* inetd problem on NT
@ 2001-11-11 8:26 Michael Xue
2001-11-11 8:26 ` Corinna Vinschen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Michael Xue @ 2001-11-11 8:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'cygwin@cygwin.com'
I just downloaded and installed the lastest cygwin, set up/ran the inetd according to the inetutils document.
When I trid to telnet to my NT, it failed and the event view says
The description for Event ID ( 0 ) in Source ( inetd ) could not be found. It contains the following insertion string(s): inetd : Win32 Process Id = 0x9F : Cygwin Process Id = 0x9F : /etc/inetd.conf: No such file or directory.
Looks like inetd does not understand the mount points.
Can anyone give me a pointer? Thanks
Here is the output of cygcheck -rs
-Mike
Cygnus Win95/NT Configuration Diagnostics
Current System Time: Fri Nov 16 19:11:29 2001
WinNT Ver 4.0 build 1381 Service Pack 6
Path: /cc/jdk1.3.0_02/bin
/cc/emacs-21.1/bin
/dd/xemacs/bin/i686-pc-cygwin32
/cc/XEmacs/bin/i686-pc-cygwin
/emacs-20.7/bin
/cc
.
c
/home/bin
/cc/Program Files/Microsoft Office/Office/
/usr/local/bin
/usr/bin
/bin
/cc/Program Files/Reflection
/cc/WINNT/system32
/cc/WINNT
/usr/bin
/usr/sbin
/cc/Program Files/Perforce
/cc/Program Files/Rational/common
/cc/Program Files/Rational/ClearQuest
/cc/jdk1.3.0_02/bin
SysDir: C:\WINNT\System32
WinDir: C:\WINNT
PWD = `c:/home'
CYGWIN = `ntsec'
USER = `xue'
MAKE_MODE = `unix'
HOME = `c:/home'
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2
(default) = `/cygdrive'
cygdrive flags = 0x00000022
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/
(default) = `c:\cygwin'
flags = 0x00000002
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/cc
(default) = `c:'
flags = 0x00000012
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/dd
(default) = `d:'
flags = 0x00000002
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/ee
(default) = `e:'
flags = 0x00000012
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/gg
(default) = `g:'
flags = 0x00000012
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/usr/bin
(default) = `c:/cygwin/bin'
flags = 0x00000002
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/usr/lib
(default) = `c:/cygwin/lib'
flags = 0x00000002
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2\/xx
(default) = `x:'
flags = 0x00000012
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\Program Options
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\00
(default) = `\\.\tape1:'
unix = `/dev/st1'
fbinary = 0x00000000
fsilent = 0x00000001
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\01
(default) = `\\.\tape0:'
unix = `/dev/st0'
fbinary = 0x00000000
fsilent = 0x00000001
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\02
(default) = `\\.\b:'
unix = `/dev/fd1'
fbinary = 0x00000000
fsilent = 0x00000001
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\03
(default) = `\\.\a:'
unix = `/dev/fd0'
fbinary = 0x00000000
fsilent = 0x00000001
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\04
(default) = `C:'
unix = `/'
fbinary = 0x00000000
fsilent = 0x00000000
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\mounts v2
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin\Program Options
(default) = `binmode tty ntsec'
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\00
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\01
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\02
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\03
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\04
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\05
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\06
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\07
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\08
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\09
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\0A
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\0B
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\0C
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\0D
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\0E
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\0F
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\10
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\11
