Re: running mks toolkit and cygwin on same machine

Re: running mks toolkit and cygwin on same machine

[Robert Collins]

Why not just roll-your own 'rev'?

Included is a trivial 'rev.cc' that will handle any size argument list that
cygwin is able to pass it. It should include <algorithm> to support gcc 3.1,
but for some reason it couldn't process templates when I included that.
Sigh.

Compile with
g++ -o rev.exe rev.cc

Rob

====
// Licenced under the GNU General Public Licence version 2.0 or greater, a
copy of which can be obtained
// from http://www.gnu.org
//
// Copyright (c) 2002 Robert Collins.

#include <vector>
#include <iostream>
#include <algo.h>

template <class T> struct print : public unary_function<T, void>
{
  print(ostream& out) : os(out) {}
  void operator() (T x) { os << x << ' '; }
  ostream& os;
};

int main (int argc, char **argv)
{
  vector <char *> args;
  // assumes argv[0] is this process. This can be incorrect with some uses
  // of exec, but should be fine for shell scripts
  for (int n=1; n < argc; ++n)
    args.push_back (argv[n]);
  for_each (args.rbegin() ,args.rend (), print<char *>(cout));
}
===


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Re: running mks toolkit and cygwin on same machine

[Christopher Faylor]

On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 02:48:52PM +1000, Robert Collins wrote:
>Why not just roll-your own 'rev'?
>
>Included is a trivial 'rev.cc' that will handle any size argument list that
>cygwin is able to pass it. It should include <algorithm> to support gcc 3.1,
>but for some reason it couldn't process templates when I included that.
>Sigh.
>
>Compile with
>g++ -o rev.exe rev.cc

Sounds like a candidate for cygutils...

cgf

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Re: running mks toolkit and cygwin on same machine

[Robert Collins]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Faylor" <cgf@redhat.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 2:51 PM


> On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 02:48:52PM +1000, Robert Collins wrote:
> >Why not just roll-your own 'rev'?
..
> >Compile with
> >g++ -o rev.exe rev.cc
>
> Sounds like a candidate for cygutils...

Fine by me. It's probably even codeable in bash/ash scripting, but I'm not a
shell guru.
And, it's hardly likely to require maintenance :}.

Rob


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Re: running mks toolkit and cygwin on same machine

[Charles Wilson]

Christopher Faylor wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 02:48:52PM +1000, Robert Collins wrote:
> 
>>Why not just roll-your own 'rev'?
>>
>>Included is a trivial 'rev.cc' that will handle any size argument list that
>>cygwin is able to pass it. It should include <algorithm> to support gcc 3.1,
>>but for some reason it couldn't process templates when I included that.
>>Sigh.
>>
>>Compile with
>>g++ -o rev.exe rev.cc
>>
> 
> Sounds like a candidate for cygutils...



Yes, it's been on my todo list for some time.  Here are the util-linux 
progs that I believe still need to be added to cygutils:

colcrt  - filter nroff output for CRT previewing
colrm   - remove columns from a file
column  - columnate lists
rev     - reverses the characters on each line of each file
mcookie - generates magic cookies for Xauth

I have the util-linux code for each of this, plus man pages.  I just 
need to munge them up so they build within cygutils...time, time, time...

--Chuck




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Re: running mks toolkit and cygwin on same machine

[Charles Wilson]

Christopher Faylor wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 02:48:52PM +1000, Robert Collins wrote:
> 
>>Why not just roll-your own 'rev'?
>>
>>Included is a trivial 'rev.cc' that will handle any size argument list that
>>cygwin is able to pass it. It should include <algorithm> to support gcc 3.1,
>>but for some reason it couldn't process templates when I included that.
>>Sigh.
>>
>>Compile with
>>g++ -o rev.exe rev.cc
>>
> 
> Sounds like a candidate for cygutils...



Yes, it's been on my todo list for some time.  Here are the util-linux 
progs that I believe still need to be added to cygutils:

colcrt  - filter nroff output for CRT previewing
colrm   - remove columns from a file
column  - columnate lists
rev     - reverses the characters on each line of each file
mcookie - generates magic cookies for Xauth

I have the util-linux code for each of this, plus man pages.  I just 
need to munge them up so they build within cygutils...time, time, time...

