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De : Cygwin <cygwin-bounces+stephane.croses=perf.coop@cygwin.com> De la part de Andrey Repin via Cygwin
Envoyé : lundi 24 juin 2024 16:14
À : Dr Bean <drbean@freeshell.org>; cygwin@cygwin.com
Cc : Andrey Repin <anrdaemon@yandex.ru>
Objet : Re: No Native Language Support in browser started from shell prompt

Greetings, Dr Bean!

>> >
>> > Am 14.06.2024 um 09:37 schrieb Dr Bean via Cygwin:
>> > > With qutebrowser and Microsoft Edge started from a cygwin shell 
>> > > prompt, there is no Native Language Support.
>> > > 
>> > > Started from a cmd prompt,
>> > > 
>> > > "c:\Program Files\qutebrowser\qutebrowser.exe" 
>> > > https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8%A5%BF%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%AC%E3%81%A
>> > > E%E5%A4%A7%E5%AD%A6%E4%B8%80%E8%A6%A7
>> > > 
>> > > qutebrowser has Chinese and Japanese support.
>> > > 
>> > > But in cygwin neither qutebrowser, started with cygstart or as 
>> > > /cygdrive/c/Program\ Files/qutebrowser/qutebrowser
>> > > https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8%A5%BF%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%AC%E3%81%A
>> > > E%E5%A4%A7%E5%AD%A6%E4%B8%80%E8%A6%A7
>> > > 
>> > > nor Microsoft Edge as default browser started with cygstart, enjoy NLS support.
>> > That page displays fine for me, after starting /Program Files 
>> > (x86)/Microsoft/Edge/Application/msedge.exe with cygstart. What 
>> > exactly is the symptom of "no Japanese support"?
>> 
>> I spoke too soon. Microsoft Edge doesn't appear to lack NLS support 
>> when started from a mintty window either with cygstart or the /cygdrive path.

> I installed Google Chrome, and Japanese and Korean keyboard entry 
> appear to be supported by both IME when it is started from a mintty 
> window with cygstart or directly with the cygdrive path.

If I'm allowed to hazard a guess, check if any of the environment variables set by Cygwin affecting your browser.
My first suspicion would be LANG and LOCALE ones.

> So this appears to be a limitation specifically of qutebrowser.

> I will investigate.


