Tcl/Tk

Tcl/Tk

[Jorge Andreu García]

Where can I find a Tcl/Tk version compatible with cygwin? I have heard
that the last one (8.x) are not compatible.

Thanks:

JORGE

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Re: Tcl/Tk

[Chris Faylor]

On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 12:52:56AM +0200, Jorge Andreu Garc?a wrote:
>Where can I find a Tcl/Tk version compatible with cygwin? I have heard
>that the last one (8.x) are not compatible.

The cygwin web site would be a really good place to start.

Look in one of the mirrors for the source.

cgf

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versions/compatibilities FAQ request

[David M Dennis]

The following would make exceptionally useful FAQ topics as I have not been able
to run down answers from any existing cygwin site I can locate...


The install version is 1.1, does that render prior versions incompatible

does that include DLL 1.1.4

how does DLL 1.1.4 which one sees downloadable separately sometimes, differ from
install cygwin 1.1 ?

is B20 compatible with either DLL 1.1.4 or install version 1.1.  If not should
one stay off of B20 sites entirely.  Is it possible to back out of v1.1 to B20
if one needs to in order to run a third part compile binary or are all binaries
of B20 capable of installing on 1.1 ?

What rpm or other command would be useful to determine what version of cygwin is
running.

does cygwin32, CYGWIN_98-4.10 and cygwin refer to different install versions or
compatible systems.  cygwin32 is it 1.1, or B20.  CYGWIN_98-4.10 is it B20 or
1.1 .  

Is mks Toolkit install capable of installing on same machine as cygwin ?


thanks,

-dave dennis
dmd@speakeasy.org

On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Chris Faylor wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 12:52:56AM +0200, Jorge Andreu Garc?a wrote:
> >Where can I find a Tcl/Tk version compatible with cygwin? I have heard
> >that the last one (8.x) are not compatible.
> 
> The cygwin web site would be a really good place to start.
> 
> Look in one of the mirrors for the source.
> 
> cgf
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Re: versions/compatibilities FAQ request

[DJ Delorie]

I'll take a shot at some of these...

> The install version is 1.1, does that render prior versions incompatible

You should be able to run old programs with a new cygwin installation,
but of course we recommend upgrading everything if you have the CDROM
or B19 or B20.

> does that include DLL 1.1.4

It includes a 1.1.<something> DLL, with the current <something> being
"4" at the moment.

> how does DLL 1.1.4 which one sees downloadable separately sometimes,
> differ from install cygwin 1.1 ?

The cygwin "dll" is part of the cygwin "package" in a cygwin
"install".  Just like the cc1.exe "file" is part of the gcc "package"
in a cygwin "install".

With the new net release and setup program, packages can be upgraded
independently of each other.

> is B20 compatible with either DLL 1.1.4 or install version 1.1.  If not should
> one stay off of B20 sites entirely.  Is it possible to back out of v1.1 to B20
> if one needs to in order to run a third part compile binary or are all binaries
> of B20 capable of installing on 1.1 ?

You should be able to run B20-aware programs with 1.1.  We almost
never recommend reverting to a beta.

> What rpm or other command would be useful to determine what version
> of cygwin is running.

Either "uname -a" in a cygwin window (the third field), or use the
standard Windows "properties" option in explorer (the version tab).
Or, "grep %%% cygwin1.dll" ;-)

> does cygwin32, CYGWIN_98-4.10 and cygwin refer to different install versions or
> compatible systems.  cygwin32 is it 1.1, or B20.  CYGWIN_98-4.10 is it B20 or
> 1.1 .  

We don't use the name "cygwin32" any more, for legal reasons.  It's
"cygwin" now.  The CYGWIN_* version is the version of *windows* you're
running, not the version of *cygwin*.  You are running Windows 98
version 4.10.

> Is mks Toolkit install capable of installing on same machine as cygwin ?

Sure.  The cygwin shortcuts set up the path, so the two shouldn't
conflict.

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Re: versions/compatibilities FAQ request

[Chris Faylor]

On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 07:49:34PM -0400, DJ Delorie wrote:
>I'll take a shot at some of these...
>
>>The install version is 1.1, does that render prior versions
>>incompatible
>
>You should be able to run old programs with a new cygwin installation,
>but of course we recommend upgrading everything if you have the CDROM
>or B19 or B20.

Actually newer versions of the Cygwin DLL will work with Cygwin 1.1.3,
1.1.2, 1.1.1, 1.0, and B20.1.  This is reverse chronological order.
None of the above versions will correctly interoperate with B19.

