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From: Sebastien Barre <Sebastien.Barre@utc.fr>
To: cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com
Subject: [HELP] stat(), file permission, r/w access : i'm LOST :(
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 19:45:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4.1.19990301211226.016b1250@mail.club-internet.fr> (raw)
Message-ID: <19990331194500.uO2hE9_tcSsmYLOb-bjfoGeGOyvBGuSU1s-psnqgviA@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990301145716.017379b0@mail.club-internet.fr>

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Dear cygwin people

As some of you might have noticed (sorry for the flood), I'm still trying
to arbitrate The Fight between Perl 5.002 and cygwin32-B20.1 (the
battlefield being NT4/SP4). Well, thanks to some of you, I nearly did it
(and also ruined a couple of nights), but a strange problem lead me to some
more confusion :

Problem : although I'm working as single user on a standalone workstation,
and always logged as sysadmin ("administrateur" in french), cygwin seems to
see/create the files on my hard disk as *not* belonging to me, but to
another "being" (which is not obvious to me). 

I'll do my best to describe it (it's really *easy* to observe) : let's have
a look at a simple Perl example, then a short C example with stat(), and my
/etc/passwd and /etc/group. Finally I will create a simple file with
'touch', and you will notice that it will be reported as NOT belonging to
me and not being writable :((

Note : this seems specific to NT, which is not surprising regarding file
permissions.


Perl example :
----------------------

Note : I created /etc/passwd and /etc/group with 'mkpasswd -l' and 'mkgroup
-l' respectively, as reported in many FAQS.

administrateur [26] /etc$ perl -e 'print "yes" if -w "group";'

administrateur [27] /etc$ ll
total 7
-rw-r--r--   1 544 Aucun          27 Feb 26 02:45 group
-rw-r--r--   1 544 Aucun         65 Mar  1 21:08 passwd
-rw-r--r--   1 544 Aucun        9828 Dec  1 14:00 termcap

That command (-w) will display 'yes' if the file (here, /etc/group) is
writable. Apparently, it fails. And fails everywhere in my filesystem. The
'-w' command is using C<stat>, let's move on :


C example :
----------------------
#include <sys/stat.h>
#include <stdlib.h>

int main() {
    struct stat mystat;

    stat("group", &mystat);

    printf("mode : %o, uid : %u, gid : %u\n", 
           mystat.st_mode, mystat.st_uid, mystat.st_gid);

    exit(0);
}

Run :

administrateur [52] /etc$ gcc mystat.c

administrateur [53] /etc$ a.exe
mode : 100644, uid : 544, gid : 513

administrateur [55] /etc$ ll group
-rw-r--r--   1 544 Aucun          27 Feb 26 02:45 group

Which means : 
	- /etc/group belongs to user which UID is 544, and to group which GID is 513
	- it's a regular file (100000), 
	- read/write permission to owner (600), read permission to group (40) and
read to other (4).

BUT (and it drives me crazy). I CREATED that file, and I'm NOT user 544 !
(more about this strange fellow below).

administrateur [56] /etc$ whoami
administrateur

administrateur [74] /etc$ cat passwd
Administrateur::500:513:seb::/bin/sh
InvitÚ::501:513:::/bin/sh

administrateur [75] /etc$ cat group
Aucun::513:
Everyone::0:

Obviously, I'm user 500 (I changed my name to 'seb' so that to check). 
=> Therefore WHY are all files created as 544 (even with tar) ? (the group
is correct : 513).

I thought it was related to /etc/passwd, but I just do NOT UNDERSTAND the
difference between -l and -g option for 'mkpasswd'.

   -l,--local              print local accounts
   -g,--local-groups       print local group information too

administrateur [77] /etc$ mkpasswd -l
Administrateur::500:513:seb::/bin/sh
InvitÚ::501:513:::/bin/sh

administrateur [79] /etc$ mkpasswd -g
Administrateurs::544:0:::
Duplicateurs::552:0:::
InvitÚs::546:0:::
OpÚrateurs de sauvegarde::551:0:::
Utilisateurs::545:0:::
Utilisateurs avec pouvoir::547:0:::

=> who are these users ?!? these should be groups !! I'm belonging to the
"Administrateurs" group for NT (in the "Gestionnaire d'utilisateurs" ~=
"User manager"), and this has been translated to a user, I'm completely
lost :((

=> dumping 'mkpasswd -l -g' to /etc/passwd (instead of 'mkpasswd -l') did
NOT help.

