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From: Steve Morris <smorris@nexen.com>
To: DJ Delorie <dj@delorie.com>
Cc: smorris@nexen.com, cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com
Subject: Re: Cygwin license
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 16:43:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <199903170043.TAA12533@brocade.nexen.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: < 199903162315.SAA17599@envy.delorie.com >

DJ Delorie writes:
 > 
 > > There has to be a way of legally allowing people to give binaries away
 > > while still charging the people selling commercial packages.
 > 
 > What's the difference?  Just cost?

Specifically it should be possible for people to legally provide a
service of compiling to binaries software that people already have a
legal right to use. It is silly that Andy Piper, Earnie, Sergey et al
are in technical violation of cygwin licensing terms when they are
merely saving the rest of us time and effort.

 > >From a license point of view, we can certainly add whatever extra
 > exceptions we want, or even write a whole new one.  However, at the
 > moment, the license is GPL, so that's what we all have to abide by.

We agree on everything except the interpretation of the GPL under the
laws of the US. However that is a separate issue which I personally
would be happy to drop having no vested interest in the
conversation. I only insist on not being misinterpreted. I don't care
if anyone agrees. That's what makes a horse race interesting.




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From: Steve Morris <smorris@nexen.com>
To: DJ Delorie <dj@delorie.com>
Cc: smorris@nexen.com, cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com
Subject: Re: Cygwin license
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 19:45:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <199903170043.TAA12533@brocade.nexen.com> (raw)
Message-ID: <19990331194500.iXJA_rT0cI5_HDMLfeXLuXcrlVcmIrzOh2V_Y00dPjg@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <199903162315.SAA17599@envy.delorie.com>

DJ Delorie writes:
 > 
 > > There has to be a way of legally allowing people to give binaries away
 > > while still charging the people selling commercial packages.
 > 
 > What's the difference?  Just cost?

Specifically it should be possible for people to legally provide a
service of compiling to binaries software that people already have a
legal right to use. It is silly that Andy Piper, Earnie, Sergey et al
are in technical violation of cygwin licensing terms when they are
merely saving the rest of us time and effort.

 > >From a license point of view, we can certainly add whatever extra
 > exceptions we want, or even write a whole new one.  However, at the
 > moment, the license is GPL, so that's what we all have to abide by.

We agree on everything except the interpretation of the GPL under the
laws of the US. However that is a separate issue which I personally
would be happy to drop having no vested interest in the
conversation. I only insist on not being misinterpreted. I don't care
if anyone agrees. That's what makes a horse race interesting.