>> does that include DLL 1.1.4
>
>It includes a 1.1.<something> DLL, with the current <something> being
>"4" at the moment.
>
>> how does DLL 1.1.4 which one sees downloadable separately sometimes,
>> differ from install cygwin 1.1 ?
>
>The cygwin "dll" is part of the cygwin "package" in a cygwin
>"install".  Just like the cc1.exe "file" is part of the gcc "package"
>in a cygwin "install".

Is there actually a Cygwin reference 1.1 somewhere?  I always refer to
it as 1.1.x for precisely this reason.  Dropping the extra digit seems
to confuse people.

>>is B20 compatible with either DLL 1.1.4 or install version 1.1.  If not
>>should one stay off of B20 sites entirely.  Is it possible to back out
>>of v1.1 to B20 if one needs to in order to run a third part compile
>>binary or are all binaries of B20 capable of installing on 1.1 ?
>
>You should be able to run B20-aware programs with 1.1.  We almost never
>recommend reverting to a beta.

If you can't run a "B20" .exe with the 1.1.4 DLL then you've found a bug
in Cygwin 1.1.4.  Report it and we'll try to fix it.

cgf

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Re: versions/compatibilities FAQ request

[DJ Delorie]

> >The cygwin "dll" is part of the cygwin "package" in a cygwin
> >"install".  Just like the cc1.exe "file" is part of the gcc "package"
> >in a cygwin "install".
> 
> Is there actually a Cygwin reference 1.1 somewhere?  I always refer to
> it as 1.1.x for precisely this reason.  Dropping the extra digit seems
> to confuse people.

The shortcut in the start menu, for starters.  Should we change it?
If so, to what?

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Re: versions/compatibilities FAQ request

[Chris Faylor]

On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 08:39:12PM -0400, DJ Delorie wrote:
>>>The cygwin "dll" is part of the cygwin "package" in a cygwin "install".
>>>Just like the cc1.exe "file" is part of the gcc "package" in a cygwin
>>>"install".
>>
>>Is there actually a Cygwin reference 1.1 somewhere?  I always refer to
>>it as 1.1.x for precisely this reason.  Dropping the extra digit seems
>>to confuse people.
>
>The shortcut in the start menu, for starters.  Should we change it?  If
>so, to what?

I'd suggest 1.1.x.  I actually changed it to this in later versions of
the non-GUI installer.  It used to be 1.1.0 and that caused problems
so I changed it to 1.1.x.

Hopefully the number of people who think that 'x' denotes something
besides a place-holder will be less than the number of people who
think that 1.1 != 1.1.4.

cgf

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Re: versions/compatibilities FAQ request

[Don Sharp]

David M Dennis wrote:
> 
> The following would make exceptionally useful FAQ topics as I have not been able
> to run down answers from any existing cygwin site I can locate...
> 
> The install version is 1.1, does that render prior versions incompatible
> 
> does that include DLL 1.1.4
> 
> how does DLL 1.1.4 which one sees downloadable separately sometimes, differ from
> install cygwin 1.1 ?
> 
> is B20 compatible with either DLL 1.1.4 or install version 1.1.  If not should
> one stay off of B20 sites entirely.  Is it possible to back out of v1.1 to B20
> if one needs to in order to run a third part compile binary or are all binaries
> of B20 capable of installing on 1.1 ?
> 
> What rpm or other command would be useful to determine what version of cygwin is
> running.
> 
> does cygwin32, CYGWIN_98-4.10 and cygwin refer to different install versions or
> compatible systems.  cygwin32 is it 1.1, or B20.  CYGWIN_98-4.10 is it B20 or
> 1.1 .
> 
> Is mks Toolkit install capable of installing on same machine as cygwin ?
> 
> thanks,

I can confirm that I run both MKS and Cygwin on the same NT4SP6a machine
with
no problems for several years.

Cheers

Don Sharp

> 
> -dave dennis
> dmd@speakeasy.org
> 
> On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Chris Faylor wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 12:52:56AM +0200, Jorge Andreu Garc?a wrote:
> > >Where can I find a Tcl/Tk version compatible with cygwin? I have heard
> > >that the last one (8.x) are not compatible.
> >
> > The cygwin web site would be a really good place to start.
> >
> > Look in one of the mirrors for the source.
> >
> > cgf
> >
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Re: versions/compatibilities FAQ request

[David M Dennis]

It broke out of the box on my Win 98 second edition desktop.

The sequence was to install cygwin, then to install mks toolkit.

