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From: Bernard Dautrevaux <DAUTREVAUX@microprocess.com>
To: "'DJ Delorie'" <dj@delorie.com>, Ssiddiqi@InspirePharm.Com
Cc: cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com
Subject: RE: Cygwin participation threshold
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 23:02:00 -0000	[thread overview]
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: DJ Delorie [ mailto:dj@delorie.com ]
> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 1999 7:36 PM
> To: Ssiddiqi@InspirePharm.Com
> Cc: cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com
> Subject: Re: Cygwin participation threshold
> 
> 
> 
> > Does the GPL applies to GNUPro, which is distributed for commercial
> > use?
> 
> GNUPro is made up of a number of components with a number of licensing
> terms, just like djgpp is.  Those parts that are copyrighted by
> authors other than Cygnus, like gcc, must be distributed under the
> terms the author supplied, in this case the GPL.  Cygnus can do
> nothing about that.
> 
> However, Cygnus is the author of some of those parts (like I'm the
> author of djgpp's libc) and can choose alternate terms for alternate
> distributions.  For example, our C runtime and cygwin runtimes were
> written by us, so we can decide that they're GPL for this release, and
> proprietary for that release.  If you purchase a GNUPro distribution
> from us, it comes with the same software as a net release (except it's
> been QAd, may have some as-yet-unreleased improvements over the net
> release, and is supported by Cygnus) but we use a different license
> that lets you use our runtimes in proprietary applications.  It just
> isn't practical to provide source code for cell phones :) The 
> fees from
> these sales are the primary source of funding for the software, and
> thus pay for the net releases.
> 

So if I understand you corectly, if I *pay* it may be interesting for me
to contribute *pro-bono* to the net release? perhaps I'll negociate
discounts on my payments against my contributions? :-) 

Seriously I effectively remember having noted that I may get a cygwin
release not covered by the GPL against a fee (the one thing I don't know
is "how much?"); however I think it's quite discouraging to see Cygnus,
known to be able to earn its life with free software due to its
excellent support to its high-grade customers (I think I remember
support contracts with Cygnus were quite expensive), shift to a purely
mercantile strategy: If you pay, you'll get the right to earn some money
and to use some proprietary Cygnus code and corrections that may never
be put in the net release...

Too bad for free software fate :-( or *please* explain me that I'm plain
wrong and that Cygnus is not doing anything like that...