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>    1. Re: katomic and atomix will not run (Brian Inglis)
>    2. Re: gfortran 9.3 write format error (Charles Russell)
>    3. Re: gfortran 9.3 write format error (worsafe@bellsouth.net)
>    4. Re: gfortran 9.3 write format error (worsafe@bellsouth.net)
>    5. Re: gfortran 9.3 write format error (Charles Russell)
>    6. Re: open write descriptor on named pipe sometime results in
>       ENOENT (Ken Brown)
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Brian Inglis <Brian.Inglis@systematicsw.ab.ca>
> To: cygwin@cygwin.com
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2020 11:15:22 -0600
> Subject: Re: katomic and atomix will not run
> On 2020-04-18 10:20, Eliot Moss wrote:
> > On 4/18/2020 11:40 AM, Phoenix Soul wrote:
> >> No, I haven't. What is it and how do I run one?
> >>
> >> On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 3:23 PM Eliot Moss <moss@cs.umass.edu
> >> <mailto:moss@cs.umass.edu>> wrote:
> >>
> >>     On 4/17/2020 5:16 PM, Phoenix Soul via Cygwin wrote:
> >>      > I decided that I was going to get katomic and atomix for cygwin,
> and
> >>      > selected the most recent version listed.
> >>      > atomix refuses to run and says:
> >>      > Unable to init server: Could not connect to 127.0.0.1
> >> <http://127.0.0.1>: Connection refused
> >>      >
> >>      > (atomix:1495): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
> >>      > katomic says:
> >>      > QStandardPaths: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set, defaulting to
> >>      > '/tmp/runtime-warri_000'
> >>      > qt.qpa.screen: QXcbConnection: Could not connect to display
> >>      > Could not connect to any X display.
> >>      > I have already tried using source as well. I have already pinged
> 127.0.0.1
> >>      > (localhost) to ensure that it does exist. What must be done to
> fix it.
> >>      > Windows version is 8.1, and this is a no admin installation.
> >>
> >>     ... and you have an X server already running?  Maybe some details
> >>     about that end of things will help folks help you ...
>
> Shouldn't those apps also be in X11 categories to be clear?
>
> > Well that explains your error messages :-) ...
> >
> > An X server deals with the screen, and X windows applications, such as
> the
> > ones you're trying to run, connect to it to get their stuff displayed.
> >
> > The guide to X on Cygwin may be found at https://x.cygwin.com/docs/ug/.
> > I also find the XLaunch program to be helpful.  Maybe someone else has a
> > short cookbook list of things to do or can direct you to particular
> > sections of the guide ...
>
> They could be run against a non-Cygwin Xserver anywhere.
> I think the Cygwin minimal package list for X is to install package xinit
> to
> pull in everything else needed for a local multi-window X server.
>
> --
> Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada
>
> This email may be disturbing to some readers as it contains
> too much technical detail. Reader discretion is advised.
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Charles Russell <worsafe@bellsouth.net>
> To: cygwin cygwin <cygwin@cygwin.com>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2020 13:13:30 -0500
> Subject: Re: gfortran 9.3 write format error
> On 4/18/2020 11:23 AM, Brian Inglis wrote:
>   what compiler version are you using on Debian
>
> $ gfortran --version
> GNU Fortran (Debian 8.3.0-6) 8.3.0
>
> When support ended for g77 I feared for my collection of old fortran
> code, but it all worked fine under gfortran after a few trivial changes
> that I made years ago. (BLOCK DATA had to be rewritten, but I had used
> that only once.) The gfortran developers must intend to keep viable all
> that netlib code that has been widely used and thoroughly debugged. No
> problems with the above gfortran version, which is newer than the most
> recent one for Cygwin. So I doubt that the error message comes from
> intentional compiler changes.
>
> Like you, I can't understand why a syntax error should appear at run
> time.  gfortran is good at finding syntax errors at compile time.
>
> I'm still using fortran 77 because it meets my needs, I know where the
> bugs hide, and that is the language of most netlib code and of all my
> old tools. gfortran handles it well.
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: worsafe@bellsouth.net
> To: cygwin cygwin <cygwin@cygwin.com>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2020 13:45:11 -0500
> Subject: Re: gfortran 9.3 write format error
> Error in my last message - the current debian gfortran (8.3.0) is in
> fact older than the current cygwin fortran (9.3.0).  So I'll try
> downgrading to 8.3.0 in cygwin.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
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> To: cygwin cygwin <cygwin@cygwin.com>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2020 13:52:35 -0500
> Subject: Re: gfortran 9.3 write format error
> There was an error in my last message In fact, the current cygwin
> gfortran is 9.3.0, the current debian compiler is 8.3.0. I'll have to
> reflect upon that.
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
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> To: cygwin cygwin <cygwin@cygwin.com>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2020 15:12:20 -0500
> Subject: Re: gfortran 9.3 write format error
> Problem solved (probably).
>
> When setting out to downgrade gfortran, I found that there was a slight
> upgrade available - 9.3.0.1 to 9.3.0.2. I upgraded, ran "make clean" and
> "make test".  This time it ran to completion with no error message.
>
> Seems unlikely this minor upgrade fixed a major problem.  More likely,
> reinstalling gfortran was what fixed it.
>
> I was having similar problems with other programs, not just this one,
> and time will tell whether upgrading fixed everything.
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Ken Brown <kbrown@cornell.edu>
> To: sten.kristian.ivarsson@gmail.com, cygwin@cygwin.com
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2020 17:48:48 -0400
> Subject: Re: open write descriptor on named pipe sometime results in ENOENT
> On 4/18/2020 11:24 AM, sten.kristian.ivarsson@gmail.com wrote:
> > Hey all
> >
> >
> > We're trying to nail down some issues with using named pipes
> >
> > The issue we're getting is deterministic (ENXIO) but it is not this one,
> but
> > we think this issue is worth reporting anyway
> >
> >
> > We're using the branch topic/fifo
> >
> >
> >
> > The program explained in short is:
> >
> >
> > - One main (parent) pipe that lives through the whole execution
> >
> > - The main process forks 'children' child-processes that creates their
> own
> > (unique) named pipes
> >
> > - Each child forks 'children' grans-child-processes that just writes some
> > bogus messages back to the unique child pipe
> >
> > - Each child writes a bogus message back to the main process
> >
> > - Every process creates a write and a read descriptor, but the write
> > descriptor is just a dummy descriptor (to somehow keep the pipe alive
> > without being bombarded with signals)
> >
> > - This iterates a few times
> >
> >
> > Some of the constructs may be a bit confusing and maybe not relevant to
> this
> > issue, but I left them in the test-program anyway
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Issue #1 sometimes occurs in line 35 (printed as 36) we get ENOENT (No
> such
> > file or directory) despite that the pipe was just created and the read
> > descriptor successfully was opened
> >
> >     *wfd = open(name, O_WRONLY);
> >
> >
> > Issue #2 sometimes occurs in line 73 (printed as 74) we get EBUSY
> (Device or
> > resource busy) when attempting to open a non blocking descriptor
> >
> >     const int wfd = open(name, O_WRONLY | O_NONBLOCK);
> >
> >
> > Issue #3 sometimes occurs somewhere unknown and the main process just get
> > stuck (I've failed to reproduced that with strace or so) and to not have
> any
> > more input so maybe this should be left out ?
> >
> >
> >
> > I hope this is well described and hopefully it's enough to reproduce the
> > issue(s) and hopefully is not due to a fault test case ;-)
>
> I'm just in the middle of fixing some bugs that are probably related.  I
> hope to
> have some fixes in the next day or two, as well as better error codes.
> (The
> error codes are mostly translated from NTSTATUS codes and often don't
> reflect
> the real problem.)
>
> By the way, I really appreciate all your testing and bug reports.  The
> FIFO code
> is fairly new and hasn't gotten any intense testing up to now, especially
> in the
> non-blocking case.
>
> Ken
>
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On Mon, 28 Jul 2003, Bushy wrote:

