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* RE: [Q:] Has Mail Delivery Changed?
@ 1999-02-09  2:37 Simon Fear
  1999-02-28 23:02 ` Simon Fear
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Simon Fear @ 1999-02-09  2:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 'Simon Kissane'; +Cc: 'gnu-win32@cygnus.com'

I never thought I would find myself extolling the virtues of a MS
product, but using Outlook you can set a rule to search the (whole)
header for the string 'cygnus' which has caught everything sent so far
...

Simon F


-----Original Message-----
From: Simon Kissane [ mailto:jilba@tig.com.au ]
Sent: 09 February 1999 10:28
To: gnu-win32@cygnus.com
Subject: Re: [Q:] Has Mail Delivery Changed?




"David M. Smith" wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Until recently all the mail from this group was filtered on the
> "Sender:" field to a specific pseudo newsgroup by my mail / news
> program.  About a week ago all the traffic started appearing in my
> general mailbox, hiding less frequent personal stuff (I read the list
> stuff in chunks when I have the time, not when it arrives).  None of
> the mail has a "Sender:" field and the mail seems to be routed via
various
> personal aliases for the list server in the "CC:" field.  I have tried
> to construct a new filtering rule but there are too many permutations.
> 
> Has anyone else noticed this change and does anyone know why it has
just
> started?  How do I send questions like this to the list administrator?
I've noticed the same problem... its really annoying me. But until I got
this message, I thought they'd just changed all the messages to be CCed
to cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com...

If what you say is true, this is going to be real annoying...
might as well unsubscribe...


> Regards,
> David
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> 
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* RE: [Q:] Has Mail Delivery Changed?
@ 1999-02-10  7:03 Oelke, Dan
  1999-02-28 23:02 ` Oelke, Dan
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Oelke, Dan @ 1999-02-10  7:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: gnu-win32

Oh - if it were only a matter of having to compile up a mailer - I'd be
in heaven.  But, we only have an Exchange server for company email, and
everyone expects you to send/receive Outlook style calendar things as
well as Word attachments.  You'd swear that people had never heard of
just using straight ASCII..... <sigh>

Hence my need to get a separate IMAP/POP account outside the company so
that I can get a real mailer and filtering capabilities, etc.....

Dan
 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Jan Nieuwenhuizen [SMTP:jan@magna-carta.com]
> Sent:	Wednesday, February 10, 1999 3:21 AM
> To:	doelke@opticalsolutions.com
> Cc:	gnu-win32@cygnus.com
> Subject:	Re: [Q:] Has Mail Delivery Changed? 
> 
> On Tuesday, 9 February 1999, doelke@opticalsolutions.com writes:
> 
> [..]
> 
> > As for Outlook scanning the entire header - not Outlook 97
> > that I am using on NT.  It's filtering capabilities suck.
> > I really need to find me a Unix home on the net someplace
> > that I can connect via IMAP to.......
> 
> There are various usix mailers that'll compile+work on NT 
> (with cygnus' gnu-windows package).
> When I started this new job, my only option was Outlook97, 
> which almost drove me mad.  It has silly bugs, almost every
> preset is at the wrong value by default, and you can only
> read your mail in a proportional font (afaik).
> 
> Now i'm using (n)mh, with pop/smtp (not local sendmail) and 
> slocal filtering (haven't got mh-e got to work, though).
> (Guess what, you can filter on strings in the header fields
> too, just like with ms's great program.  Amazing, no?)
> 
> Jan.
> 
> Jan Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@gnu.org> | GNU LilyPond - The music
> typesetter
> http://www.xs4all.nl/~jantien/      | http://www.lilypond.org/
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* RE: [Q:] Has Mail Delivery Changed?
@ 1999-02-09  7:11 Oelke, Dan
       [not found] ` < C59D5C0A3D3FD21192BA00A0C9DDB6A8012EA8@bemidji >
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From: Oelke, Dan @ 1999-02-09  7:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: gnu-win32

A list management program must put in a Sender field to 
really be RFC-822 compliant. And, mail delivery systems 
must use that field for handling bounces.   Unfortunately, 
CCmail and Exchange gateways are very often do not use
the Sender field. <sigh> but that is another whole battle.

Can someone at cygnus who has control over the new
list management software please configure it to put in 
a Sender: field.  If nothing else, a formail filter can put
one in for you quite nicely, but I am guessing that this 
new software package you are using should be able to 
do it.  If you want - I can quote page and section of 822
that requires it.  God knows I've done that to enough 
postmasters for CCmail systems ;-)

As for Outlook scanning the entire header - not Outlook 97
that I am using on NT.  It's filtering capabilities suck.  
I really need to find me a Unix home on the net someplace
that I can connect via IMAP to.......

Thanks,
Dan



> -----Original Message-----
> From:	David M. Smith [SMTP:david.smith@home-free.demon.co.uk]
> Sent:	Tuesday, February 09, 1999 7:02 AM
> To:	gnu-win32@cygnus.com
> Subject:	Re: [Q:] Has Mail Delivery Changed?
> 
> In article < 36C01829.DD20B1F2@upf.es >, Walter Garcia-Fontes
> <wgarcia@upf.es> writes
> >The change is of course due to the fact that they have changed the
> >listserver. I check now for "sourceware.cygnus.com" in the To: and
> CC:
> >fields and filter the mail as well as before (using procmail). You
> still
> >have to keep your old rules since some people keep sending to
> >gnu-win32@cygnus.com (also check this in To: and CC:).
> >
> >Including a Sender: field may be useful, though, so if people at
> Cygnus
> >could program the listserver  to include a Sender: or Owner: field,
> >filtering the mail would be easier.
> 
> Someone kindly forwarded me the announcement that this was going to
> happen.  I looked through my list database and I had not received it
> directly!  I have not attached it as I am sure most of you will have
> seen it.
> 
> The new list server does seem to put "Sender:" in the header of some
> messages, but I am definitely getting stuff without it.  As I said
> these
> messages seem to have custom aliases in the "CC:" field.  I have
> modified my rules to suit the new list software and will keep
> monitoring
> the stray ones for a suitable pattern.
> 
> Thanks for the help.
> 
> Regards,
> David
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* [Q:] Has Mail Delivery Changed?
@ 1999-02-09  2:05 David M. Smith
  1999-02-09  2:28 ` Simon Kissane
  1999-02-28 23:02 ` David M. Smith
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: David M. Smith @ 1999-02-09  2:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: gnu-win32

Hi,

Until recently all the mail from this group was filtered on the
"Sender:" field to a specific pseudo newsgroup by my mail / news
program.  About a week ago all the traffic started appearing in my
general mailbox, hiding less frequent personal stuff (I read the list
stuff in chunks when I have the time, not when it arrives).  None of the
mail has a "Sender:" field and the mail seems to be routed via various
personal aliases for the list server in the "CC:" field.  I have tried
to construct a new filtering rule but there are too many permutations.

Has anyone else noticed this change and does anyone know why it has just
started?  How do I send questions like this to the list administrator?

Regards,
David
-- 
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1999-02-09  9:34   ` Henry J. Cobb
1999-02-10  1:22   ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
1999-02-28 23:02     ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
1999-02-09  2:05 David M. Smith
1999-02-09  2:28 ` Simon Kissane
1999-02-09  3:11   ` Walter Garcia-Fontes
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1999-02-09  5:54       ` David M. Smith
1999-02-28 23:02         ` David M. Smith
1999-02-28 23:02     ` Walter Garcia-Fontes
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1999-02-09  8:25     ` Chris Savage
1999-02-28 23:02   ` Simon Kissane
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