setup current problems

setup current problems

[Robert Collins]

I've found the problem with setup, and am preparing a new version now.

FYI it's an infinite loop caused by the packages autoconf and
autoconf-devel (amongst others) depending on each other.

Rob


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Re: setup current problems

[Charles Wilson]

Robert Collins wrote:

> I've found the problem with setup, and am preparing a new version now.
> 
> FYI it's an infinite loop caused by the packages autoconf and
> autoconf-devel (amongst others) depending on each other.


Bleah -- but I tested this earlier.  It worked...or at least I thought I 
was exercising the proper code path; I specifically wanted to make sure 
that cyclic dependencies were okay.

I guess my earlier 'test' didn't really *test* what I thought it was 
testing...sorry for the trouble, folks.

BUT: the dependency loop NEEDS to be there -- becuase those packages ARE 
mutually dependent.  It's just that setup needs to traverse the loop 
only once and terminate. :-)

--Chuck




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Re: setup current problems

[Robert Collins]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Wilson" <cwilson@ece.gatech.edu>


> Robert Collins wrote:
>
> > I've found the problem with setup, and am preparing a new version
now.
...
> BUT: the dependency loop NEEDS to be there -- becuase those packages
ARE
> mutually dependent.  It's just that setup needs to traverse the loop
> only once and terminate. :-)

Yes, which is why I'm fixing setup, not hammering on your door about
setup.ini :}.

Rob


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Re: setup current problems

[Charles Wilson]

Robert Collins wrote:

> 
> Yes, which is why I'm fixing setup, not hammering on your door about
> setup.ini :}.

Okay, well while you're mucking with the setup code, I've got a question 
for you:

1) joe user has the autoconf package installed on his system.  in the 
past, autoconf depended only on cygwin, perl, m4

2) now, the new version of autoconf depends on cygwin, perl, m4, AND 
autoconf-devel + autoconf-stable.  (I KNOW that joe user doesn't have 
autoconf-devel/stable installed because they are brand new packages)

Q: will setup automatically select autoconf-devel and autoconf-stable if 
joe chooses to update his autoconf to the new version?  Why?  (merely 
because -stable and -devel are NEW, or because of the new dependency 
specified by setup.ini for autoconf itself?)

Q: what if the new dependency was on a package -- say, 'squid' -- that 
has been around a long time, and joe has previously skipped (so now it's 
"permanently" skipped).  Will setup present 'squid' as a new required 
dependency and automatically select it if joe decides to update his 
existing autoconf?

--Chuck


--Chuck


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Re: setup current problems

[Robert Collins]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Wilson" <cwilson@ece.gatech.edu>
To: "Robert Collins" <robert.collins@itdomain.com.au>
Cc: <cygwin@cygwin.com>; <cygwin-apps@sources.redhat.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: setup current problems


> Robert Collins wrote:
>
> >
> > Yes, which is why I'm fixing setup, not hammering on your door about
> > setup.ini :}.
>
> Okay, well while you're mucking with the setup code, I've got a
question
> for you:
>
> 1) joe user has the autoconf package installed on his system.  in the
> past, autoconf depended only on cygwin, perl, m4
>
> 2) now, the new version of autoconf depends on cygwin, perl, m4, AND
> autoconf-devel + autoconf-stable.  (I KNOW that joe user doesn't have
> autoconf-devel/stable installed because they are brand new packages)
>
> Q: will setup automatically select autoconf-devel and autoconf-stable
if
> joe chooses to update his autoconf to the new version?  Why?  (merely
> because -stable and -devel are NEW, or because of the new dependency
> specified by setup.ini for autoconf itself?)

The dependency.

> Q: what if the new dependency was on a package -- say, 'squid' -- that
> has been around a long time, and joe has previously skipped (so now
it's
> "permanently" skipped).  Will setup present 'squid' as a new required
> dependency and automatically select it if joe decides to update his
> existing autoconf?

Yes.

Rob


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Re: setup current problems

[Charles Wilson]

Robert Collins wrote:

...


> The dependency.


... 


> Yes.


Massively cool.

--Chuck



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Re: setup current problems

[Robert Collins]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charles Wilson" <cwilson@ece.gatech.edu>
> Robert Collins wrote:
> ...
> > The dependency.
> ... 
> > Yes.
> Massively cool.

*bow* :}.