> Hi,
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> I'v e tried multiple times to unsubscribe from this list but it won't let me!~!!!
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How difficult can it be to write a list server that looks at the mail it is
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Maybe the problem is that the list server was designed to make
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Re: unsubscribe

[Christopher Faylor]

Actually, you have seen very few unsubscribe messages in the last few
years because the previous mailing list software was set up to do pretty
much what you describe.

As should be painfully obvious, we are still in the process of tweaking
the new mailing list software.  We didn't get everything exactly right
in our first attempt.

Also, you're responding to a thread that died out almost a week ago.

Personally, I find these little bad-humored, off-topic rants much more
distracting than the occasional 'unsubscribe' message.

YMMV.

On Wed, Feb 10, 1999 at 02:23:38PM -0800, Simon Quellen Field wrote:
>How many times over the past few years have we seen 'unsubscribe'
>messages?  When that many people can't figure out how to do common
>operations with a piece of software, maybe it's time to blame the
>software instead of the people.
>
>How difficult can it be to write a list server that looks at the mail it is
>about to send, checking for content that has nothing but the word
>'unsubscribe' in it?  Certainly once it has found such a piece of mail,
>it is not brain surgery to decide not to mail it out to the list, but
>instead to simply honor the request.
>
>Maybe the problem is that the list server was designed to make
>Multi-Level Marketing easy, (hence the name 'ezmlm'), and people
>who cater to spammers have a different outlook than a bunch of
>programmers who donate their time to providing free software to
>the world.
>
>Maybe the next free software project should be a smarter list server.
>
>At 03:18 PM 2/4/99 -0500, Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) wrote:
>>At 11:59 AM 2/4/99 -0800, H. Sawyer Gillespie wrote:
>>>unsubscribe
>>>
>>
>>Can people PLEASE stop sending their requests for unsubscribing to the list?
>>The proper way to unsubscribe from the list is to send mail to the LIST 
>>SERVER address, NOT the list address itself.  If you don't know what the
>>address is that you should send to, check the Cygnus web site.  It clearly
>>states the address and the process.  See:
>>
>>   http://sourceware.cygnus.com/cygwin/lists.html
>>
>>For example, people looking to get off the cygwin list should send mail to
>>cygwin-unsubscribe@sourceware.cygnus.com.