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\12
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\13
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\14
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\15
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\16
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\17
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\18
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\19
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\1A
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\1B
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\1C
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygnus Solutions\CYGWIN.DLL setup\b15.0\mounts\1D
a: fd N/A N/A
c: hd NTFS 4000Mb 80% CP CS UN PA FC
d: hd NTFS 5781Mb 51% CP CS UN PA FC
e: fd N/A N/A
f: cd N/A N/A
g: net NTFS 209621Mb 34% CP CS UN PA FC Home
n: net NTFS 209621Mb 34% CP CS UN PA FC Home
s: net N/A N/A
x: net NTFS 5781Mb 51% CP CS UN PA FC
z: net FAT 273077Mb 91% CP CS UN HOME
c:\cygwin\bin /usr/bin user binmode
c:\cygwin\lib /usr/lib user binmode
c:\cygwin / user binmode
c: /cc user binmode,exec
d: /dd user binmode
e: /ee user binmode,exec
g: /gg user binmode,exec
x: /xx user binmode,exec
n: /cygdrive/n user binmode,noumount
z: /cygdrive/z user binmode,noumount
Found: c:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe
Found: c:\cygwin\bin\cat.exe
Found: c:\cygwin\bin\cpp.exe
Found: c:\cygwin\bin\find.exe
Found: c:\cygwin\bin\gcc.exe
Found: c:\cygwin\bin\gdb.exe
Found: c:\cygwin\bin\ld.exe
Found: c:\cygwin\bin\ls.exe
Found: c:\cygwin\bin\make.exe
Found: c:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe
56k 2000/12/03 c:\cygwin\bin\cygbz21.0.dll
45k 2001/04/25 c:\cygwin\bin\cygform5.dll
34k 2001/09/30 c:\cygwin\bin\cygform6.dll
18k 2000/10/23 c:\cygwin\bin\cyggdbm.dll
17k 2001/06/28 c:\cygwin\bin\cyghistory4.dll
21k 2001/06/28 c:\cygwin\bin\cyghistory5.dll
21k 2001/06/20 c:\cygwin\bin\cygintl.dll
81k 2001/10/20 c:\cygwin\bin\cygitcl30.dll
35k 2001/10/20 c:\cygwin\bin\cygitk30.dll
45k 2001/07/04 c:\cygwin\bin\cygjbig1.dll
119k 2001/06/06 c:\cygwin\bin\cygjpeg6b.dll
26k 2001/04/25 c:\cygwin\bin\cygmenu5.dll
19k 2001/09/30 c:\cygwin\bin\cygmenu6.dll
156k 2001/04/25 c:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++5.dll
175k 2001/09/30 c:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses++6.dll
226k 2001/04/25 c:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses5.dll
201k 2001/09/30 c:\cygwin\bin\cygncurses6.dll
15k 2001/04/25 c:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel5.dll
12k 2001/09/30 c:\cygwin\bin\cygpanel6.dll
163k 2001/05/06 c:\cygwin\bin\cygpng2.dll
108k 2001/06/28 c:\cygwin\bin\cygreadline4.dll
135k 2001/06/28 c:\cygwin\bin\cygreadline5.dll
390k 2001/10/20 c:\cygwin\bin\cygtcl80.dll
5k 2001/10/20 c:\cygwin\bin\cygtclpip80.dll
10k 2001/10/20 c:\cygwin\bin\cygtclreg80.dll
245k 2001/06/12 c:\cygwin\bin\cygtiff3.dll
623k 2001/10/20 c:\cygwin\bin\cygtk80.dll
41k 2001/07/04 c:\cygwin\bin\cygXpm-noX4.dll
45k 2001/07/04 c:\cygwin\bin\cygXpm-X4.dll
49k 2001/02/03 c:\cygwin\bin\cygz.dll
714k 2001/11/06 c:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll
Cygwin DLL version info:
dll major: 1003
dll minor: 4
dll epoch: 19
dll bad signal mask: 19005
dll old termios: 5
dll malloc env: 28
api major: 0
api minor: 47
shared data: 3
dll identifier: cygwin1
mount registry: 2
cygnus registry name: Cygnus Solutions
cygwin registry name: Cygwin
program options name: Program Options
cygwin mount registry name: mounts v2
cygdrive flags: cygdrive flags
cygdrive prefix: cygdrive prefix
cygdrive default prefix:
build date: Tue Nov 6 13:12:58 EST 2001
CVS tag: cygwin-1-3-4
shared id: cygwin1S3
Use -h to see help about each section
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* Re: inetd problem on NT
2001-11-11 8:26 inetd problem on NT Michael Xue
@ 2001-11-11 8:26 ` Corinna Vinschen
0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Corinna Vinschen @ 2001-11-11 8:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'cygwin@cygwin.com'
On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 07:14:30PM -0500, Michael Xue wrote:
> I just downloaded and installed the lastest cygwin, set up/ran the inetd according to the inetutils document.
