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From: Earnie Boyd <earnie_boyd@yahoo.com>
To: cygwin users <cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com>
Subject: RE: cat broken
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 10:56:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <19990624175704.27192.rocketmail@web126.yahoomail.com> (raw)

--- John Wiersba <John.Wiersba@medstat.com> wrote:
> Phil:  OK, I see what you're saying now.
> 
> What I was talking about was a duplicate echo.  Not the normal echoing of
> characters which you can turn on and off with stty, but a *second* copy of
> the line you just typed which is echoed immediately after pressing the ENTER
> key.
> 
> cat > file
> this is a test. (ENTER pressed here)
> this is a test.
> please stop repeating what I say (ENTER pressed here)
> please stop repeating what I say
> ...
> 
> cat is broken in the 5/23 release, fixed in the 1/16 and 6/10 releases (I
> don't know why).
> 

Let's restate this:  It isn't cat that is broken but the terminal emulation
within the cygwin dll.

> Regarding those "trace thingies":
> 
> The problem is that I'm experimenting with different versions of the
> cygwin1.dll to see if I can find one which fixes some of the more serious
> bugs without introducing new bugs.  For example, the 5/23 dll fixes the
> "find command broken across mounts" bug but breaks cat in the process.  I
> guess that's what's meant by a "stable" release -- a release which
> introduces very few new bugs of its own while fixing a substantial number of
> the bugs in previous releases.  

"Stable release"?  Well all of the snapshots are ALPHA untested releases.  If a
user suggests that he is using a particular snapshot without much headache it
doesn't mean that there aren't bugs.

> 
> If I'm experimenting with every version of the dll after 5/23, trying to
> find one which fixes the problems I'm experiencing, it's a real pain to have
> to unpack the inst archive, too.  I was hoping someone could tell me: "The
> version released on, e.g. 6/10, fixes most of the reported bugs that have
> been fixed so far and ***has not been reported to have introduced any
> serious new bugs***".  Then I could grab that version of the dll and the
> inst archive and spend the time to install them with reasonable confidence
> that I'll have a working system when I'm done ("working" means "with all the
> goodies which have worked in the past but without major new bugs").
> 

If you're "experimenting" then you'd better have a "test plan" and a means of
"fallback".  NOTE: the cygwin-inst only contains binaries of importance to the
maintenance and testing of the cygwin1.dll environment.  Such things as mount,
umount, cygwin1.dll, cygcheck, etc. and doesn't contain a full installation of
pre-built binaries.  The reason is that since the functions called from the
cygwin1.dll are dynamic, then the binaries which use those functions don't need
to be rebuilt to use the modified functions.  Therefore, IMO, the "trace
thingies" are not a result of incompatibility between libraries and binaries;
but, merely an inconvenient bug.



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From: Earnie Boyd <earnie_boyd@yahoo.com>
To: cygwin users <cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com>
Subject: RE: cat broken
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 22:10:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <19990624175704.27192.rocketmail@web126.yahoomail.com> (raw)
Message-ID: <19990630221000.2yBRHjoJ7waWDOH0cAuXq-6KSkRU4hpwH6DDhbdRlA8@z> (raw)

--- John Wiersba <John.Wiersba@medstat.com> wrote:
> Phil:  OK, I see what you're saying now.
> 
> What I was talking about was a duplicate echo.  Not the normal echoing of
> characters which you can turn on and off with stty, but a *second* copy of
> the line you just typed which is echoed immediately after pressing the ENTER
> key.
> 
> cat > file
> this is a test. (ENTER pressed here)
> this is a test.
> please stop repeating what I say (ENTER pressed here)
> please stop repeating what I say
> ...
> 
> cat is broken in the 5/23 release, fixed in the 1/16 and 6/10 releases (I
> don't know why).
> 

Let's restate this:  It isn't cat that is broken but the terminal emulation
within the cygwin dll.

> Regarding those "trace thingies":
> 
> The problem is that I'm experimenting with different versions of the
> cygwin1.dll to see if I can find one which fixes some of the more serious
> bugs without introducing new bugs.  For example, the 5/23 dll fixes the
> "find command broken across mounts" bug but breaks cat in the process.  I
> guess that's what's meant by a "stable" release -- a release which
> introduces very few new bugs of its own while fixing a substantial number of
> the bugs in previous releases.  

"Stable release"?  Well all of the snapshots are ALPHA untested releases.  If a
user suggests that he is using a particular snapshot without much headache it
doesn't mean that there aren't bugs.

> 
> If I'm experimenting with every version of the dll after 5/23, trying to
> find one which fixes the problems I'm experiencing, it's a real pain to have
> to unpack the inst archive, too.  I was hoping someone could tell me: "The
> version released on, e.g. 6/10, fixes most of the reported bugs that have
> been fixed so far and ***has not been reported to have introduced any
> serious new bugs***".  Then I could grab that version of the dll and the
> inst archive and spend the time to install them with reasonable confidence
> that I'll have a working system when I'm done ("working" means "with all the
> goodies which have worked in the past but without major new bugs").
> 

If you're "experimenting" then you'd better have a "test plan" and a means of
"fallback".  NOTE: the cygwin-inst only contains binaries of importance to the
maintenance and testing of the cygwin1.dll environment.  Such things as mount,
umount, cygwin1.dll, cygcheck, etc. and doesn't contain a full installation of
pre-built binaries.  The reason is that since the functions called from the
cygwin1.dll are dynamic, then the binaries which use those functions don't need
to be rebuilt to use the modified functions.  Therefore, IMO, the "trace
thingies" are not a result of incompatibility between libraries and binaries;
but, merely an inconvenient bug.



===
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             reply	other threads:[~1999-06-24 10:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-06-24 10:56 Earnie Boyd [this message]
1999-06-30 22:10 ` Earnie Boyd
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1999-06-24 15:57 John Wiersba
1999-06-30 22:10 ` John Wiersba
1999-06-24 12:03 John Wiersba
1999-06-24 12:11 ` Chris Faylor
1999-06-30 22:10   ` Chris Faylor
1999-06-30 22:10 ` John Wiersba
1999-06-24 10:00 John Wiersba
1999-06-30 22:10 ` John Wiersba
1999-06-24  9:37 Phil Edwards
1999-06-30 22:10 ` Phil Edwards
1999-06-24  8:18 John Wiersba
1999-06-24  8:29 ` Dr. Volker Zell
1999-06-30 22:10   ` Dr. Volker Zell
1999-06-24 11:51 ` Chris Faylor
1999-06-30 22:10   ` Chris Faylor
1999-06-30 22:10 ` John Wiersba
1999-06-23 15:47 John Wiersba
1999-06-30 22:10 ` John Wiersba
1999-06-23 14:52 Phil Edwards
1999-06-30 22:10 ` Phil Edwards
1999-06-23 12:42 John Wiersba
1999-06-24  0:49 ` Dr. Volker Zell
1999-06-30 22:10   ` Dr. Volker Zell
1999-06-30 22:10 ` John Wiersba

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