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  parent reply	other threads:[~1999-03-16 16:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-03-16  4:59 Earnie Boyd
     [not found] ` < 19990316130132.20506.rocketmail@send105.yahoomail.com >
1999-03-16  7:41   ` Chris Faylor
     [not found]     ` < 19990316104140.A1113@cygnus.com >
1999-03-16  9:57       ` Steve Morris
     [not found]         ` < 199903161757.MAA12041@brocade.nexen.com >
1999-03-16 12:21           ` DJ Delorie
     [not found]             ` < 199903162021.PAA20648@envy.delorie.com >
1999-03-16 14:01               ` Fergus Henderson
1999-03-16 14:11                 ` Greg Miller
1999-03-31 19:45                   ` Greg Miller
     [not found]                 ` < 19990317090106.27622@mundook.cs.mu.OZ.AU >
1999-03-16 15:00                   ` Steve Morris
     [not found]                     ` < 199903162300.SAA12402@brocade.nexen.com >
1999-03-16 15:15                       ` DJ Delorie
     [not found]                         ` < 199903162315.SAA17599@envy.delorie.com >
1999-03-16 16:43                           ` Steve Morris [this message]
     [not found]                             ` < 199903170043.TAA12533@brocade.nexen.com >
1999-03-16 17:04                               ` DJ Delorie
     [not found]                                 ` < 199903170104.UAA18337@envy.delorie.com >
1999-03-17  9:15                                   ` Steve Morris
1999-03-31 19:45                                     ` Steve Morris
1999-03-31 19:45                                 ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-31 19:45                             ` Steve Morris
1999-03-31 19:45                         ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-16 16:38                       ` Cygwin license -- Please let this thread die Chris Faylor
1999-03-31 19:45                         ` Chris Faylor
1999-03-31 19:45                     ` Cygwin license Steve Morris
1999-03-31 19:45                 ` Fergus Henderson
     [not found]             ` <199903162234.RAA12379@brocade.nexen.com>
     [not found]               ` <199903162245.RAA17348@envy.delorie.com>
1999-03-16 16:30                 ` Steve Morris
     [not found]                   ` < 199903170029.TAA12499@brocade.nexen.com >
1999-03-16 16:44                     ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-31 19:45                       ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-31 19:45                   ` Steve Morris
1999-03-31 19:45             ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-16 14:14           ` Chris Faylor
1999-03-31 19:45             ` Chris Faylor
1999-03-31 19:45         ` Steve Morris
1999-03-31 19:45     ` Chris Faylor
1999-03-31 19:45 ` Earnie Boyd
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-04-02  0:37 Dmitri Dmitrienko
2003-04-02  1:55 ` cygwin license Christopher Faylor
2003-04-02 12:44   ` Ehud Karni
2003-04-02 15:31     ` Randall R Schulz
2003-04-02 20:30       ` Christopher Faylor
2003-04-02 20:46         ` Randall R Schulz
2003-04-02 21:38           ` Igor Pechtchanski
     [not found]           ` <Pine.GSO.4.44.0304021633370.21921-100000@slinky.cs.nyu.edu >
2003-04-02 21:46             ` Randall R Schulz
2003-04-03  4:27           ` Charles Wilson
2003-04-03  4:33             ` Igor Pechtchanski
2003-04-03  4:51             ` Randall R Schulz
2003-04-03 14:23               ` Christopher Faylor
2002-02-01  9:30 Info
2002-02-01  9:44 ` Peter Buckley
2000-05-22 16:51 Cygwin library Zia Sarkeshik
2000-05-23  5:38 ` Cygwin license Thomas.Wolff
2000-05-23  6:22   ` DJ Delorie
2000-05-23  6:35     ` Chris Faylor
1999-03-22  0:01 Kevin.Hughes
1999-03-31 19:45 ` Kevin.Hughes
1999-03-18 23:12 Bernard Dautrevaux
     [not found] ` < 8135911A809AD211AF6300A02480D175034935@iis000.microdata.fr >
1999-03-19  7:16   ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-19  8:41     ` Bartlee Anderson
1999-03-31 19:45       ` Bartlee Anderson
     [not found]     ` < 199903191516.KAA00938@envy.delorie.com >
1999-03-19  8:57       ` Steve Morris
     [not found]         ` < 199903191657.LAA14989@brocade.nexen.com >
1999-03-19  9:41           ` Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)
1999-03-31 19:45             ` Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)
1999-03-31 19:45         ` Steve Morris
1999-03-31 19:45     ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-31 19:45 ` Bernard Dautrevaux
1999-03-18 10:41 Bernard Dautrevaux
     [not found] ` < 8135911A809AD211AF6300A02480D175034934@iis000.microdata.fr >
1999-03-18 11:33   ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-31 19:45     ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-18 11:36 ` Charles Wilson
     [not found]   ` < 36F155AF.3841C83F@ece.gatech.edu >
1999-03-18 11:47     ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-31 19:45       ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-31 19:45   ` Charles Wilson
1999-03-31 19:45 ` Bernard Dautrevaux
1999-03-17 10:45 Earnie Boyd
1999-03-31 19:45 ` Earnie Boyd
1999-03-17 10:30 Suhaib M. Siddiqi
1999-03-31 19:45 ` Suhaib M. Siddiqi
1999-03-17 10:23 Earnie Boyd
     [not found] ` < 19990317182325.13786.rocketmail@send106.yahoomail.com >
1999-03-17 10:29   ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-31 19:45     ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-17 11:03   ` Steve Morris
1999-03-31 19:45     ` Steve Morris
1999-03-31 19:45 ` Earnie Boyd
1999-03-16 16:27 Earnie Boyd
1999-03-31 19:45 ` Earnie Boyd
1999-03-14 23:24 gernot
     [not found] ` < 990315072308.3841@cse.unsw.edu.au >
1999-03-15  6:04   ` DJ Delorie
     [not found]     ` < 199903151403.JAA05958@envy.delorie.com >
1999-03-16  2:42       ` Gernot Heiser
1999-03-16  9:04         ` Bartlee Anderson
     [not found]           ` < 36EE7A7E.DA38DE04@ec.rockwell.com >
1999-03-16 14:19             ` Chris Faylor
1999-03-31 19:45               ` Chris Faylor
1999-03-31 19:45           ` Bartlee Anderson
1999-03-31 19:45         ` Gernot Heiser
1999-03-31 19:45     ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-31 19:45 ` gernot

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