--Chuck



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Re: running mks toolkit and cygwin on same machine

[Conrad Scott]

"Charles Wilson" <cwilson@ece.gatech.edu> wrote:
> Yes, it's been on my todo list for some time.
> Here are the util-linux progs that I believe
> still need to be added to cygutils:
>
[snip]

Would the cygutils package be a suitable home for two other
util-linux programs: ipcs and ipcrm?

I have these now compiled and working against the cygwin_daemon
branch.  Since these presumably aren't going to be part of the
cygwin package and I'm loath to create a package just for these
two utilities, I'm keen to find some other existing package in
which to lose them.  They're unlikely to need much support (once
I've hacked them up properly).

// Conrad




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Re: running mks toolkit and cygwin on same machine

[Charles Wilson]

Conrad Scott wrote:

> "Charles Wilson" <cwilson@ece.gatech.edu> wrote:
> 
>>Yes, it's been on my todo list for some time.
>>Here are the util-linux progs that I believe
>>still need to be added to cygutils:
>>
>>
> [snip]
> 
> Would the cygutils package be a suitable home for two other
> util-linux programs: ipcs and ipcrm?
> 
> I have these now compiled and working against the cygwin_daemon
> branch.  Since these presumably aren't going to be part of the
> cygwin package and I'm loath to create a package just for these
> two utilities, I'm keen to find some other existing package in
> which to lose them.  They're unlikely to need much support (once
> I've hacked them up properly).


Yes, Robert and I have talked about that in the past.  cygipc includes 
them, but once cygdaemon is official I'll add them to cygutils.

Currently, cygutils includes a few IPC test programs (but not ipcrm or 
ipcs) -- but those are only built if cygipc is installed, are are not 
included in "official" cygutils package since cygipc isn't official.

If you can
   1) give me the code -- see cygutils' HOW-TO-CONTRIBUTE document
   2) also come up with an m4 macro for configure.in that I can use to 
detect the presence of a cygserver-capable cygwin1.dll

Then I have no problems adding ipcs and ipcrm to cygutils BEFORE 
cygserver goes gold.

--Chuck




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Re: running mks toolkit and cygwin on same machine

[Conrad Scott]

"Charles Wilson" <cwilson@ece.gatech.edu> wrote:
> If you can
>    1) give me the code -- see cygutils' HOW-TO-CONTRIBUTE
>     document
>    2) also come up with an m4 macro for configure.in that
>     I can use to detect the presence of a cygserver-capable
>     cygwin1.dll
>
> Then I have no problems adding ipcs and ipcrm to cygutils BEFORE
> cygserver goes gold.

Thanks, that's good.  I'll put that together once I've fixed up
ipcs and ipcrm right and proper.

// Conrad




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Re: running mks toolkit and cygwin on same machine

[Nicholas Wourms]

--- Robert Collins <robert.collins@syncretize.net> wrote:
> Why not just roll-your own 'rev'?
> 
> Included is a trivial 'rev.cc' that will handle any size argument list
> that
> cygwin is able to pass it. It should include <algorithm> to support gcc
> 3.1,
> but for some reason it couldn't process templates when I included that.
> Sigh.
> 
> Compile with
> g++ -o rev.exe rev.cc
> 
> Rob
Robert,

Perhaps this is another miscellaneous utility best suited for inclusion in
cygutils?

Cheers,
Nicholas

P.S. - This may already get ask later in the thread, but I'm hacking
through 100 messages now after being on haitus for most of yesterday...

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Re: running mks toolkit and cygwin on same machine

[scowles]

Wednesday, July 10, 2002, 6:17:28 AM, you wrote:

TB> On Tue, Jul 09, 2002 at 10:02:38PM -0700, scowles@earthlink.net wrote:
>> TB>     more      - sometimes I do not want the text to disappear from
>> TB>                 the screen on exit
>> 
>> /bin/more is part of cygwin on my system (current as of 2 hours ago,
>> full install).