Rob


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setup current problems

[Robert Collins]

I've found the problem with setup, and am preparing a new version now.

FYI it's an infinite loop caused by the packages autoconf and
autoconf-devel (amongst others) depending on each other.

Rob


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Re: setup current problems

[Charles Wilson]

Robert Collins wrote:

> I've found the problem with setup, and am preparing a new version now.
> 
> FYI it's an infinite loop caused by the packages autoconf and
> autoconf-devel (amongst others) depending on each other.


Bleah -- but I tested this earlier.  It worked...or at least I thought I 
was exercising the proper code path; I specifically wanted to make sure 
that cyclic dependencies were okay.

I guess my earlier 'test' didn't really *test* what I thought it was 
testing...sorry for the trouble, folks.

BUT: the dependency loop NEEDS to be there -- becuase those packages ARE 
mutually dependent.  It's just that setup needs to traverse the loop 
only once and terminate. :-)

--Chuck




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Re: setup current problems

[Robert Collins]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Wilson" <cwilson@ece.gatech.edu>


> Robert Collins wrote:
>
> > I've found the problem with setup, and am preparing a new version
now.
...
> BUT: the dependency loop NEEDS to be there -- becuase those packages
ARE
> mutually dependent.  It's just that setup needs to traverse the loop
> only once and terminate. :-)

Yes, which is why I'm fixing setup, not hammering on your door about
setup.ini :}.

Rob


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Re: setup current problems

[Charles Wilson]

Robert Collins wrote:

> 
> Yes, which is why I'm fixing setup, not hammering on your door about
> setup.ini :}.

Okay, well while you're mucking with the setup code, I've got a question 
for you:

1) joe user has the autoconf package installed on his system.  in the 
past, autoconf depended only on cygwin, perl, m4

2) now, the new version of autoconf depends on cygwin, perl, m4, AND 
autoconf-devel + autoconf-stable.  (I KNOW that joe user doesn't have 
autoconf-devel/stable installed because they are brand new packages)

Q: will setup automatically select autoconf-devel and autoconf-stable if 
joe chooses to update his autoconf to the new version?  Why?  (merely 
because -stable and -devel are NEW, or because of the new dependency 
specified by setup.ini for autoconf itself?)

Q: what if the new dependency was on a package -- say, 'squid' -- that 
has been around a long time, and joe has previously skipped (so now it's 
"permanently" skipped).  Will setup present 'squid' as a new required 
dependency and automatically select it if joe decides to update his 
existing autoconf?

--Chuck


--Chuck


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Re: setup current problems

[Robert Collins]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Wilson" <cwilson@ece.gatech.edu>
To: "Robert Collins" <robert.collins@itdomain.com.au>
Cc: <cygwin@cygwin.com>; <cygwin-apps@sources.redhat.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: setup current problems


> Robert Collins wrote:
>
> >
> > Yes, which is why I'm fixing setup, not hammering on your door about
> > setup.ini :}.
>
> Okay, well while you're mucking with the setup code, I've got a
question
> for you:
>
> 1) joe user has the autoconf package installed on his system.  in the
> past, autoconf depended only on cygwin, perl, m4
>
> 2) now, the new version of autoconf depends on cygwin, perl, m4, AND
> autoconf-devel + autoconf-stable.  (I KNOW that joe user doesn't have
> autoconf-devel/stable installed because they are brand new packages)
>
> Q: will setup automatically select autoconf-devel and autoconf-stable
if
> joe chooses to update his autoconf to the new version?  Why?  (merely
> because -stable and -devel are NEW, or because of the new dependency
> specified by setup.ini for autoconf itself?)

The dependency.

> Q: what if the new dependency was on a package -- say, 'squid' -- that
> has been around a long time, and joe has previously skipped (so now
it's
> "permanently" skipped).  Will setup present 'squid' as a new required
> dependency and automatically select it if joe decides to update his
> existing autoconf?

Yes.

Rob


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Re: setup current problems

[Charles Wilson]

Robert Collins wrote:

...


> The dependency.


... 


> Yes.


Massively cool.

--Chuck



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Re: setup current problems

[Robert Collins]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charles Wilson" <cwilson@ece.gatech.edu>
> Robert Collins wrote:
> ...
> > The dependency.
> ... 
> > Yes.
> Massively cool.

*bow* :}.

Rob


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