> When I trid to telnet to my NT, it failed and the event view says
>
> The description for Event ID ( 0 ) in Source ( inetd ) could not be found. It contains the following insertion string(s): inetd : Win32 Process Id = 0x9F : Cygwin Process Id = 0x9F : /etc/inetd.conf: No such file or directory.
>
> Looks like inetd does not understand the mount points.
>
> Can anyone give me a pointer? Thanks
Two pointers, both from /usr/doc/Cygwin/inetutils-1.3.2.README:
- Before starting any program, be aware that all neccessary configuration
files in /etc have to be generated first! Call
iu-config
once after you installed the inetutils the first time. That
generates some files: [...]
- No user mount point is valid anymore! You have to install all
your mount points in the system mount table. This doesn't
change after you have logged in to a normal user account eg.
via telnet/rlogin. [...]
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* Re: inetd problem on NT
2001-11-11 8:26 Michael Xue
@ 2001-11-11 8:26 ` Corinna Vinschen
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From: Corinna Vinschen @ 2001-11-11 8:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'cygwin@cygwin.com'
On Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 09:02:45AM -0500, Michael Xue wrote:
> but it does not work.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
?????????????????????
>
> Thanks for any further help,
How? Without details?
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* Re: inetd problem on NT
@ 2001-11-11 8:26 Michael Xue
2001-11-11 8:26 ` Corinna Vinschen
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From: Michael Xue @ 2001-11-11 8:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'cygwin@cygwin.com'
Thanks. I did follow pointer 1. But I have no idea as how to install the mount points in
the system mount table, right now if I do mount in a bash shell, I come up with
C:\cygwin\bin on /usr/bin type user (binmode)
C:\cygwin\lib on /usr/lib type user (binmode)
C:\cygwin on / type user (binmode)
c: on /cc type user (binmode,exec)
d: on /dd type user (binmode)
showing the mount points /, /usr/bin, and /usr/lib as user mounts. I un-mount the / and
try to mount it with
mount -bs c:\cygwin /
but it does not work.
Thanks for any further help,
-Mike
> I just downloaded and installed the lastest cygwin, set up/ran theinetd according to the inetutils document.
> When I trid to telnet to my NT, it failed and the event view says
>
> The description for Event ID ( 0 ) in Source ( inetd ) could not befound. It contains the
following insertion string(s): inetd : Win32 ProcessId = 0x9F : Cygwin Process Id = 0x9F : /etc/inetd.conf: No such fileor directory.
>
> Looks like inetd does not understand the mount points.
>
> Can anyone give me a pointer? Thanks
Two pointers, both from /usr/doc/Cygwin/inetutils-1.3.2.README:
- Before starting any program, be aware that all neccessary configuration
files in /etc have to be generated first! Call
iu-config
once after you installed the inetutils the first time. That
generates some files: [...]
- No user mount point is valid anymore! You have to install all
your mount points in the system mount table. This doesn't
change after you have logged in to a normal user account eg.
via telnet/rlogin. [...]
Corinna
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* Re: inetd problem on NT
@ 2001-11-11 8:26 Winbox X
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From: Winbox X @ 2001-11-11 8:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Michael Xue; +Cc: 'cygwin@cygwin.com'
use
mount -bs 'c:\cygwin' /
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---- Michael Xue <xue@photonex.com> wrote:
> Thanks. I did follow pointer 1. But I have no idea as how to install
> the mount points in
> the system mount table, right now if I do mount in a bash shell, I
> come up with
>
> C:\cygwin\bin on /usr/bin type user (binmode)
> C:\cygwin\lib on /usr/lib type user (binmode)
> C:\cygwin on / type user (binmode)
> c: on /cc type user (binmode,exec)
> d: on /dd type user (binmode)
>
> showing the mount points /, /usr/bin, and /usr/lib as user mounts.