TB> I do not see it in the Cygwin Setup Select Packages list.  Is it an
TB> alias of less?

see below,

sid


02-07-10
20:01:32 [512] BUBO5:ftp%3a%2f%2fftp.easynet.be%2fcygwin/release% /bin/ls -l ./less ./more
./less:
total 262
-rwx------    1 scowles  None       192974 Jun 15 14:40 less-374-1-src.tar.bz2
-rw-rw-rw-    1 scowles  None         5522 Jun 17 20:56 less-374-1-src.tarls
-rwx------    1 scowles  None        66831 Jun 12 18:09 less-374-1.tar.bz2
-rw-rw-rw-    1 scowles  None          597 Jun 17 20:56 less-374-1.tarls

./more:
total 16
-rwx------    1 scowles  None        15151 Jun 12 18:09 more-2.11o-1.tar.bz2
-rw-rw-rw-    1 scowles  None          398 Jun 17 20:56 more-2.11o-1.tarls
02-07-10
20:02:03 [513] BUBO5:ftp%3a%2f%2fftp.easynet.be%2fcygwin/release%


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Re: running mks toolkit and cygwin on same machine

[Charles Wilson]

John Vincent wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I guess you'll hate me for mentioning this, but if
> it's going into cygutils, please implement the
> options --help and --version to do the obvious things.
> 
> Unless you're going to do a couple of pages of text for
> info/man etc. :-))


util-linux's rev doesn't support any options.  However, the man page is 
copied below:

--Chuck

REV(1)                  System General Commands Manual 
REV(1)

NAME
      rev - reverse lines of a file

SYNOPSIS
      rev [file]

DESCRIPTION
      The rev utility copies the specified files to the standard output,
      reversing the order of characters in every line.  If no files are 
speci-
      fied, the standard input is read.

BSD                             March 21, 1992 
    BSD




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Re: running mks toolkit and cygwin on same machine

[Charles Wilson]

Jon LaBadie wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 06:02:25AM +0200, Thomas Baker wrote:
> 
> 
>>    rev       - reverse order of characters in a line
>>
> 
> Included in the AT&T "ast" package for cygwin.


as of right now, the AT&T "ast" package isn't an official cygwin package 
(e.g. installable by setup).  That may change, eventually.

--Chuck





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Re: running mks toolkit and cygwin on same machine

[Charles Wilson]

John Vincent wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I guess you'll hate me for mentioning this, but if
> it's going into cygutils, please implement the
> options --help and --version to do the obvious things.
> 
> Unless you're going to do a couple of pages of text for
> info/man etc. :-))


util-linux's rev doesn't support any options.  However, the man page is 
copied below:

--Chuck

REV(1)                  System General Commands Manual 
REV(1)

NAME
      rev - reverse lines of a file

SYNOPSIS
      rev [file]

DESCRIPTION
      The rev utility copies the specified files to the standard output,
      reversing the order of characters in every line.  If no files are 
speci-
      fied, the standard input is read.

BSD                             March 21, 1992 
    BSD



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Re: running mks toolkit and cygwin on same machine

[Charles Wilson]

Thomas Baker wrote:

> I do not see it in the Cygwin Setup Select Packages list.  Is it an
> alias of less?


No, it's a actual, standalone package.  You probably need to click on 
the 'Full' button.

--Chuck




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Re: running mks toolkit and cygwin on same machine

[Charles Wilson]

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scowles@earthlink.net wrote:

> TB> Though Cygwin seems to have left MKS in the dust for most
> TB> of the functions I am interested in -- vim vs. vi, mutt
> TB> vs. mailx, fetchmail vs. something-that-didn't-work-for-me,
> TB> procmail vs. nothing -- there are a few commands that I still
> TB> use in their MKS versions:
> 
> TB>     cpio      - is this out of fashion now, or what?
> 
> yes, it is.  the big difference between cpio and tar in ages past was
> that cpio could handle devices.  (arguably, complete lists in
> configuration management are handled much easier by cpio's stdin
> filename input method).  however, gnutar now handles devices just as well.
> in addition, gnutar handles major compression techniques internally.
> source for gnu cpio (i have used ver. 2.4.2 for years) is readily
> available and compiles ootb on cygwin.  it handles all of my ancient
> archives from multiple platforms.