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Re: unsubscribe

[Charles Wilson]

Although I agree with your sentiment, Chris, I think you picked the wrong target.
I did not find Simon's post to be a bad-humored rant at all. (Off-topic - well,
probably so, yes) Truthfully, I thought he expressed a good idea - and rather
than whining about some problem, he proposed a solution. That's what the
open-source community is all about, right?

--Chuck

Christopher Faylor wrote:

> Actually, you have seen very few unsubscribe messages in the last few
> years because the previous mailing list software was set up to do pretty
> much what you describe.
>
> As should be painfully obvious, we are still in the process of tweaking
> the new mailing list software.  We didn't get everything exactly right
> in our first attempt.
>
> Also, you're responding to a thread that died out almost a week ago.
>
> Personally, I find these little bad-humored, off-topic rants much more
> distracting than the occasional 'unsubscribe' message.
>
> YMMV.
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 1999 at 02:23:38PM -0800, Simon Quellen Field wrote:
> >How many times over the past few years have we seen 'unsubscribe'
> >messages?  When that many people can't figure out how to do common
> >operations with a piece of software, maybe it's time to blame the
> >software instead of the people.
> >
> >How difficult can it be to write a list server that looks at the mail it is
> >about to send, checking for content that has nothing but the word
> >'unsubscribe' in it?  Certainly once it has found such a piece of mail,
> >it is not brain surgery to decide not to mail it out to the list, but
> >instead to simply honor the request.
> >
> >Maybe the problem is that the list server was designed to make
> >Multi-Level Marketing easy, (hence the name 'ezmlm'), and people
> >who cater to spammers have a different outlook than a bunch of
> >programmers who donate their time to providing free software to
> >the world.
> >
> >Maybe the next free software project should be a smarter list server.
> >
> >At 03:18 PM 2/4/99 -0500, Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) wrote:
> >>At 11:59 AM 2/4/99 -0800, H. Sawyer Gillespie wrote:
> >>>unsubscribe
> >>>
> >>
> >>Can people PLEASE stop sending their requests for unsubscribing to the list?
> >>The proper way to unsubscribe from the list is to send mail to the LIST
> >>SERVER address, NOT the list address itself.  If you don't know what the
> >>address is that you should send to, check the Cygnus web site.  It clearly
> >>states the address and the process.  See:
> >>
> >>   http://sourceware.cygnus.com/cygwin/lists.html
> >>
> >>For example, people looking to get off the cygwin list should send mail to
> >>cygwin-unsubscribe@sourceware.cygnus.com.
>
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Re: unsubscribe

[Charles Wilson]

Although I agree with your sentiment, Chris, I think you picked the wrong target.
I did not find Simon's post to be a bad-humored rant at all. (Off-topic - well,
probably so, yes) Truthfully, I thought he expressed a good idea - and rather
than whining about some problem, he proposed a solution. That's what the
open-source community is all about, right?

