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From: Brian Inglis <Brian.Inglis@SystematicSw.ab.ca>
To: cygwin@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: SSL not required for setup.exe download
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 19:42:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1b570593-0ec7-0890-26ef-7e7468534f47@SystematicSw.ab.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANSoFxtLzGgcOhrsu4h0eXXnpezB6v17cGwOrqy6SjSvJ__gLA@mail.gmail.com>

On 2019-03-11 07:43, Archie Cobbs wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 10:51 PM Brian Inglis wrote:
>>>>> Is there any reason not to force this redirect and close this security hole?
>> There are apparently reasons not to force this redirect as it can also cause a
>> security hole.
> That's really interesting. Can you provide more detail?

Search for HTTP HTTPS redirection SSL stripping MitM attack

>>>> The whole sourceware.org site include cygwin.com uses HSTS which compliant
>>>> supporting clients can use to switch to communicating over HTTPS.
>>>> Clients which are not compliant or don't support HTTPS may still download the
>>>> programs and files.
>>> I don't see how HSTS solves the particular issue that I'm referring to.
>> HSTS redirects requests from port 80 to 443 (HTTPS).
> Not for me. Well, actually I'm getting inconsistent results...
> On Mac OS X, neither Firefox, Chrome nor Safari will redirect to SSL.
> On an old Windows 7 system, neither IE 8 (no surprise there) or Chrome
> redirects.
> However, with Chrome, it does not redirect at first, but once I've
> manually entered https://www.cygwin.com it seems to "realize" that a
> secure site exists, and after that it starts redirecting to SSL.
> I can revert that behavior by clearing the cache.
> So it seems in the case of Chrome, it has to be "taught" about the
> existence of the secure site... which of course takes us right back to
> the original problem.

Some sites, proxies, and CDNs respond with

	HTTP/1.0 302 Found

and redirects to HTTPS:443 followed by the HTTP header.

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-03-11 19:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-10  4:54 Archie Cobbs
2019-03-10 13:35 ` Andrey Repin
2019-03-10 16:35   ` Archie Cobbs
2019-03-10 14:16 ` Brian Inglis
2019-03-10 16:40   ` Archie Cobbs
2019-03-11  3:51     ` Brian Inglis
2019-03-11  5:16       ` Mark Geisert
2019-03-11 11:50         ` Brian Inglis
2019-03-11 13:13         ` SSL should not be " L A Walsh
2019-03-11 13:44       ` SSL not " Archie Cobbs
2019-03-11 19:42         ` Brian Inglis [this message]
2019-03-11 22:14           ` Archie Cobbs
2019-03-11 22:59             ` Lee
2019-03-12 13:47               ` Archie Cobbs
2019-03-12 14:31                 ` Brian Inglis
2019-03-12 14:58                   ` Archie Cobbs
2019-03-15 12:25                     ` Brian Inglis
2019-03-28 18:13                       ` Erik Soderquist
2019-03-12 19:21                 ` Achim Gratz
2019-03-12 19:59                 ` Lee
2019-03-12  0:20             ` Andrey Repin
2019-03-12 19:45               ` Lee
2019-03-12 20:35                 ` Andrey Repin
2019-03-12 21:14                   ` Lee
2019-03-12 21:35                     ` Andrey Repin
2019-03-12 22:01                       ` Lee
2019-03-12 20:42                 ` Achim Gratz
2019-03-12 21:32                   ` Lee
2019-03-12 21:35                 ` Andrey Repin
2019-03-12 21:50                   ` Lee
2019-03-13 20:50                     ` Andrey Repin
2019-03-11 20:24         ` SSL should not be required for open source downloading L A Walsh
2019-03-10 14:16 ` SSL not required for setup.exe download Brian Inglis
2019-03-10 23:20   ` L A Walsh
2019-03-11  3:53     ` Archie Cobbs
2019-03-11 13:13       ` Brian Inglis
2019-03-11 13:22       ` L A Walsh
2019-03-11 13:39         ` L A Walsh

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