All the file ownership cygwin had immediately went to mks, and it took
control of other functionality as well.  cygwin was broken and not until i
uninstalled mks toolkit did things return.  Nothing else was
installed/uninstalled in the interim, which only took about 3 hrs to give up on
mks toolkit, since the one I have license for is only the admin level and has no
compile tools.

I'd prove it over again but have grown rather fond of the cygwin install and
don't want to risk its breaking on this my only computer at present.  I might
inherit an NT box shortly, will try this sequence there.

On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Don Sharp wrote:

> 
> 
> David M Dennis wrote:
> > 
> > The following would make exceptionally useful FAQ topics as I have not been able
> > to run down answers from any existing cygwin site I can locate...
> > 
> > The install version is 1.1, does that render prior versions incompatible
> > 
> > does that include DLL 1.1.4
> > 
> > how does DLL 1.1.4 which one sees downloadable separately sometimes, differ from
> > install cygwin 1.1 ?
> > 
> > is B20 compatible with either DLL 1.1.4 or install version 1.1.  If not should
> > one stay off of B20 sites entirely.  Is it possible to back out of v1.1 to B20
> > if one needs to in order to run a third part compile binary or are all binaries
> > of B20 capable of installing on 1.1 ?
> > 
> > What rpm or other command would be useful to determine what version of cygwin is
> > running.
> > 
> > does cygwin32, CYGWIN_98-4.10 and cygwin refer to different install versions or
> > compatible systems.  cygwin32 is it 1.1, or B20.  CYGWIN_98-4.10 is it B20 or
> > 1.1 .
> > 
> > Is mks Toolkit install capable of installing on same machine as cygwin ?
> > 
> > thanks,
> 
> I can confirm that I run both MKS and Cygwin on the same NT4SP6a machine
> with
> no problems for several years.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Don Sharp
> 
> > 
> > -dave dennis
> > dmd@speakeasy.org
> > 
> > On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Chris Faylor wrote:
> > 
> > > On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 12:52:56AM +0200, Jorge Andreu Garc?a wrote:
> > > >Where can I find a Tcl/Tk version compatible with cygwin? I have heard
> > > >that the last one (8.x) are not compatible.
> > >
> > > The cygwin web site would be a really good place to start.
> > >
> > > Look in one of the mirrors for the source.
> > >
> > > cgf
> > >
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Re: versions/compatibilities FAQ request

[Don Sharp]

David M Dennis wrote:
> 
> It broke out of the box on my Win 98 second edition desktop.
> 
> The sequence was to install cygwin, then to install mks toolkit.
> 

My MKS toolkit was installed first. I also have tools from virtunix.
Although
I have to be careful with PATH in the two environments, I am still
regularly using both environments and some of the virtunix tools.

Hope you succeed in having coexisting environments.

Cheers

Don Sharp

> All the file ownership cygwin had immediately went to mks, and it took
> control of other functionality as well.  cygwin was broken and not until i
> uninstalled mks toolkit did things return.  Nothing else was
> installed/uninstalled in the interim, which only took about 3 hrs to give up on
> mks toolkit, since the one I have license for is only the admin level and has no
> compile tools.
> 
> I'd prove it over again but have grown rather fond of the cygwin install and
> don't want to risk its breaking on this my only computer at present.  I might
> inherit an NT box shortly, will try this sequence there.
> 
> On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Don Sharp wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > David M Dennis wrote:
> > >
> > > The following would make exceptionally useful FAQ topics as I have not been able
> > > to run down answers from any existing cygwin site I can locate...
> > >
> > > The install version is 1.1, does that render prior versions incompatible
> > >
> > > does that include DLL 1.1.4
> > >
> > > how does DLL 1.1.4 which one sees downloadable separately sometimes, differ from
> > > install cygwin 1.1 ?
> > >
> > > is B20 compatible with either DLL 1.1.4 or install version 1.1.  If not should
> > > one stay off of B20 sites entirely.  Is it possible to back out of v1.1 to B20
> > > if one needs to in order to run a third part compile binary or are all binaries
> > > of B20 capable of installing on 1.1 ?
> > >
> > > What rpm or other command would be useful to determine what version of cygwin is
> > > running.
> > >
> > > does cygwin32, CYGWIN_98-4.10 and cygwin refer to different install versions or
> > > compatible systems.  cygwin32 is it 1.1, or B20.  CYGWIN_98-4.10 is it B20 or
> > > 1.1 .
> > >
> > > Is mks Toolkit install capable of installing on same machine as cygwin ?
> > >
> > > thanks,
> >
> > I can confirm that I run both MKS and Cygwin on the same NT4SP6a machine
> > with
> > no problems for several years.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Don Sharp
> >
> > >
> > > -dave dennis
> > > dmd@speakeasy.org
> > >
> > > On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Chris Faylor wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 12:52:56AM +0200, Jorge Andreu Garc?a wrote:
> > > > >Where can I find a Tcl/Tk version compatible with cygwin? I have heard
> > > > >that the last one (8.x) are not compatible.
> > > >
> > > > The cygwin web site would be a really good place to start.
> > > >
> > > > Look in one of the mirrors for the source.
> > > >
> > > > cgf
> > > >
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Tcl/Tk

[Jean Barata]

Hello,

do someone know who is the maintainer of the TCL/TK package, and if there is
somewhere a document explaining how to install, configure and use it ?