--Chuck

Christopher Faylor wrote:

> Actually, you have seen very few unsubscribe messages in the last few
> years because the previous mailing list software was set up to do pretty
> much what you describe.
>
> As should be painfully obvious, we are still in the process of tweaking
> the new mailing list software.  We didn't get everything exactly right
> in our first attempt.
>
> Also, you're responding to a thread that died out almost a week ago.
>
> Personally, I find these little bad-humored, off-topic rants much more
> distracting than the occasional 'unsubscribe' message.
>
> YMMV.
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 1999 at 02:23:38PM -0800, Simon Quellen Field wrote:
> >How many times over the past few years have we seen 'unsubscribe'
> >messages?  When that many people can't figure out how to do common
> >operations with a piece of software, maybe it's time to blame the
> >software instead of the people.
> >
> >How difficult can it be to write a list server that looks at the mail it is
> >about to send, checking for content that has nothing but the word
> >'unsubscribe' in it?  Certainly once it has found such a piece of mail,
> >it is not brain surgery to decide not to mail it out to the list, but
> >instead to simply honor the request.
> >
> >Maybe the problem is that the list server was designed to make
> >Multi-Level Marketing easy, (hence the name 'ezmlm'), and people
> >who cater to spammers have a different outlook than a bunch of
> >programmers who donate their time to providing free software to
> >the world.
> >
> >Maybe the next free software project should be a smarter list server.
> >
> >At 03:18 PM 2/4/99 -0500, Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) wrote:
> >>At 11:59 AM 2/4/99 -0800, H. Sawyer Gillespie wrote:
> >>>unsubscribe
> >>>
> >>
> >>Can people PLEASE stop sending their requests for unsubscribing to the list?
> >>The proper way to unsubscribe from the list is to send mail to the LIST
> >>SERVER address, NOT the list address itself.  If you don't know what the
> >>address is that you should send to, check the Cygnus web site.  It clearly
> >>states the address and the process.  See:
> >>
> >>   http://sourceware.cygnus.com/cygwin/lists.html
> >>
> >>For example, people looking to get off the cygwin list should send mail to
> >>cygwin-unsubscribe@sourceware.cygnus.com.
>
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Re: unsubscribe

[Christopher Faylor]

Actually, you have seen very few unsubscribe messages in the last few
years because the previous mailing list software was set up to do pretty
much what you describe.

As should be painfully obvious, we are still in the process of tweaking
the new mailing list software.  We didn't get everything exactly right
in our first attempt.

Also, you're responding to a thread that died out almost a week ago.

Personally, I find these little bad-humored, off-topic rants much more
distracting than the occasional 'unsubscribe' message.

YMMV.

On Wed, Feb 10, 1999 at 02:23:38PM -0800, Simon Quellen Field wrote:
>How many times over the past few years have we seen 'unsubscribe'
>messages?  When that many people can't figure out how to do common
>operations with a piece of software, maybe it's time to blame the
>software instead of the people.
>
>How difficult can it be to write a list server that looks at the mail it is
>about to send, checking for content that has nothing but the word
>'unsubscribe' in it?  Certainly once it has found such a piece of mail,
>it is not brain surgery to decide not to mail it out to the list, but
>instead to simply honor the request.
>
>Maybe the problem is that the list server was designed to make
>Multi-Level Marketing easy, (hence the name 'ezmlm'), and people
>who cater to spammers have a different outlook than a bunch of
>programmers who donate their time to providing free software to
>the world.
>
>Maybe the next free software project should be a smarter list server.
>
>At 03:18 PM 2/4/99 -0500, Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) wrote:
>>At 11:59 AM 2/4/99 -0800, H. Sawyer Gillespie wrote:
>>>unsubscribe
>>>
>>
>>Can people PLEASE stop sending their requests for unsubscribing to the list?
>>The proper way to unsubscribe from the list is to send mail to the LIST 
>>SERVER address, NOT the list address itself.  If you don't know what the
>>address is that you should send to, check the Cygnus web site.  It clearly
>>states the address and the process.  See:
>>
>>   http://sourceware.cygnus.com/cygwin/lists.html
>>
>>For example, people looking to get off the cygwin list should send mail to
>>cygwin-unsubscribe@sourceware.cygnus.com.

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RE: unsubscribe

[Simon Quellen Field]

How many times over the past few years have we seen 'unsubscribe'
messages?  When that many people can't figure out how to do common
operations with a piece of software, maybe it's time to blame the
software instead of the people.

