passwords

passwords

[Jacek Trzcinski]

Hi !
I have just started utilizing Cygwin 1.1.8-2 under NT 4.0 workstation.
Everything seems to work OK but
what about network configuration. Any clients (ftp,telnet,ssh) to remote
machines work OK. I have problems with deamons. Under session with ssh
client,
both with remote machine and my machine my sshd does not accept any
password.
Any time after typing password I get message "Permission denied, please
try again" what should I do. 
How to configure ftp and telnet deamons so that connection could be
possible.
Still I got messages "unable to connect to remote host. Connection
refused."
And at the and other matter. How should work login. After executing
cygwin
I become the same user as user logged to windows. Loging now even as a
current windows user always fails (incorect password). How should it
work ?
What password changes program passwd ? It does not change,as in Linux
for example, user password.  As I found in sources it changes
user network password but where is it utilized ?
Thank You in advance

Jacek

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Re: passwords

[Corinna Vinschen]

On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 08:40:40AM +0100, Jacek Trzcinski wrote:
> Hi !
> I have just started utilizing Cygwin 1.1.8-2 under NT 4.0 workstation.
> Everything seems to work OK but
> what about network configuration. Any clients (ftp,telnet,ssh) to remote
> machines work OK. I have problems with deamons. Under session with ssh
> client,
> both with remote machine and my machine my sshd does not accept any
> password.
> Any time after typing password I get message "Permission denied, please
> try again" what should I do. 

Read /usr/doc/Cygwin/openssh-2.5.1p2.README.

> How to configure ftp and telnet deamons so that connection could be
> possible.

Read /usr/doc/Cygwin/inetutils-1.3.2.README.

> Still I got messages "unable to connect to remote host. Connection
> refused."
> And at the and other matter. How should work login. After executing
> cygwin
> I become the same user as user logged to windows. Loging now even as a
> current windows user always fails (incorect password). How should it
> work ?

Read /usr/doc/Cygwin/inetutils-1.3.2.README
and  http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/ntsec.html

> What password changes program passwd ? It does not change,as in Linux
> for example, user password.  As I found in sources it changes
> user network password but where is it utilized ?

It changes the password in the NT user datebase. These are used in
Cygwin as well. Therefore you don't need extra passwords in /etc/passwd.

And read http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/using-utils.html#PASSWD

Corinna

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Re: passwords

[Jacek Trzcinski]

Hi !
Thank You for advise. I answered with delay because suggestions covered
in
ssh packet do not work and I have traced Your discussion with Axel
Kowald who seems to have the same problems as me. My last chance is to
utilize advise of Michael Erdely to start sshd in SYSTEM context by
srvany.exe. Until now
I was starting sshd with bash command prompt. It is said to start sshd
by inetd but I suppose inetd do not execute sshd when I try use ssh
client on my local machine. I have proper line in inetd.conf but it does
not work even if
inetd realy starts as service.I suppose inetd deamon does not read
inetd.conf
at all because it starts as a service without any error messages despite
of inetd.conf is present or not or if it has rubish inside. Where is
mistake ?
Aha ! Where can I get srvany.exe ?

Thank You in advance for any response
Jacek

Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 08:40:40AM +0100, Jacek Trzcinski wrote:
> > Hi !
> > I have just started utilizing Cygwin 1.1.8-2 under NT 4.0 workstation.
> > Everything seems to work OK but
> > what about network configuration. Any clients (ftp,telnet,ssh) to remote
> > machines work OK. I have problems with deamons. Under session with ssh
> > client,
> > both with remote machine and my machine my sshd does not accept any
> > password.
> > Any time after typing password I get message "Permission denied, please
> > try again" what should I do.
> 
> Read /usr/doc/Cygwin/openssh-2.5.1p2.README.
> 
> > How to configure ftp and telnet deamons so that connection could be
> > possible.
> 
> Read /usr/doc/Cygwin/inetutils-1.3.2.README.
> 
> > Still I got messages "unable to connect to remote host. Connection
> > refused."
> > And at the and other matter. How should work login. After executing
> > cygwin
> > I become the same user as user logged to windows. Loging now even as a
> > current windows user always fails (incorect password). How should it
> > work ?
> 
> Read /usr/doc/Cygwin/inetutils-1.3.2.README
> and  http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/ntsec.html
> 
> > What password changes program passwd ? It does not change,as in Linux
> > for example, user password.  As I found in sources it changes
> > user network password but where is it utilized ?
> 
> It changes the password in the NT user datebase. These are used in
> Cygwin as well. Therefore you don't need extra passwords in /etc/passwd.
> 
> And read http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/using-utils.html#PASSWD
> 
> Corinna
> 
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Re: passwords