Yeah, but cpio is still valuable for mucking with rpm's.  I often do 
this, when I want to extract code without installing the rpm...

rpm2cpio foo.rpm | cpio -i --make-directories

Granted, we don't have rpm yet, so...


> TB>     flip      - changes CRLF endings; no equivalent in Cygwin?
> 
> easy to do in any shell:  invoke /bin/tr to do the translation
> you need.  e.g.  for cr to lf:  cat $file | /bin/tr '\015' '\


d2u and u2d are already in the cygutils package.


> TB>     more      - sometimes I do not want the text to disappear from
> TB>                 the screen on exit
> 
> /bin/more is part of cygwin on my system (current as of 2 hours ago,
> full install).


Yep.  But don't use it -- less is much better.

> 
> TB>     rev       - reverse order of characters in a line
> 


This is on my TODO list for cygutils.  On linux, it is part of the 
util-linux package, a grab bag of random small utilities.  On cygwin, 
cygutils is the grab bag of random small utilities: hence...

I've attached the util-linux source for rev.c -- it's a bit more complex 
(complete?) than some of the other implementations...I'll probably use 
it as the basis for cygutils' version.

--Chuck


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/*-
 * Copyright (c) 1987, 1992 The Regents of the University of California.
 * All rights reserved.
 *
 * Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without
 * modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions
 * are met:
 * 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright
 *    notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer.
 * 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright
 *    notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the
 *    documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution.
 * 3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software
 *    must display the following acknowledgement:
 *	This product includes software developed by the University of
 *	California, Berkeley and its contributors.
 * 4. Neither the name of the University nor the names of its contributors
 *    may be used to endorse or promote products derived from this software
 *    without specific prior written permission.
 *
 * THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE REGENTS AND CONTRIBUTORS ``AS IS'' AND
 * ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE
 * IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE
 * ARE DISCLAIMED.  IN NO EVENT SHALL THE REGENTS OR CONTRIBUTORS BE LIABLE
 * FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL
 * DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS
 * OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION)
 * HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT
 * LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY
 * OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF
 * SUCH DAMAGE.
 *
 * Modified for Linux by Charles Hannum (mycroft@gnu.ai.mit.edu)
 *                   and Brian Koehmstedt (bpk@gnu.ai.mit.edu)
 *
 * Wed Sep 14 22:26:00 1994: Patch from bjdouma <bjdouma@xs4all.nl> to handle
 *                           last line that has no newline correctly.
 * 3-Jun-1998: Patched by Nicolai Langfeldt to work better on Linux:
 * 	Handle any-length-lines.  Code copied from util-linux' setpwnam.c
 * 1999-02-22 Arkadiusz Mi¶kiewicz <misiek@pld.ORG.PL>
 * 	added Native Language Support
 * 1999-09-19 Bruno Haible <haible@clisp.cons.org>
 * 	modified to work correctly in multi-byte locales
 *
 */

#include <stdarg.h>
#include <sys/types.h>
#include <errno.h>
#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdlib.h>
#include <string.h>
#include <unistd.h>
#include "nls.h"

#include "widechar.h"

void usage(void);
void warn(const char *, ...);

int
main(int argc, char *argv[])
{
  register char *filename;
  register wchar_t *t;
  size_t buflen = 512;
  wchar_t *p = malloc(buflen*sizeof(wchar_t));
  size_t len;
  FILE *fp;
  int ch, rval;

  setlocale(LC_ALL, "");
  bindtextdomain(PACKAGE, LOCALEDIR);
  textdomain(PACKAGE);

  while ((ch = getopt(argc, argv, "")) != EOF)
    switch(ch) {
    case '?':
    default:
      usage();
    }

  argc -= optind;
  argv += optind;

  fp = stdin;
  filename = "stdin";
  rval = 0;
  do {
    if (*argv) {
      if ((fp = fopen(*argv, "r")) == NULL) {
	warn("%s: %s", *argv, strerror(errno));
	rval = 1;
	++argv;
	continue;
      }
      filename = *argv++;
    }

    while (fgetws(p, buflen, fp)) {

      len = wcslen(p);