> I un-mount the / and
> try to mount it with
> mount -bs c:\cygwin /
> but it does not work.
>
> Thanks for any further help,
>
> -Mike
>
> > I just downloaded and installed the lastest cygwin, set up/ran theinetd
> according to the inetutils document.
> > When I trid to telnet to my NT, it failed and the event view says
> >
> > The description for Event ID ( 0 ) in Source ( inetd ) could not
> befound. It contains the
> following insertion string(s): inetd : Win32 ProcessId = 0x9F : Cygwin
> Process Id = 0x9F : /etc/inetd.conf: No such fileor directory.
> >
> > Looks like inetd does not understand the mount points.
> >
> > Can anyone give me a pointer? Thanks
>
> Two pointers, both from /usr/doc/Cygwin/inetutils-1.3.2.README:
>
> - Before starting any program, be aware that all neccessary configuration
> files in /etc have to be generated first! Call
>
> iu-config
>
> once after you installed the inetutils the first time. That
> generates some files: [...]
>
> - No user mount point is valid anymore! You have to install all
> your mount points in the system mount table. This doesn't
> change after you have logged in to a normal user account eg.
> via telnet/rlogin. [...]
>
> Corinna
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* Inetd problem on NT
2000-08-22 14:40 Inetd " Junwu Cao
2000-08-22 14:49 ` Tom Weichmann
@ 2000-08-22 16:04 ` David Starks-Browning
1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: David Starks-Browning @ 2000-08-22 16:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Junwu Cao; +Cc: cygwin
You don't say whether you have read
/usr/doc/Cygwin/inetutils-<ver>.README and followed the steps there.
Did you?
David
On Tuesday 22 Aug 00, Junwu Cao writes:
> Hi there,
>
> After installing inetd package (by setup.exe) on my NT box. I ran "ftp
> localhost". All I
> got is the following:
>
> $ ftp localhost
> Connected to ntcalvc.ardentsoftware.com.
> 421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection
> ftp>
>
> I don't know what else is needed in order to let inetd functions.
> ...
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* Re: Inetd problem on NT
2000-08-22 14:40 Inetd " Junwu Cao
@ 2000-08-22 14:49 ` Tom Weichmann
2000-08-22 16:04 ` David Starks-Browning
1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Tom Weichmann @ 2000-08-22 14:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin
Did you run Inetd first? On a real linux box the inetd daemon is started at
bootup, but unless you have installed inetd as an NT service, you need to run
it at the command line first.
Tom Weichmann
On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, you wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> After installing inetd package (by setup.exe) on my NT box. I ran "ftp
> localhost". All I
> got is the following:
>
> $ ftp localhost
> Connected to ntcalvc.ardentsoftware.com.
> 421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection
> ftp>
>
> I don't know what else is needed in order to let inetd functions. This is a
> fresh installation -
> meaning no old version of inetd running on my PC. Here is the output of
> "mount" command:
>
> $ mount
> Device Directory Type Flags
> c:\cygwin\bin /usr/bin system binmode
> c:\cygwin\lib /usr/lib system binmode
> c:\cygwin / system binmode
>
> Do you guys have any ideas? Thanks.
>
> Regards,
>
> -Junwu Cao
>
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* Inetd problem on NT
@ 2000-08-22 14:40 Junwu Cao
2000-08-22 14:49 ` Tom Weichmann
2000-08-22 16:04 ` David Starks-Browning
0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Junwu Cao @ 2000-08-22 14:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com'
Hi there,
After installing inetd package (by setup.exe) on my NT box. I ran "ftp
localhost". All I
got is the following:
$ ftp localhost
Connected to ntcalvc.ardentsoftware.com.
421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection
ftp>
I don't know what else is needed in order to let inetd functions. This is a
fresh installation -
meaning no old version of inetd running on my PC. Here is the output of
"mount" command:
$ mount
Device Directory Type Flags
c:\cygwin\bin /usr/bin system binmode
c:\cygwin\lib /usr/lib system binmode
c:\cygwin / system binmode
Do you guys have any ideas? Thanks.
Regards,
-Junwu Cao
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