[Corinna Vinschen]

On Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 01:48:12PM +0100, Jacek Trzcinski wrote:
> Hi !
> Thank You for advise. I answered with delay because suggestions covered
> in
> ssh packet do not work and I have traced Your discussion with Axel
> Kowald who seems to have the same problems as me. My last chance is to
> utilize advise of Michael Erdely to start sshd in SYSTEM context by
> srvany.exe. Until now
> I was starting sshd with bash command prompt. It is said to start sshd
> by inetd but I suppose inetd do not execute sshd when I try use ssh
> client on my local machine. I have proper line in inetd.conf but it does
> not work even if
> inetd realy starts as service.I suppose inetd deamon does not read
> inetd.conf
> at all because it starts as a service without any error messages despite
> of inetd.conf is present or not or if it has rubish inside. Where is
> mistake ?

You didn't set it up correctly. I don't know what your mistake is but
it sounds as if you did something basically wrong. You can't start
NT services which are in any way related to user logins without
some basic insight into the NT user management. I can only point you
again to the documentation. Please read it carefully. The problem is,
I really can't hold everybodies hand when installing these services.

Sorry if that sounds harsh. It isn't meant that way. You will have
to debug your problems. Use sshd -d and ssh -v options which will
give you important hints. Did you start ssh-*-config scripts? Did
you start iu-config for the inetutils? Did you check your passwd
file? Is your home directory correctly set up in /etc/passwd?
Etc. etc...

> Aha ! Where can I get srvany.exe ?

It's in the NT resource kit so you should get it on www.microsoft.com.

Corinna

> > Read /usr/doc/Cygwin/openssh-2.5.1p2.README.
> > Read /usr/doc/Cygwin/inetutils-1.3.2.README.
> > and  http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/ntsec.html
> > And read http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/using-utils.html#PASSWD
> > 
> > Corinna

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Re: passwords

[Michael Erdely]

You can also try firedaemon. ( http://www.firedaemon.com/ )

-ME

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Corinna Vinschen" <cygwin@cygwin.com>
To: "cygwin" <cygwin@cygwin.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 8:17 AM
Subject: Re: passwords


<snip> 
> > Aha ! Where can I get srvany.exe ?
> 
> It's in the NT resource kit so you should get it on www.microsoft.com.
> 
> Corinna
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Re: Passwords

[Corinna Vinschen]

On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 11:41:08AM -0500, Earnie Boyd wrote:
> > On NT/W2K the passwords are stored in the NT user database.
> > You can use login.exe only from an account which has the
> > appropriate user rights as described in
> > 
> >         /usr/doc/Cygwin/inetutils-1.3.2.README
> > 
> 
> Perhaps a `ln -s inetutils-1.3.2.README Passwords.README' would help?

Probably...

Ccrinna

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Re: Passwords

[Earnie Boyd]

Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 09:43:58AM -0500, Louis Bohm wrote:
> > Maybe I am not getting it but where is the password stored in
> > /etc/passwd.  Or is it not stored there?
> >
> > I am trying to figure out what password login.exe wants when I
> > telnet in.  If I use passwd to set my passwd I noticed that the
> > passwd file does not get updated nor does it set the passwd so I
> > can use login.exe.
> 
> On NT/W2K the passwords are stored in the NT user database.
> You can use login.exe only from an account which has the
> appropriate user rights as described in
> 
>         /usr/doc/Cygwin/inetutils-1.3.2.README
> 

Perhaps a `ln -s inetutils-1.3.2.README Passwords.README' would help?

Cheers,
Earnie.

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Re: Passwords

[Corinna Vinschen]

On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 09:43:58AM -0500, Louis Bohm wrote:
> Maybe I am not getting it but where is the password stored in
> /etc/passwd.  Or is it not stored there?
> 
> I am trying to figure out what password login.exe wants when I
> telnet in.  If I use passwd to set my passwd I noticed that the
> passwd file does not get updated nor does it set the passwd so I
> can use login.exe.

On NT/W2K the passwords are stored in the NT user database.
You can use login.exe only from an account which has the
appropriate user rights as described in

	/usr/doc/Cygwin/inetutils-1.3.2.README

Corinna

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Passwords

[Louis Bohm]

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Maybe I am not getting it but where is the password stored in
/etc/passwd.  Or is it not stored there?

I am trying to figure out what password login.exe wants when I
telnet in.  If I use passwd to set my passwd I noticed that the
passwd file does not get updated nor does it set the passwd so I
can use login.exe.

Louis

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