Thanks

Jean Barata - SOFTEAM


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Re: Tcl/Tk

[Bob McGowan]

Web searching found the following:
  http://tcl.activestate.com/
and
  http://dev.scriptics.com/

Jean Barata wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> do someone know who is the maintainer of the TCL/TK package, and if there is
> somewhere a document explaining how to install, configure and use it ?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Jean Barata - SOFTEAM
> 
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Re: TCL/TK

[Jeffrey Juliano]

this belongs on the cygwin mailing list, not the cygwin-xfree list.  I'm
replying there, too.


On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, Mike MacDonald wrote:

> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 17:21:34 -0500
> From: Mike MacDonald <mmacdona@tsi.gte.com>
> To: "'cygwin-xfree@sourceware.cygnus.com'"
    <cygwin-xfree@sourceware.cygnus.com>
> Subject: TCL/TK
> 
> 
Anyone built tcl/tk under cygwin that displays back in X?
> 

search the cygwin archives at http://www.delorie.com/archives/

You can try this search string:      tcl +X +libraries


perhaps this helps?
http://www.delorie.com/archives/browse.cgi?p=cygwin/1999/05/17/10:36:49

-jeff



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Re: TCL/TK

[Jeffrey Juliano]

this belongs on the cygwin mailing list, not the cygwin-xfree list.  I'm
replying there, too.


On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, Mike MacDonald wrote:

> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 17:21:34 -0500
> From: Mike MacDonald <mmacdona@tsi.gte.com>
> To: "'cygwin-xfree@sourceware.cygnus.com'"
    <cygwin-xfree@sourceware.cygnus.com>
> Subject: TCL/TK
> 
> 
Anyone built tcl/tk under cygwin that displays back in X?
> 

search the cygwin archives at http://www.delorie.com/archives/

You can try this search string:      tcl +X +libraries


perhaps this helps?
http://www.delorie.com/archives/browse.cgi?p=cygwin/1999/05/17/10:36:49

-jeff



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Re: Tcl/Tk

[Geza Groma]

> I try to compile a DLX simulator called dlxview. It need
> the tcl/tk lib for linking. How can I convert the tcl76.dll
> and tk74.dll into lib.

A good tool is makelib from
ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/gnu/djgpp/rsxntdj1.zip.
I might make the correct lib itself, but I have never tried that. Instead  
I used the --print flag to list the exported functions, made a .def 
file and used dlltools in a standard way to bild the lib.

> I try the tcl/tk soruce code, it is so hard
> make it work.

True. Especially, it includes the 'try' extended C keyword not 
supported by gcc. However, for pure tcl/tk applications you don't need this. 
The precompiled dlls could work with gnu-win32 with a proper memory allocation 
manegement.  For detailes, read the Windows specific FAQ at
ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/efjohnson/tclwin.htm.
Recompiling the dlls by MSVC, Symantec C++  (or perhaps Borland C++ 
v5.0) apparently eliminates any memory allocation problems.

>in the gnu-win32 package, it there a errno.h ? and is the package
>support a command called XSynchronize, if so, which library I should
>link to?

Hm. If XSyncronize is required by dlxview itself, not just by tk, this 
probably indicates that this is not a pure tcl/tk application but an 
X11 client. I am not familiar with X11, but worry that the Win32 
native tcl/tk dlls can not be simple linked to it. Check tclPort.h 
and tkPort.h and try to build a real Unix port of tcl/tk...

Good luck
Geza Groma

Tcl/Tk

[Henry]

Hi everyone, I am new to here and need some help.

I try to compile a DLX simulator called dlxview. It need
the tcl/tk lib for linking. How can I convert the tcl76.dll
and tk74.dll into lib. I try the tcl/tk soruce code, it is so hard
make it work.
also,
in the gnu-win32 package, it there a errno.h ? and is the package
support a command called XSynchronize, if so, which library I should
link to?

thanks a lot.

Henry
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