Best regards,

		Bernard

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             reply	other threads:[~1999-02-28 23:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-02-26  0:26 Bernard Dautrevaux [this message]
     [not found] ` < 8135911A809AD211AF6300A02480D175034922@iis000.microdata.fr >
1999-02-26  8:40   ` DJ Delorie
1999-02-28 23:02     ` DJ Delorie
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Bernard Dautrevaux
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1999-02-28 16:22 Christopher G. Faylor
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Christopher G. Faylor
1999-02-25 10:24 Suhaib M. Siddiqi
     [not found] ` < 004c01be60ee$09a84c20$29acdfd0@InspirePharm.Com >
1999-02-25 10:36   ` DJ Delorie
1999-02-28 23:02     ` DJ Delorie
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Suhaib M. Siddiqi
1999-02-25 10:09 Bernard Dautrevaux
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Bernard Dautrevaux
1999-02-24 13:43 Ken Thompson
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Ken Thompson
1999-02-24 10:55 Steve Morris
     [not found] ` < 199902241855.NAA16459@brocade.nexen.com >
1999-02-24 12:40   ` Christopher Faylor
1999-02-24 13:13     ` Re[2]: " Paul Sokolovsky
     [not found]       ` < 2965.990224@is.lg.ua >
1999-02-24 13:21         ` Christopher Faylor
     [not found]           ` < 19990224162212.A27405@cygnus.com >
1999-02-25 22:51             ` Geoffrey Noer
     [not found]               ` < 19990225225149.A1388@cygnus.com >
1999-02-26  7:26                 ` Larry Hall
1999-02-28 23:02                   ` Larry Hall
1999-02-28 23:02               ` Geoffrey Noer
1999-02-28 23:02           ` Christopher Faylor
     [not found]     ` < 19990224154034.E26668@cygnus.com >
1999-02-24 13:50       ` DJ Delorie
1999-02-28 23:02         ` DJ Delorie
1999-02-26  8:27       ` Steve Morris
     [not found]         ` < 199902261627.LAA18993@brocade.nexen.com >
1999-02-27  7:49           ` Todd Goodman
1999-02-28 23:02             ` Todd Goodman
1999-02-28 23:02         ` Steve Morris
1999-02-26  8:55       ` Steve Morris
1999-02-28 23:02         ` Steve Morris
1999-02-28 23:02     ` Christopher Faylor
1999-02-24 12:46 ` Re[2]: " Paul Sokolovsky
     [not found]   ` < 15947.990224@is.lg.ua >
1999-02-24 13:28     ` Christopher Faylor
     [not found]       ` < 19990224162911.A27461@cygnus.com >
1999-02-24 14:16         ` Mumit Khan
1999-02-28 23:02           ` Mumit Khan
1999-02-28 23:02       ` Christopher Faylor
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Steve Morris
1999-02-22 20:54 Tom St Denis
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Tom St Denis
1999-02-22 13:00 Suhaib M. Siddiqi
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Suhaib M. Siddiqi
1999-02-22  9:10 Suhaib M. Siddiqi
     [not found] ` < 008401be5e87$f1dcd510$29acdfd0@InspirePharm.Com >
1999-02-22 11:38   ` DJ Delorie
1999-02-28 23:02     ` DJ Delorie
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Suhaib M. Siddiqi
1999-02-19  6:36 Cygwin B20 - fseek under gcc fails to reposition on text files Christopher Faylor
1999-02-22  3:26 ` Re[2]: " Paul Sokolovsky
     [not found]   ` < 13561.990222@is.lg.ua >
1999-02-22  8:55     ` Cygwin participation threshold DJ Delorie
     [not found]       ` < 199902221654.LAA07362@envy.delorie.com >
1999-02-22 10:33         ` Carl Zmola
     [not found]           ` < 19990222183222023.AAA254@carl_zmola >
1999-02-22 11:21             ` Fergus Henderson
1999-02-28 23:02               ` Fergus Henderson
1999-02-22 12:32             ` DJ Delorie
1999-02-28 23:02               ` DJ Delorie
1999-02-24  0:08             ` Christopher Faylor
     [not found]               ` < 19990223214848.A23525@cygnus.com >
1999-02-24  5:51                 ` Fergus Henderson
     [not found]                   ` < 19990225005148.53402@mundook.cs.mu.OZ.AU >
1999-02-24  9:18                     ` Christopher Faylor
1999-02-24 19:23                       ` Weiqi Gao
     [not found]                         ` < 36D4C298.32C1C355@a.crl.com >
1999-02-25  0:23                           ` Fergus Henderson
1999-02-25  6:01                             ` Weiqi Gao
1999-02-28 23:02                               ` Weiqi Gao
1999-02-28 23:02                             ` Fergus Henderson
1999-02-28 23:02                         ` Weiqi Gao
     [not found]                       ` < 19990224121846.A25762@cygnus.com >
1999-02-25  0:14                         ` Fergus Henderson
     [not found]                           ` < 19990225191420.16813@mundook.cs.mu.OZ.AU >
1999-02-25  1:00                             ` Lam Pui Yuen
     [not found]                               ` < Pine.BSI.3.95.990225170005.16688A-100000@topaz.hknet.com >
1999-02-25  1:09                                 ` Lam Pui Yuen
1999-02-28 23:02                                   ` Lam Pui Yuen
1999-02-28 23:02                               ` Lam Pui Yuen
1999-02-28 23:02                           ` Fergus Henderson
1999-02-28 23:02                       ` Christopher Faylor
1999-02-28 23:02                   ` Fergus Henderson
1999-02-24 10:37                 ` Carl Zmola
     [not found]                   ` < 19990224183738302.AAA218@carl_zmola >
1999-02-24 10:44                     ` Christopher Faylor
     [not found]                       ` < 19990224134450.B26262@cygnus.com >
1999-02-24 10:48                         ` Carl Zmola
1999-02-28 23:02                           ` Carl Zmola
1999-02-28 23:02                       ` Christopher Faylor
1999-02-28 23:02                   ` Carl Zmola
1999-02-28 23:02               ` Christopher Faylor
1999-02-28 23:02           ` Carl Zmola
1999-02-28 23:02       ` DJ Delorie

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