chmod

chmod

[Facey Brian]

Dear Developers,

I am using cygwin 1.3.6-6 on Windows NT 4 Server SP 6 and cannot do a
chmod on a file.  The permissions just remain the same.  I even did a
chmod -v 600 on a file.  The output showed that the permissions had
changed.  However, when I did an ls -la, the permissions remained the
same.

Please advise.


Thanks,


Brian Facey

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Re: chmod

[Christopher Faylor]

On Wed, Dec 26, 2001 at 09:21:05PM -0500, Facey Brian wrote:
>I am using cygwin 1.3.6-6 on Windows NT 4 Server SP 6 and cannot do a
>chmod on a file.  The permissions just remain the same.  I even did a
>chmod -v 600 on a file.  The output showed that the permissions had
>changed.  However, when I did an ls -la, the permissions remained the
>same.
>
>Please advise.

Read the FAQ.  Read the documentation.  Read the cygwin mailing list
archives.

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Re: chmod

[Christopher Faylor]

On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 11:21:41AM -0600, Brian Ford wrote:
>I'm sorry for being grumpy, but I just don't know what's left to tell.
>I guess WJM rubs off quickly, huh?

It's the subliminal messages we put in the cygwin DLL source code.  As
soon as you start to become more knowledgeable about cygwin, you
automatically become meaner.  Glad to see it's working.

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Re: chmod

[Brian Ford]

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003, Lorenzo Travaglio wrote:

> > Ugh.  Again, what OS and what filesystem, and:
> Sorry. Win98.
>
And FAT32, and did you read these?

> Brian Ford wrote:
> > More likely, you are running an NT variant at work and 9x at home?  See:
> >
> > http://cygwin.com/faq/faq_toc.html#TOC45 and
> > http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/highlights.html#OV-HI-PERM
> >

And again:
> > In that case, this is not Xfree86 related, so next time please use the
> > main cygwin@cygwin.com mailing list.  Also, see:
> >

And you must not have read this *still*, because you did not attach
cygcheck output.
> > http://www.cygwin.com/problems.html
> >
> > for how to report this issue correctly so that someone can answer without
> > guessing.  Thanks.
> >
>
I don't even really know what the question is anymore!  chmod is a no-op
on Win98.  Cygwin fakes permissions there, and it won't work.

If this is not clear enough, or did not answer your question, please
carefully follow the guidlines presented in the URL above, post to
the correct list with an informative subject line, and then maybe you'll
get the answer your looking for.

I'm sorry for being grumpy, but I just don't know what's left to tell.  I
guess WJM rubs off quickly, huh?

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Re: chmod

[Igor Pechtchanski]

Lorenzo,

This doesn't seem to be XFree-related, so the proper list is <cygwin at
cygwin dot com>.  I've redirected this there.

More replies inline below.

On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Lorenzo Travaglio wrote:

> Hi all,
> I've sent to myself from my office a little bash program. With Xterm it is
> impossible to change the peremissions even if 'chmod -v' says that new
> permissions have take place. I have no idea about, do you have one?
>
> Thank you

The FAQ is your friend: <http://cygwin.com/faq/faq.html#SEC45>
However, that entry is missing one important bit: if you're on a FAT32
filesystem, you're out of luck as well.
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RE: chmod

[Vince Hoffman]

