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From: Christopher Faylor <cgf@cygnus.com>
To: Fergus Henderson <fjh@cs.mu.OZ.AU>
Cc: cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com
Subject: Re: Cygwin participation threshold
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 23:02:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <19990224121846.A25762@cygnus.com> (raw)
Message-ID: <19990228230200.7ToewVVMHR-PCOB6sRZ16EX5Wyo4vqGt544eAlNCUU0@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <19990225005148.53402@mundook.cs.mu.OZ.AU>

On Thu, Feb 25, 1999 at 12:51:48AM +1100, Fergus Henderson wrote:
>On 23-Feb-1999, Christopher Faylor <cgf@cygnus.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, Feb 22, 1999, Carl Zmola wrote:
>> >
>> >The fact that a company is in charge of 
>> >coordinating the efforts has an effect.
>> >
>> >In the past the main reason I didn't even investigate contributing is :
>> >Because of the feeling that contributions are unwanted, and that someone
>> >else is making money of of my work.
>> >
>> >After a little investigation, I found that these wern't valid concerns, but
>> >they are a first line of resistance.  
>> 
>> It is interesting that you felt this way at first.  I wonder if the reason
>> has anything to do with the name "Cygwin" which sounds so similar to "Cygnus".
>> 
>> The reason I am saying this is because hundreds of people have contributed to
>> the linux project and *many* companies make money from linux.
>
>Yes, but you can write and distribute proprietry applications or even
>proprietry kernel modules for Linux without paying anyone a license fee.
>The same is not true for Cygwin (although it *was* true once, back around
>version b16, when it was called gnu-win32).

True, but that is not the point.  I believe this whold thread started
because I lamented the lack of people contributing directly to cygwin
development.  The many contributors to the linux kernel do not do so
because it is possible to develop proprietary code for linux.

I don't consider companies who create proprietary kernel modules as
contributing to linux development in any way.  Possibly they help indirectly
by getting the word out about linux but that is a secondary and, IMO, very
minor benefit.

