From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Christopher Faylor To: Fergus Henderson Cc: cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com Subject: Re: Cygwin participation threshold Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 09:18:00 -0000 Message-id: <19990224121846.A25762@cygnus.com> In-reply-to: < 19990225005148.53402@mundook.cs.mu.OZ.AU >; from Fergus Henderson on Thu, Feb 25, 1999 at 12:51:48AM +1100 References: <13561.990222@is.lg.ua> <199902221654.LAA07362@envy.delorie.com> <19990222183222023.AAA254@carl_zmola> <19990223214848.A23525@cygnus.com> <19990225005148.53402@mundook.cs.mu.OZ.AU> <19990225005148.53402@mundook.cs.mu.OZ.AU> X-SW-Source: 1999-02/msg00781.html On Thu, Feb 25, 1999 at 12:51:48AM +1100, Fergus Henderson wrote: >On 23-Feb-1999, Christopher Faylor wrote: >> On Mon, Feb 22, 1999, Carl Zmola wrote: >> > >> >The fact that a company is in charge of >> >coordinating the efforts has an effect. >> > >> >In the past the main reason I didn't even investigate contributing is : >> >Because of the feeling that contributions are unwanted, and that someone >> >else is making money of of my work. >> > >> >After a little investigation, I found that these wern't valid concerns, but >> >they are a first line of resistance. >> >> It is interesting that you felt this way at first. I wonder if the reason >> has anything to do with the name "Cygwin" which sounds so similar to "Cygnus". >> >> The reason I am saying this is because hundreds of people have contributed to >> the linux project and *many* companies make money from linux. > >Yes, but you can write and distribute proprietry applications or even >proprietry kernel modules for Linux without paying anyone a license fee. >The same is not true for Cygwin (although it *was* true once, back around >version b16, when it was called gnu-win32). True, but that is not the point. I believe this whold thread started because I lamented the lack of people contributing directly to cygwin development. The many contributors to the linux kernel do not do so because it is possible to develop proprietary code for linux. I don't consider companies who create proprietary kernel modules as contributing to linux development in any way. Possibly they help indirectly by getting the word out about linux but that is a secondary and, IMO, very minor benefit. cf -- Want to unsubscribe from this list? Send a message to cygwin-unsubscribe@sourceware.cygnus.com From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Christopher Faylor To: Fergus Henderson Cc: cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com Subject: Re: Cygwin participation threshold Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 23:02:00 -0000 Message-ID: <19990224121846.A25762@cygnus.com> References: <13561.990222@is.lg.ua> <199902221654.LAA07362@envy.delorie.com> <19990222183222023.AAA254@carl_zmola> <19990223214848.A23525@cygnus.com> <19990225005148.53402@mundook.cs.mu.OZ.AU> X-SW-Source: 1999-02n/msg00780.html Message-ID: <19990228230200.7ToewVVMHR-PCOB6sRZ16EX5Wyo4vqGt544eAlNCUU0@z> On Thu, Feb 25, 1999 at 12:51:48AM +1100, Fergus Henderson wrote: >On 23-Feb-1999, Christopher Faylor wrote: >> On Mon, Feb 22, 1999, Carl Zmola wrote: >> > >> >The fact that a company is in charge of >> >coordinating the efforts has an effect. >> > >> >In the past the main reason I didn't even investigate contributing is : >> >Because of the feeling that contributions are unwanted, and that someone >> >else is making money of of my work. >> > >> >After a little investigation, I found that these wern't valid concerns, but >> >they are a first line of resistance. >> >> It is interesting that you felt this way at first. I wonder if the reason >> has anything to do with the name "Cygwin" which sounds so similar to "Cygnus". >> >> The reason I am saying this is because hundreds of people have contributed to >> the linux project and *many* companies make money from linux. > >Yes, but you can write and distribute proprietry applications or even >proprietry kernel modules for Linux without paying anyone a license fee. >The same is not true for Cygwin (although it *was* true once, back around >version b16, when it was called gnu-win32). True, but that is not the point. I believe this whold thread started because I lamented the lack of people contributing directly to cygwin development. The many contributors to the linux kernel do not do so because it is possible to develop proprietary code for linux. I don't consider companies who create proprietary kernel modules as contributing to linux development in any way. Possibly they help indirectly by getting the word out about linux but that is a secondary and, IMO, very minor benefit. cf -- Want to unsubscribe from this list? Send a message to cygwin-unsubscribe@sourceware.cygnus.com