just tried with ntsec enabled. if run as ./foo.sh the script foo.sh will run
whether or not the executable bit is set. the only difference was that bash
wouldn't auto complete it for me when not marked as executable ;) 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kris Thielemans [mailto:kris.thielemans@csc.mrc.ac.uk]
> Sent: 16 October 2002 11:38
> To: CygWin Users' List; Andrei Cernea
> Subject: RE: chmod
> 
> 
> Hi Andrei,
> 
> we see only part of your problem here. However, if you're 
> asking on how to
> make cygwin recognise that a shell script is executable, you 
> should put
> #! /bin/sh
> as first line in the script. No chmod necessary (This is a 
> FAQ actually).
> (I don't know if chmod would work/is necessary with the ntsec feature
> enabled. Hopefully someone else can clarify this and put it in the
> FAQ/User's guide)
> 
> Kris Thielemans
> (kris.thielemans <at> ic.ac.uk)
> Imaging Research Solutions Ltd
> Cyclotron Building
> Hammersmith Hospital
> Du Cane Road
> London W12 ONN, United Kingdom
> 
> web site address: http://www.irsl.org/~kris
> >
> > Andrei --
> >
> > ...and then Andrei Cernea said...
> > %
> > % Hi!
> > %
> > % I am using Cygwin 2.05. I am emailing you because of this:
> > %
> > % ============================================
> > % > chmod --help
> > ...
> > %
> > % Report bugs to <bug-fileutils@gnu.org>.
> > % ============================================
> > %
> > % I noticed that in order for a file to have x rights on windows
> > it needs to
> > % have executable extension. That is, if I have a script 
> file with no
> > [snip]
> >
> > Well, yes and no...  If it has a .exe or .com or .bat 
> extension, then
> > it's considered obvious that it should be executable and so 
> the x bit is
> > set for you.  As I understand it, if you want to be able to 
> run a shell
> > script without having to use
> >
> >   bash /path/to/script
> >
> > then you'll need to set the x bit.  IIRC there's a way to 
> tell Windows
> > and the Cygwin DLL to recognize .sh extensions, just like it already
> > recognizes the other three, and then naming your shell scripts
> > appropriately will make them executable.  Note that I don't 
> think that
> > this is the same as typical file extensions, but I could be 
> wrong.  Then
> > you could tie .pl to perl and who knows what else, too.  Perhaps all
> > that's necessary to have the system honor the shebang line 
> is the x bit;
> > it's been a while since I was an active cygwin reader.
> >
> > The bottom line is that you should direct your question to 
> the cygwin
> > mailing list, where I've sent a copy of this message (Hi, 
> all! Long time,
> > no see :-) and to which I've directed followups.  Yes, the reporting
> > address is the bug-fileutils mailing list, but this isn't a bug but
> > instead a peculiarity of the cygwin environment.
> >
> >
> > HTH & HAND
> >
> > :-D
> > --
> > David T-G                      * There is too much animal courage in
> > (play) davidtg@justpickone.org * society and not sufficient 
> moral courage.
> > (work) davidtgwork@justpickone.org  -- Mary Baker Eddy, "Science
> > and Health"
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> >
> >
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RE: chmod

[Kris Thielemans]

Hi Andrei,

we see only part of your problem here. However, if you're asking on how to
make cygwin recognise that a shell script is executable, you should put
#! /bin/sh
as first line in the script. No chmod necessary (This is a FAQ actually).
(I don't know if chmod would work/is necessary with the ntsec feature
enabled. Hopefully someone else can clarify this and put it in the
FAQ/User's guide)

Kris Thielemans
(kris.thielemans <at> ic.ac.uk)
Imaging Research Solutions Ltd
Cyclotron Building
Hammersmith Hospital
Du Cane Road
London W12 ONN, United Kingdom

web site address: http://www.irsl.org/~kris
>
> Andrei --
>
> ...and then Andrei Cernea said...
> %
> % Hi!
> %
> % I am using Cygwin 2.05. I am emailing you because of this:
> %
> % ============================================
> % > chmod --help
> ...
> %
> % Report bugs to <bug-fileutils@gnu.org>.
> % ============================================
> %
> % I noticed that in order for a file to have x rights on windows
> it needs to
> % have executable extension. That is, if I have a script file with no
> [snip]
>
> Well, yes and no...  If it has a .exe or .com or .bat extension, then
> it's considered obvious that it should be executable and so the x bit is
> set for you.  As I understand it, if you want to be able to run a shell
> script without having to use
>
>   bash /path/to/script
>
> then you'll need to set the x bit.  IIRC there's a way to tell Windows
> and the Cygwin DLL to recognize .sh extensions, just like it already
> recognizes the other three, and then naming your shell scripts
> appropriately will make them executable.  Note that I don't think that
> this is the same as typical file extensions, but I could be wrong.  Then
> you could tie .pl to perl and who knows what else, too.  Perhaps all
> that's necessary to have the system honor the shebang line is the x bit;
> it's been a while since I was an active cygwin reader.
>
> The bottom line is that you should direct your question to the cygwin
> mailing list, where I've sent a copy of this message (Hi, all! Long time,
> no see :-) and to which I've directed followups.  Yes, the reporting
> address is the bug-fileutils mailing list, but this isn't a bug but
> instead a peculiarity of the cygwin environment.
>
>
> HTH & HAND
>
> :-D
> --
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> (play) davidtg@justpickone.org * society and not sufficient moral courage.
> (work) davidtgwork@justpickone.org  -- Mary Baker Eddy, "Science
> and Health"
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> Qrprapl Npg!
>
>
>
>


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Re: chmod

[David T-G]

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Andrei --

...and then Andrei Cernea said...
% 
% Hi!
% 
% I am using Cygwin 2.05. I am emailing you because of this:
% 
% ============================================
% > chmod --help
...
% 
% Report bugs to <bug-fileutils@gnu.org>.
% ============================================
% 
% I noticed that in order for a file to have x rights on windows it needs to
% have executable extension. That is, if I have a script file with no
[snip]

Well, yes and no...  If it has a .exe or .com or .bat extension, then
it's considered obvious that it should be executable and so the x bit is
set for you.  As I understand it, if you want to be able to run a shell
script without having to use

  bash /path/to/script

then you'll need to set the x bit.  IIRC there's a way to tell Windows
and the Cygwin DLL to recognize .sh extensions, just like it already
recognizes the other three, and then naming your shell scripts
appropriately will make them executable.  Note that I don't think that
this is the same as typical file extensions, but I could be wrong.  Then
you could tie .pl to perl and who knows what else, too.  Perhaps all
that's necessary to have the system honor the shebang line is the x bit;
it's been a while since I was an active cygwin reader.