cf

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  reply	other threads:[~1999-02-28 23:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-02-16  7:41 Cygwin B20 - fseek under gcc fails to reposition on text files Earnie Boyd
     [not found] ` < 19990216154134.3413.rocketmail@send104.yahoomail.com >
1999-02-16 17:52   ` Christopher Faylor
     [not found]     ` < 19990216205243.L16511@cygnus.com >
1999-02-16 18:18       ` DJ Delorie
1999-02-28 23:02         ` DJ Delorie
1999-02-17  2:01     ` Corinna Vinschen
1999-02-17  9:36       ` Re[2]: " Paul Sokolovsky
     [not found]         ` < 17817.990217@is.lg.ua >
1999-02-17 10:07           ` DJ Delorie
     [not found]             ` < 199902171807.NAA16764@envy.delorie.com >
1999-02-17 19:16               ` Larry Hall
     [not found]                 ` < 3.0.5.32.19990217221306.0162b070@pop.ma.ultranet.com >
1999-02-17 19:19                   ` DJ Delorie
     [not found]                     ` < 199902180318.WAA20394@envy.delorie.com >
1999-02-17 20:13                       ` Larry Hall
1999-02-28 23:02                         ` Larry Hall
1999-02-28 23:02                     ` DJ Delorie
1999-02-28 23:02                 ` Larry Hall
1999-02-28 23:02             ` DJ Delorie
1999-02-17 13:37         ` Corinna Vinschen
1999-02-19  2:30           ` Re[2]: " Paul Sokolovsky
     [not found]             ` < 17776.990218@is.lg.ua >
1999-02-19  6:36               ` Christopher Faylor
1999-02-22  3:26                 ` Re[2]: " Paul Sokolovsky
     [not found]                   ` < 13561.990222@is.lg.ua >
1999-02-22  8:55                     ` Cygwin participation threshold DJ Delorie
     [not found]                       ` < 199902221654.LAA07362@envy.delorie.com >
1999-02-22 10:33                         ` Carl Zmola
     [not found]                           ` < 19990222183222023.AAA254@carl_zmola >
1999-02-22 11:21                             ` Fergus Henderson
1999-02-28 23:02                               ` Fergus Henderson
1999-02-22 12:32                             ` DJ Delorie
1999-02-28 23:02                               ` DJ Delorie
1999-02-24  0:08                             ` Christopher Faylor
     [not found]                               ` < 19990223214848.A23525@cygnus.com >
1999-02-24  5:51                                 ` Fergus Henderson
     [not found]                                   ` < 19990225005148.53402@mundook.cs.mu.OZ.AU >
1999-02-24  9:18                                     ` Christopher Faylor [this message]
1999-02-24 19:23                                       ` Weiqi Gao
     [not found]                                         ` < 36D4C298.32C1C355@a.crl.com >
1999-02-25  0:23                                           ` Fergus Henderson
1999-02-25  6:01                                             ` Weiqi Gao
1999-02-25 13:48                                               ` Re[2]: " Paul Sokolovsky
1999-02-28 23:02                                                 ` Paul Sokolovsky
1999-02-28 23:02                                               ` Weiqi Gao
1999-02-28 23:02                                             ` Fergus Henderson
1999-02-28 23:02                                         ` Weiqi Gao
     [not found]                                       ` < 19990224121846.A25762@cygnus.com >
1999-02-25  0:14                                         ` Fergus Henderson
     [not found]                                           ` < 19990225191420.16813@mundook.cs.mu.OZ.AU >
1999-02-25  1:00                                             ` Lam Pui Yuen
     [not found]                                               ` < Pine.BSI.3.95.990225170005.16688A-100000@topaz.hknet.com >
1999-02-25  1:09                                                 ` Lam Pui Yuen
1999-02-28 23:02                                                   ` Lam Pui Yuen
1999-02-28 23:02                                               ` Lam Pui Yuen
1999-02-28 23:02                                           ` Fergus Henderson
1999-02-28 23:02                                       ` Christopher Faylor
1999-02-28 23:02                                   ` Fergus Henderson
1999-02-24 10:37                                 ` Carl Zmola
     [not found]                                   ` < 19990224183738302.AAA218@carl_zmola >
1999-02-24 10:44                                     ` Christopher Faylor
     [not found]                                       ` < 19990224134450.B26262@cygnus.com >
1999-02-24 10:48                                         ` Carl Zmola
1999-02-28 23:02                                           ` Carl Zmola
1999-02-28 23:02                                       ` Christopher Faylor
1999-02-28 23:02                                   ` Carl Zmola
1999-02-28 23:02                               ` Christopher Faylor
1999-02-28 23:02                           ` Carl Zmola
1999-02-28 23:02                       ` DJ Delorie
1999-02-28 23:02                   ` Re[2]: Cygwin B20 - fseek under gcc fails to reposition on text files Paul Sokolovsky
1999-02-28 23:02                 ` Christopher Faylor
1999-02-28 23:02             ` Re[2]: " Paul Sokolovsky
1999-02-28 23:02           ` Corinna Vinschen
1999-02-28 23:02         ` Re[2]: " Paul Sokolovsky
     [not found]       ` < 36CA92B5.844635AA@cityweb.de >
1999-02-17  8:07         ` DJ Delorie
1999-02-28 23:02           ` DJ Delorie
1999-02-17 13:46         ` J. J. Farrell
1999-02-28 23:02           ` J. J. Farrell
1999-02-28 23:02       ` Corinna Vinschen
1999-02-28 23:02     ` Christopher Faylor
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Earnie Boyd
1999-02-22  9:10 Cygwin participation threshold Suhaib M. Siddiqi
     [not found] ` < 008401be5e87$f1dcd510$29acdfd0@InspirePharm.Com >
1999-02-22 11:38   ` DJ Delorie
1999-02-28 23:02     ` DJ Delorie
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Suhaib M. Siddiqi
1999-02-22 13:00 Suhaib M. Siddiqi
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Suhaib M. Siddiqi
1999-02-22 20:54 Tom St Denis
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Tom St Denis
1999-02-24 10:55 Steve Morris
     [not found] ` < 199902241855.NAA16459@brocade.nexen.com >
1999-02-24 12:40   ` Christopher Faylor
1999-02-24 13:13     ` Re[2]: " Paul Sokolovsky
     [not found]       ` < 2965.990224@is.lg.ua >
1999-02-24 13:21         ` Christopher Faylor
     [not found]           ` < 19990224162212.A27405@cygnus.com >
1999-02-25 22:51             ` Geoffrey Noer
     [not found]               ` < 19990225225149.A1388@cygnus.com >
1999-02-26  7:26                 ` Larry Hall
1999-02-28 23:02                   ` Larry Hall
1999-02-28 23:02               ` Geoffrey Noer
1999-02-28 23:02           ` Christopher Faylor
     [not found]     ` < 19990224154034.E26668@cygnus.com >
1999-02-24 13:50       ` DJ Delorie
1999-02-28 23:02         ` DJ Delorie
1999-02-26  8:27       ` Steve Morris
     [not found]         ` < 199902261627.LAA18993@brocade.nexen.com >
1999-02-27  7:49           ` Todd Goodman
1999-02-28 23:02             ` Todd Goodman
1999-02-28 23:02         ` Steve Morris
1999-02-26  8:55       ` Steve Morris
1999-02-28 23:02         ` Steve Morris
1999-02-28 23:02     ` Christopher Faylor
1999-02-24 12:46 ` Re[2]: " Paul Sokolovsky
     [not found]   ` < 15947.990224@is.lg.ua >
1999-02-24 13:28     ` Christopher Faylor
     [not found]       ` < 19990224162911.A27461@cygnus.com >
1999-02-24 14:16         ` Mumit Khan
1999-02-28 23:02           ` Mumit Khan
1999-02-28 23:02       ` Christopher Faylor
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Steve Morris
1999-02-24 13:43 Ken Thompson
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Ken Thompson
1999-02-25 10:09 Bernard Dautrevaux
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Bernard Dautrevaux
1999-02-25 10:24 Suhaib M. Siddiqi
     [not found] ` < 004c01be60ee$09a84c20$29acdfd0@InspirePharm.Com >
1999-02-25 10:36   ` DJ Delorie
1999-02-28 23:02     ` DJ Delorie
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Suhaib M. Siddiqi
1999-02-26  0:26 Bernard Dautrevaux
     [not found] ` < 8135911A809AD211AF6300A02480D175034922@iis000.microdata.fr >
1999-02-26  8:40   ` DJ Delorie
1999-02-28 23:02     ` DJ Delorie
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Bernard Dautrevaux
1999-02-28 16:22 Christopher G. Faylor
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Christopher G. Faylor

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