Here is the same joke :

administrateur [84] /etc$ touch test

administrateur [85] /etc$ ll test
-rw-r--r--   1 544      Aucun           0 Mar  1 21:46 test

administrateur [86] /etc$ perl -e 'print "yes" if -w "test";'
administrateur [87] /etc$

WOAH : I created a file, and it's automatically assigned to someone else !
Give me my file back please :( 
And of course, although I created it, it's now NOT writable for cygwin.


I guess I might be just dumb. Any help would be really appreciated (by my
mental health).

Thanks






______________________________________________________________
Sebastien Barre                  http://www.hds.utc.fr/~barre/

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  reply	other threads:[~1999-03-31 19:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-02-28 16:22 Cygwin participation threshold Christopher G. Faylor
     [not found] ` < 199903010022.QAA07416@rtl.cygnus.com >
1999-02-28 17:52   ` mySQL, mSQL, PostgreSQL with cygwin ? Sebastien Barre
1999-02-28 23:02     ` Sebastien Barre
1999-02-28 23:02     ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-01  6:09       ` Sebastien Barre
     [not found]         ` < 4.1.19990301145716.017379b0@mail.club-internet.fr >
1999-03-01 13:28           ` Sebastien Barre [this message]
     [not found]             ` < 4.1.19990301211226.016b1250@mail.club-internet.fr >
1999-03-01 13:42               ` [HELP] stat(), file permission, r/w access : i'm LOST :( Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)
     [not found]                 ` < 3.0.3.32.19990301163809.00994e00@pop.ma.ultranet.com >
1999-03-01 14:34                   ` Sebastien Barre
     [not found]                     ` < 4.1.19990301232226.01717350@mail.club-internet.fr >
1999-03-01 14:47                       ` Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)
     [not found]                         ` < 3.0.3.32.19990301174320.0098ad30@pop.ma.ultranet.com >
1999-03-02  1:02                           ` Sebastien Barre
1999-03-02  3:26                             ` Heinz-Jürgen Oertel
1999-03-31 19:45                               ` Heinz-Jürgen Oertel
     [not found]                             ` < 4.1.19990302094806.016bc410@mail.club-internet.fr >
1999-03-02 23:55                               ` Geoffrey Noer
1999-03-31 19:45                                 ` Geoffrey Noer
1999-03-31 19:45                             ` Sebastien Barre
1999-03-02  3:04                           ` Lassi A. Tuura
1999-03-31 19:45                             ` Lassi A. Tuura
1999-03-06  2:49                           ` Sebastien Barre
     [not found]                             ` < 4.1.19990305214515.016caba0@mail.club-internet.fr >
1999-03-06 11:04                               ` Larry Hall
1999-03-31 19:45                                 ` Larry Hall
1999-03-31 19:45                             ` Sebastien Barre
1999-03-31 19:45                         ` Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)
1999-03-31 19:45                     ` Sebastien Barre
1999-03-31 19:45                 ` Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)
1999-03-01 13:55             ` John Fortin
     [not found]               ` < 36DB0B4F.8FC8757@ibm.net >
1999-03-01 14:33                 ` Sebastien Barre
     [not found]                   ` < 4.1.19990301232512.01714e60@mail.club-internet.fr >
1999-03-01 14:39                     ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-31 19:45                       ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-31 19:45                   ` Sebastien Barre
1999-03-31 19:45               ` John Fortin
1999-03-31 19:45             ` Sebastien Barre
1999-03-07  9:11         ` mySQL, mSQL, PostgreSQL with cygwin ? Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45           ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45         ` Sebastien Barre
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Cygwin participation threshold Christopher G. Faylor

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