The bottom line is that you should direct your question to the cygwin
mailing list, where I've sent a copy of this message (Hi, all! Long time,
no see :-) and to which I've directed followups.  Yes, the reporting
address is the bug-fileutils mailing list, but this isn't a bug but
instead a peculiarity of the cygwin environment.


HTH & HAND

:-D
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(work) davidtgwork@justpickone.org  -- Mary Baker Eddy, "Science and Health"
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RE: chmod

[Sommer, Thorsten]

Hi, Brian ...

> I am using cygwin 1.3.6-6 on Windows NT 4 Server SP 6 and cannot do a
> chmod on a file.  The permissions just remain the same.  I even did a
> chmod -v 600 on a file.  The output showed that the permissions had
> changed.  However, when I did an ls -la, the permissions remained the
> same.

I think you should investigate the CYGWIN environment variable
and its value "ntsec" ;-)

Greetings from Germany,
Th.


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Re: chmod

[Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)]

At 01:21 PM 10/24/2001, Richard Mansfield wrote:
>I am trying to install fetchmail in cygwin. (My laptop can't run XFree86.)
>The problem I am having is that I can't get chmod to work to get the
>proper permissions for the .fetchmailrc file!!!
>
>melvin@WESTON ~
>$ ls -l .fetchmailrc
>-rw-r--r--    1 melvin   544            76 Apr 23  2001 .fetchmailrc
>
>melvin@WESTON ~
>$ chmod -v 0600 .fetchmailrc
>mode of `.fetchmailrc' changed to 0600 (rw-------)
>
>melvin@WESTON ~
>$ ls -l .fetchmailrc
>-rw-r--r--    1 melvin   544            76 Apr 23  2001 .fetchmailrc
>
>melvin@WESTON ~
$

Hm, sounds like an FAQ to me.  Did you look at the FAQ, specifically the 
entry:

Why doesn't chmod work?
http://www.cygwin.com/faq/faq_4.html#SEC44

?

If not, you may want to review this and any other related FAQ entry.  If 
these don't help and you don't see anything useful in other documentation
(User's Guide, mail archives, etc.), you'll need to provide some more 
specifics about your case to the list.


Regards,


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chmod

[Richard Mansfield]

I am trying to install fetchmail in cygwin. (My laptop can't run XFree86.)
The problem I am having is that I can't get chmod to work to get the
proper permissions for the .fetchmailrc file!!!

melvin@WESTON ~
$ ls -l .fetchmailrc
-rw-r--r--    1 melvin   544            76 Apr 23  2001 .fetchmailrc

melvin@WESTON ~
$ chmod -v 0600 .fetchmailrc
mode of `.fetchmailrc' changed to 0600 (rw-------)

melvin@WESTON ~
$ ls -l .fetchmailrc
-rw-r--r--    1 melvin   544            76 Apr 23  2001 .fetchmailrc

melvin@WESTON ~
$



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RE: chmod

[Simha, Shuba]

See:
http://www.cygwin.com/faq/faq_4.html#SEC37

http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/using-cygwinenv.html


- Shuba




-----Original Message-----
From: rhenderson [ mailto:rhenderson@alpha1.net ]
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 12:22 PM
To: cygwin@cygwin.com
Subject: chmod


Is there anyway to have a file perm  read 600 (-rw------)?

Thanks,

Rick Henderson
Windham School District
(936) 291-5356



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Re: chmod

[Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)]

At 12:21 PM 4/18/2001, rhenderson wrote:
>Is there anyway to have a file perm  read 600 (-rw------)?



Certainly.  If this doesn't work for you by default, read the user doc and
FAQ's w.r.t to chmod and security/permissions.  The short answer is that 
this will work as expected on NT only and only if you set ntsec and/or ntea
on your CYGWIN environment variable.  The docs give the details of these 
changes and why you may or may not want to exercise these options. 



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chmod

[rhenderson]

Is there anyway to have a file perm  read 600 (-rw------)?

