Tcl

Tcl

[David A. Cobb]

Background: I build a gcc 3.1 -- I don't yet know how successfully. 
 When I tried MAKE CHECK things didn't go too well because, I guess, the 
test suite depends on Tcl (and probably other stuff).  
So, I search around on my disk.  Hey!  Since installing Cygwin SWIG 
there's /lots/ of xxx.tcl files anyway.  But there's still no tcl.exe.  

Scratching my head and remembering I asked about Tcl once before and got 
curtly informed there was no current work with a port, I wasn't 
surprised it's not  here.  If I've misunderstood the situation, someone 
_please_ set me straight before I dive into deep water.

I've located a port of an oldish version of Tcl by Mummet Kahn.  I 
figured I'd mess about with it a bit then try to do the parallel thing 
with the current baseline.  
QUESTION 1.
Would there be any interest in this here?  Alternatively, has anyone 
tried and despaired 'cause there's far better C programmers here than I?

QUESTION 2.
Does anyone else know what additional pieces are needed for the GNU test 
suites to be fully functional?

-- 
David A. Cobb, Software Engineer, Public Access Advocate
"By God's Grace I am a Christian man, by my actions a great sinner." -- The Way of a Pilgrim; R. M. French, tr.
Life is too short to tolerate crappy software.
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Re: Tcl

[Christopher Faylor]

On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 08:05:39PM -0400, David A. Cobb wrote:
>Background: I build a gcc 3.1 -- I don't yet know how successfully. 
>When I tried MAKE CHECK things didn't go too well because, I guess, the 
>test suite depends on Tcl (and probably other stuff).  
>So, I search around on my disk.  Hey!  Since installing Cygwin SWIG 
>there's /lots/ of xxx.tcl files anyway.  But there's still no tcl.exe.  
>
>Scratching my head and remembering I asked about Tcl once before and got 
>curtly informed there was no current work with a port, I wasn't 
>surprised it's not  here.  If I've misunderstood the situation, someone 
>_please_ set me straight before I dive into deep water.

http://cygwin.com/cgi-bin2/package-cat.cgi?file=tcltk/tcltk-20001125-1&grep=tcl

cgf

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Re: Tcl

[Tim Prince]

On Sunday 26 May 2002 17:05, David A. Cobb wrote:
> Background: I build a gcc 3.1 -- I don't yet know how successfully.
>  When I tried MAKE CHECK things didn't go too well because, I guess, the
> test suite depends on Tcl (and probably other stuff).
> So, I search around on my disk.  Hey!  Since installing Cygwin SWIG
> there's /lots/ of xxx.tcl files anyway.  But there's still no tcl.exe.
>
> Scratching my head and remembering I asked about Tcl once before and got
> curtly informed there was no current work with a port, I wasn't
> surprised it's not  here.  If I've misunderstood the situation, someone
> _please_ set me straight before I dive into deep water.
>
>
Since you've figured out already that discussion of tcl isn't popular here, 
you should be looking at the archives and at your setup.exe options to avoid 
senseless duplication.  The dejagnu and tcl which come with cygwin are 
sufficient to run all of the gcc testsuite other than the libstdc, after you 
correct the problems with the runtest script.  No, I don't know why the 
runtest remains broken; I believe David Billinghurst has submitted the 
necessary patches.
For libstdc, you need a more current version, which still builds "out of the 
box," provided that you use the cygwin standard version of g++, not the new 
one which you have built.  One more reason to be grateful for the cygwin 
support of the older g++.

When you make remarks about the test suite not being fully functional, you 
could be more specific.  The "dg" part of the gcc testsuite does fail when I 
rebuild the cygwin binutils to support alignment, but that's the only lack of 
full functionality of which I'm aware under 2K.  I suspect that it might not 
run under win9x, but I don't know anyone with the motivation to attempt to 
make everything bulletproof on discontinued Windows versions.  I gave up long 
ago trying to run dejagnu on 9x.
Nor am I sufficiently enthusiastic about C++ or tcl to want to tackle the 
port of tcl from libstdc++-v2 to a current libstdc, if that's what you mean.  
I don't see that as a cygwin-specific problem; perhaps the opposite, since 
cygwin is holding on to -v2 longer than much of the rest of the world, with 
the exception of the dejagnu maintainers.  
And don't say that I'm casting aspersions on the backwardness of cygwin; in 
fact, I figured out today that the cygwin binutils is supporting the profile 
feedback feature of gcc/g77-3.1, while the stock SuSE-7.3 binutils is not 
sufficiently up to date.
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Tim Prince

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