How difficult can it be to write a list server that looks at the mail it is
about to send, checking for content that has nothing but the word
'unsubscribe' in it?  Certainly once it has found such a piece of mail,
it is not brain surgery to decide not to mail it out to the list, but
instead to simply honor the request.

Maybe the problem is that the list server was designed to make
Multi-Level Marketing easy, (hence the name 'ezmlm'), and people
who cater to spammers have a different outlook than a bunch of
programmers who donate their time to providing free software to
the world.

Maybe the next free software project should be a smarter list server.




At 03:18 PM 2/4/99 -0500, Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) wrote:
>At 11:59 AM 2/4/99 -0800, H. Sawyer Gillespie wrote:
>>unsubscribe
>>
>
>Can people PLEASE stop sending their requests for unsubscribing to the list?
>The proper way to unsubscribe from the list is to send mail to the LIST 
>SERVER address, NOT the list address itself.  If you don't know what the
>address is that you should send to, check the Cygnus web site.  It clearly
>states the address and the process.  See:
>
>   http://sourceware.cygnus.com/cygwin/lists.html
>
>For example, people looking to get off the cygwin list should send mail to
>cygwin-unsubscribe@sourceware.cygnus.com.
>
>TIA,
>
>
>Larry Hall                             lhall@rfk.com
>RFK Partners, Inc.                     (781) 239-1053
>8 Grove Street                         (781) 239-1655
>Wellesley, MA, 02482-7797              http://www.rfk.com
> 


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RE: unsubscribe

[Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)]

At 11:59 AM 2/4/99 -0800, H. Sawyer Gillespie wrote:
>unsubscribe
>

Can people PLEASE stop sending their requests for unsubscribing to the list?
The proper way to unsubscribe from the list is to send mail to the LIST 
SERVER address, NOT the list address itself.  If you don't know what the
address is that you should send to, check the Cygnus web site.  It clearly
states the address and the process.  See:

   http://sourceware.cygnus.com/cygwin/lists.html

For example, people looking to get off the cygwin list should send mail to
cygwin-unsubscribe@sourceware.cygnus.com.

TIA,


Larry Hall                             lhall@rfk.com
RFK Partners, Inc.                     (781) 239-1053
8 Grove Street                         (781) 239-1655
Wellesley, MA, 02482-7797              http://www.rfk.com

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Re: OpenGL and glut with B20.1

[Suhaib M. Siddiqi]

Brian Kasper last week sent me a set of Mesa 3.0 libraries for
Cygwin-B-20.
He did a really good job in porting Mesa to Cygwin-B20.

You can find precompiled LessTif 0.87 at
ftp://ftp.lesstif.org/pub/hungry/lesstif/bindir for
Cygnus-B-20.  I compiled them.  LessTif organization requested to
redistribute them
through LessTif ftp server instead of a third party site.  The Cygnus
precompiled version in that
archive is missing libXlt.a and libXlt.dll.  If you need Xlt port for
Cygnus-B20, let me know and I will
send it to you.  Beware, it is a 1.78 MB big file.

Suhaib




----- Original Message -----
From: Levon Saldamli <levon@lysator.liu.se>
To: <gnu-win32@cygnus.com>
Sent: Monday, February 01, 1999 6:39 PM
Subject: OpenGL and glut with B20.1


>
>I'd like to use OpenGL and glut with cygwin32 B20.1, possibly together
>with lesstif. What OpenGL and glut libraries and include files should
>I use to make it work? I've tried different set of files without
>success, and I feel I didn't find the most update versions (found in
>mailing list archive at cygnus). I'd appreciate some links to
>information and/or download places for this.
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>--
>/Levon Saldamli
>-
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Re: OpenGL and glut with B20.1

[Levon Saldamli]

> Brian Kasper last week sent me a set of Mesa 3.0 libraries for
> Cygwin-B-20.
> He did a really good job in porting Mesa to Cygwin-B20.

Where can I find these libraries?

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