Thanks,

Rick Henderson
Windham School District
(936) 291-5356



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Re: chmod

[Corinna Vinschen]

On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 10:40:29AM -0400, Simha, Shuba wrote:
> I downloaded cygwin for my winNT 4. 
> I am using SSH & SCP from Cygwin to connect to a remote host(with a
> different username as that of cygwin) & get some files. But when I do scp,
> it says "permission denied". I tried changing the permissions of the
> homedir, but since chmod does not work on cygwin (which is very
> disgusting!!), I am stuck here !!

It's not disgusting, you're simply wrong.

> I read all the documentation, FAQ & user guides about chmod. I badly want
> scp to work, please help...
> What about ntea? How do I set this environment variable? I want to make
> clear that this client machine is used for heavy applications, that are
> memory & space intensive. I understand that ntea creates a file that grows
> extensively! Are there any possible solutions for my problem??
> 
> Any help asap is highly appreciated.

http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/cygwin-ug-net.html
http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/using-cygwinenv.html
http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/ntsec.html

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Re: chmod

[Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)]

At 10:40 AM 4/5/2001, Simha, Shuba wrote:
>I downloaded cygwin for my winNT 4. 
>I am using SSH & SCP from Cygwin to connect to a remote host(with a
>different username as that of cygwin) & get some files. But when I do scp,
>it says "permission denied". I tried changing the permissions of the
>homedir, but since chmod does not work on cygwin (which is very
>disgusting!!), I am stuck here !!
>I read all the documentation, FAQ & user guides about chmod. I badly want
>scp to work, please help...
>What about ntea? How do I set this environment variable? I want to make
>clear that this client machine is used for heavy applications, that are
>memory & space intensive. I understand that ntea creates a file that grows
>extensively! Are there any possible solutions for my problem??


Are you suggesting that you're running NT 4 with FAT partitions?  If so, 
setting your CYGWIN environment variable to ntea is your only option for 
getting chmod to work with Cygwin.  If you use NTFS partitions, you're better 
off setting ntsec.  Since you've already read the user guide documentation, 
I'm sure I don't need to point you to the page that describes these settings 
and what they mean.

Hope that's helpful to you,



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chmod

[Simha, Shuba]

I downloaded cygwin for my winNT 4. 
I am using SSH & SCP from Cygwin to connect to a remote host(with a
different username as that of cygwin) & get some files. But when I do scp,
it says "permission denied". I tried changing the permissions of the
homedir, but since chmod does not work on cygwin (which is very
disgusting!!), I am stuck here !!
I read all the documentation, FAQ & user guides about chmod. I badly want
scp to work, please help...
What about ntea? How do I set this environment variable? I want to make
clear that this client machine is used for heavy applications, that are
memory & space intensive. I understand that ntea creates a file that grows
extensively! Are there any possible solutions for my problem??

Any help asap is highly appreciated.

Thanks..
SS


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Re: chmod

[Michael Erdely]

Antanas,
  Make sure that you have CYGWIN=ntsec in your enviroment.
  This is a FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/faq_4.html#SEC37

-ME

----- Original Message -----
From: "Antanas Romas" <romasantanas@hotmail.com>
To: <cygwin@cygwin.com>
Cc: <antanas@eskonsult.se>
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 3:07 PM
Subject: chmod


> Earnie,
>
> I was using chmod command; however, I could not change permissions as it
is
> seen below (a copy from a PC screen):
>
> ANTANAS-DATOR:test>ls -l
> total 0
> -rw-r--r--   1 500      544             5 Mar 21 16:00 test
> ANTANAS-DATOR:test>chmod 777 test
> ANTANAS-DATOR:test>ls -l
> total 0
> -rw-r--r--   1 500      544             5 Mar 21 16:00 test
> ANTANAS-DATOR:test>
>
> what can be wrong? Maybe I am typing something incorrectly?
>
> Thank you in advance,
> With best regards,
> Antanas
>
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[Antanas Romas]

Earnie,

I was using chmod command; however, I could not change permissions as it is 
seen below (a copy from a PC screen):

ANTANAS-DATOR:test>ls -l
total 0
-rw-r--r--   1 500      544             5 Mar 21 16:00 test
ANTANAS-DATOR:test>chmod 777 test
ANTANAS-DATOR:test>ls -l
total 0
-rw-r--r--   1 500      544             5 Mar 21 16:00 test
ANTANAS-DATOR:test>

what can be wrong? Maybe I am typing something incorrectly?

Thank you in advance,
With best regards,
Antanas


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Re: chmod

[Corinna Vinschen]

On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 09:34:17AM +0100, Mag. M. Faffelberger wrote:
> hi,
> 
> where can i find a listing of poosible modes and their meanings for "chmod"

Command line: man chmod
Webbrowser:   http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/007908799/xcu/chmod.html

Corinna

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[Mag. M. Faffelberger]

hi,

where can i find a listing of poosible modes and their meanings for "chmod"

thanx
matthias

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