RE: Using German Umlauts with bash

RE: Using German Umlauts with bash

[lw]

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 >I'm using the latest cygwin 1.1.6 for Windows NT 4.0 SP5 and i have installed it with the latest
 >setup.exe.
 >
 >What must i do so bash can display correctly the German umlauts like äöüÄÖÜß if they
 >occur in filenames?

I have version 1.1.7 installed. All umlauts display ok with this version.

 >What to do so i can type German umlauts on the bash-command-line?

Don't know, this does not work yet.
IMO you should avoid using umlauts in filenames. This often
causes problems, not only concerning cygwin...

 >Another key i wish to work was the 'del'-key: It should delete to right. Backspace correctly deletes
 >to left.

I created a file '.inputrc' in my home directory which contains
the following one line, beginning at row 1:

"\e[3~": delete-char

After restarting bash now, the [Del]-key works perfectly.

 >Is there any description or manual how to configure such things?

I found the [Del]-key stuff in the mail archives, for example.
http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin

schöne Grüße nach München

- Lars


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Re: AW: Using German Umlauts with bash

[Gerrit P. Haase]

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Klaus, Lars,

> 
> lw@SPAHIS /usr/local/test
> $ ls --version
> ls (GNU fileutils) 3.16
> -----------------------------------------------------------------

Hmmm,
$ ls --version
ls (GNU fileutils) 4.0
                  ^^^^^  maybe a bug?

> The same happens on my Win98 PC.
> Did you perhaps type "ls -n" instead of "ls -N" ?

No.

> Just an experiment: type "ls -b" and see if the "funny chars" are
> quoted then.
> 
> lw@SPAHIS /usr/local/test
> $ ls -lb
> total 0
> -rw-r--r--   1 lw       Kein            0 Jan  4 22:38 test-\344\366\374\337
> 
> Bei mir funzts, Gerrit... ;-)

Hmmm,

$ ls -b
siebenschlaefer  \330\322\300\330\301\300\322\330

$ ls -lb
total 4
drwxrwxrwx   8 administ Administ   8192 Jan  4 06:58 siebenschlaefer
- -rwxrwxrwx   1 administ Administ      9 Jan  4 23:48 \330\322\300\330\301\300\322\330

$ ls -N
siebenschlaefer  ????????

$ ls -lN
total 4
drwxrwxrwx   8 administ Administ     8192 Jan  4 23:52 siebenschlaefer
- -rwxrwxrwx   1 administ Administ        9 Jan  4 23:48 ????????

Lars, what do you got for settings in .inputrc?
And what relevant is in .bashrc?

Ciao,

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Re: AW: Using German Umlauts with bash

[Christopher Abbey]

Tomorrow, Gerrit P. Haase wrote:
> $ ls -N
> siebenschlaefer  ????????

Check what font you're using for the window, and/or the console
codepage depending on how you're starting bash. The best test
I've found to date is to start a raw command / cmd shell and
make sure you can display the characters with dir, then run cygwin.bat
in that shell and ls -N al of a sudden worked. :) For me it was the
font... but if all you get is '?' it might be the codepage.

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Re: Using German Umlauts with bash

[Gerrit P. Haase]

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<5 Jan 2001, 0:00 Uhr wars, als Christopher Abbey folgendes schrub:>
< Re: AW: Using German Umlauts with b >

> Tomorrow, Gerrit P. Haase wrote:
> > $ ls -N
> > siebenschlaefer  ????????
>
> Check what font you're using for the window, and/or the console
> codepage depending on how you're starting bash. The best test
> I've found to date is to start a raw command / cmd shell and
> make sure you can display the characters with dir, then run cygwin.bat
> in that shell and ls -N al of a sudden worked. :) For me it was the
> font... but if all you get is '?' it might be the codepage.
>

No, we got it, fileutils (ls) 4.0 is different, with new options.

 ls --show-control-chars

this is a new one, and with this option it works fine:)

$ ls --show-control-chars
siebenschlaefer  üöäÜÅÄÖÜ

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AW: Using German Umlauts with bash

[klaus.berndl]

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> I have version 1.1.7 installed. All umlauts display ok with 
> this version.

Ok, i have installed latest Cygwin 1.1.7 and i have created a ~/.inputrc
with the following contents:

set meta-flag on
set convert-meta off
set output-meta on
#set show-all-if-ambiguous on

I have found this in the mailing-archive and it works well for typing
German umlauts. Now i can do

"touch This-Is-A-File-With-One-Umlaut-ä" (last character is the German "a)

Ok, if i then type

"more This-Is-<TAB>"

means i do TAB-completion then bash expands correct to 
"more This-Is-A-File-With-One-Umlaut-ä"

But if i do an "ls" or an "ls -lA" in this directory the dir-list is displayed

...
-rw-r--r-- 1 administ Kein  0 Jan  2 10:43 This-Is-A-File-With-One-Ulaut-?
...

Please note the ? instead of the correct ä (German "a).

What can/must i do so "ls" (and maybe other tools/commands) also displays the
German umlauts correct.

For example less displays the German umlauts if i do "export LESSCHARSET=latin1".
Is there maybe something similar for bash?

> 
>  >What to do so i can type German umlauts on the bash-command-line?
> 
> Don't know, this does not work yet.

Yes, this works, look above to the ~./inputrc

> IMO you should avoid using umlauts in filenames. This often
> causes problems, not only concerning cygwin...

Yes, i agree but often i must read foreign files and directories...

Thanks,
Klaus

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Re: Using German Umlauts with bash

[Gerrit P. Haase]

<2 Jan 2001, 11:48 Uhr wars, als klaus.berndl@sdm.de folgendes schrub:>
< AW: Using German Umlauts with bash >

> > I have version 1.1.7 installed. All umlauts display ok with 
> > this version.
> 
> Ok, i have installed latest Cygwin 1.1.7 and i have created a ~/.inputrc
> with the following contents:
> 
> set meta-flag on
> set convert-meta off
> set output-meta on
> #set show-all-if-ambiguous on

$ perl -MCPAN -e shell
Warning [/home/siebenschlaefer/.inputrc line 2]:
  Invalid value `on' for variable `meta-flag'.
  Choose from [On Off].
Warning [/home/siebenschlaefer/.inputrc line 3]:
  Invalid value `off' for variable `convert-meta'.
  Choose from [On Off].
Warning [/home/siebenschlaefer/.inputrc line 4]:
  Invalid value `on' for variable `output-meta'.
  Choose from [On Off].

I don't know, if it makes a differenc, but cases should be different in 
sight of perl.

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Using German Umlauts with bash

[klaus.berndl]

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I´m using the latest cygwin 1.1.6 for Windows NT 4.0 SP5 and i have installed it with the latest
setup.exe.

What must i do so bash can display correctly the German umlauts like äöüÄÖÜß if they
occur in filenames?
What to do so i can type German umlauts on the bash-command-line?

Another key i wish to work was the 'del'-key: It should delete to right. Backspace correctly deletes
to left.

Is there any description or manual how to configure such things?

Many thanks in advance,
Klaus




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