From: DJ Delorie <dj@delorie.com>
To: paul-ml@is.lg.ua
Cc: corinna.vinschen@cityweb.de, cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com
Subject: Re: Cygwin B20 - fseek under gcc fails to reposition on text files
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 10:07:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <199902171807.NAA16764@envy.delorie.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: < 17817.990217@is.lg.ua > (message from Paul Sokolovsky on Wed, 17Feb 1999 19:37:11 +0200)
> And finally, from where all this stuff might be originated - it may
> be done whatever wanted, but if, when writing to console we get clobbered
> output without carrage returns, it doesn't cost a cent. That's where
> myth of win32 speciality breaks down - Win32 console, as any other
> console in cooked mode (Linux, say) performs implicit cr after lf,
> when there's no explicit.
To add fact to the myth, if you bring up such a file (\n without \r)
in notepad, it does not do the right thing - it very explicitly looks
for the CR/LF pair to mean a line ending, and no other ending will do.
Batch files also cannot have NL endings - they need CR/LF endings.
Of course, this really just means that the programmers were
short-sighted, but it's still a fact we must live with.
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From: DJ Delorie <dj@delorie.com>
To: paul-ml@is.lg.ua
Cc: corinna.vinschen@cityweb.de, cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com
Subject: Re: Cygwin B20 - fseek under gcc fails to reposition on text files
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 23:02:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <199902171807.NAA16764@envy.delorie.com> (raw)
Message-ID: <19990228230200.hfZqJTyOTLbk3RQOCFpbS4Bcw7Baq-VCByTF4u-iUHM@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17817.990217@is.lg.ua>
> And finally, from where all this stuff might be originated - it may
> be done whatever wanted, but if, when writing to console we get clobbered
> output without carrage returns, it doesn't cost a cent. That's where
> myth of win32 speciality breaks down - Win32 console, as any other
> console in cooked mode (Linux, say) performs implicit cr after lf,
> when there's no explicit.
To add fact to the myth, if you bring up such a file (\n without \r)
in notepad, it does not do the right thing - it very explicitly looks
for the CR/LF pair to mean a line ending, and no other ending will do.
Batch files also cannot have NL endings - they need CR/LF endings.
Of course, this really just means that the programmers were
short-sighted, but it's still a fact we must live with.
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Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1999-02-16 7:41 Earnie Boyd
[not found] ` < 19990216154134.3413.rocketmail@send104.yahoomail.com >
1999-02-16 17:52 ` Christopher Faylor
[not found] ` < 19990216205243.L16511@cygnus.com >
1999-02-16 18:18 ` DJ Delorie
1999-02-28 23:02 ` DJ Delorie
1999-02-17 2:01 ` Corinna Vinschen
1999-02-17 9:36 ` Re[2]: " Paul Sokolovsky
[not found] ` < 17817.990217@is.lg.ua >
1999-02-17 10:07 ` DJ Delorie [this message]
[not found] ` < 199902171807.NAA16764@envy.delorie.com >
1999-02-17 19:16 ` Larry Hall
[not found] ` < 3.0.5.32.19990217221306.0162b070@pop.ma.ultranet.com >
1999-02-17 19:19 ` DJ Delorie
[not found] ` < 199902180318.WAA20394@envy.delorie.com >
1999-02-17 20:13 ` Larry Hall
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Larry Hall
1999-02-28 23:02 ` DJ Delorie
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Larry Hall
1999-02-28 23:02 ` DJ Delorie
1999-02-17 13:37 ` Corinna Vinschen
1999-02-19 2:30 ` Re[2]: " Paul Sokolovsky
[not found] ` < 17776.990218@is.lg.ua >
1999-02-19 6:36 ` Christopher Faylor
1999-02-22 3:26 ` Re[2]: " Paul Sokolovsky
[not found] ` < 13561.990222@is.lg.ua >
1999-02-22 8:55 ` Cygwin participation threshold DJ Delorie
[not found] ` < 199902221654.LAA07362@envy.delorie.com >
1999-02-22 10:33 ` Carl Zmola
[not found] ` < 19990222183222023.AAA254@carl_zmola >
1999-02-22 11:21 ` Fergus Henderson
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Fergus Henderson
1999-02-22 12:32 ` DJ Delorie
1999-02-28 23:02 ` DJ Delorie
1999-02-24 0:08 ` Christopher Faylor
[not found] ` < 19990223214848.A23525@cygnus.com >
1999-02-24 5:51 ` Fergus Henderson
[not found] ` < 19990225005148.53402@mundook.cs.mu.OZ.AU >
1999-02-24 9:18 ` Christopher Faylor
1999-02-24 19:23 ` Weiqi Gao
[not found] ` < 36D4C298.32C1C355@a.crl.com >
1999-02-25 0:23 ` Fergus Henderson
1999-02-25 6:01 ` Weiqi Gao
1999-02-25 13:48 ` Re[2]: " Paul Sokolovsky
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Paul Sokolovsky
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Weiqi Gao
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Fergus Henderson
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Weiqi Gao
[not found] ` < 19990224121846.A25762@cygnus.com >
1999-02-25 0:14 ` Fergus Henderson
[not found] ` < 19990225191420.16813@mundook.cs.mu.OZ.AU >
1999-02-25 1:00 ` Lam Pui Yuen
[not found] ` < Pine.BSI.3.95.990225170005.16688A-100000@topaz.hknet.com >
1999-02-25 1:09 ` Lam Pui Yuen
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Lam Pui Yuen
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Lam Pui Yuen
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Fergus Henderson
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Christopher Faylor
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Fergus Henderson
1999-02-24 10:37 ` Carl Zmola
[not found] ` < 19990224183738302.AAA218@carl_zmola >
1999-02-24 10:44 ` Christopher Faylor
[not found] ` < 19990224134450.B26262@cygnus.com >
1999-02-24 10:48 ` Carl Zmola
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Carl Zmola
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Christopher Faylor
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Carl Zmola
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Christopher Faylor
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Carl Zmola
1999-02-28 23:02 ` DJ Delorie
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Re[2]: Cygwin B20 - fseek under gcc fails to reposition on text files Paul Sokolovsky
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Christopher Faylor
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Re[2]: " Paul Sokolovsky
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Corinna Vinschen
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Re[2]: " Paul Sokolovsky
[not found] ` < 36CA92B5.844635AA@cityweb.de >
1999-02-17 8:07 ` DJ Delorie
1999-02-28 23:02 ` DJ Delorie
1999-02-17 13:46 ` J. J. Farrell
1999-02-28 23:02 ` J. J. Farrell
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Corinna Vinschen
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Christopher Faylor
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Earnie Boyd
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1999-02-22 14:28 Earnie Boyd
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Earnie Boyd
1999-02-19 7:00 setera
[not found] ` < 8525671D.00525F37.00@D51MTA10.pok.ibm.com >
1999-02-19 17:21 ` Christopher Faylor
1999-02-22 13:40 ` Corinna Vinschen
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Corinna Vinschen
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Christopher Faylor
1999-02-28 23:02 ` setera
1999-02-16 5:27 Earnie Boyd
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Earnie Boyd
1999-02-16 4:24 Peter Kabal
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Peter Kabal
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