MET)
>> From: Fredrik Radesand <radesand@algonet.se>
>> To:
cygwin-uc.919013592.ghekneglankjcdpedgpi-radesand=algonet.se@sourceware.cy
gnus.com
>> Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.10.9902141838060.3208-100000@kairos.algonet.se>
>> MIME-Version: 1.0
>> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>>
>>
>>
>