      /* This is my hack from setpwnam.c -janl */
      while (p[len-1] != '\n' && !feof(fp)) {
	/* Extend input buffer if it failed getting the whole line */

	/* So now we double the buffer size */
	buflen *= 2;

	p = realloc(p, buflen*sizeof(wchar_t));
	if (p == NULL) {
	  fprintf(stderr,_("Unable to allocate bufferspace\n"));
	  exit(1);
	}

	/* And fill the rest of the buffer */
	if (fgetws(&p[len], buflen/2, fp) == NULL) break;

	len = wcslen(p);
      
	/* That was a lot of work for nothing.  Gimme perl! */
      }
		  
      t = p + len - 1 - (*(p+len-1)=='\r' || *(p+len-1)=='\n');
      for ( ; t >= p; --t)
	if (*t != 0)
	  putwchar(*t);
      putwchar('\n');
    }
    fflush(fp);
    if (ferror(fp)) {
      warn("%s: %s", filename, strerror(errno));
      rval = 1;
    }
    if (fclose(fp))
      rval = 1;
  } while(*argv);
  exit(rval);
}

void
warn(const char *fmt, ...)
{
	va_list ap;
	va_start(ap, fmt);
	(void)fprintf(stderr, "rev: ");
	(void)vfprintf(stderr, fmt, ap);
	va_end(ap);
	(void)fprintf(stderr, "\n");
}

void
usage(void)
{
	(void)fprintf(stderr, _("usage: rev [file ...]\n"));
	exit(1);
}


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Re: running mks toolkit and cygwin on same machine

[Thomas Baker]

On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 02:26:24PM +0100, David Starks-Browning wrote:
>        -X or --no-init
>               Disables sending  the  termcap  initialization  and
>               deinitialization  strings to the terminal.  This is
>               sometimes desirable if the deinitialization  string
>               does   something  unnecessary,  like  clearing  the
>               screen.

Thanks David, I never would have caught that...

> I have:
> 
> 	export LESS=-X
>
> in my .bashrc.
> 
> Hopefully you now have no reason to use "more" instead of "less"!

No reason no more indeed,
Tom

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Re: running mks toolkit and cygwin on same machine

[Randall R Schulz]

Tom,

Only NTFS file systems support hard links. Symlinks work on all file systems.

I presume that the symlinks used for command aliases in Setup.exe's 
packages are present in the tarballs themselves, with no extra work (beyond 
embodying the Cygwin tar code or an equivalent) required by Setup.exe. 
That's one of the things about Cygwin TAR that makes it a requirement when 
dealing with TAR archives bearing such Unix TAR features and why other 
"compatible" TAR processors aren't suitable.

Randall


At 06:21 2002-07-10, Thomas Baker wrote:
> > Why?  Works fine for me.  But a hard link of egrep.exe
> > and grep.exe (and fgrep.exe) rather than symlink of
> > egrep -> grep.exe (no .exe) might help.
>
>Hmm, I did not make any links, so assume that setup.exe
>did this:
>
>lrwxrwxrwx    1 Administ       15 May 22 17:53 /usr/bin/egrep -> grep
>
>..and that there must be a good reason why hard links are
>not the default for such things.  Will give this a try when I
>get a chance to read up on what "links" mean under WIN2000...
>
>Thanks,
>Tom


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Re: running mks toolkit and cygwin on same machine

[David Starks-Browning]

On Wednesday 10 Jul 02, Thomas Baker writes:
> I know "less" is better, but sometimes I don't want the output
> to disappear when I exit the pager back to the prompt -- as
> when I have just successfully grepped for an email address.
> Didn't see any flags for that in less (or vim, for that
> matter).

From less(1) man page:

       -X or --no-init
              Disables sending  the  termcap  initialization  and
              deinitialization  strings to the terminal.  This is
              sometimes desirable if the deinitialization  string
              does   something  unnecessary,  like  clearing  the
              screen.

I have:

	export LESS=-X

in my .bashrc.

Hopefully you now have no reason to use "more" instead of "less"!

Regards,
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Re: running mks toolkit and cygwin on same machine

[Thomas Baker]

On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 02:22:39AM -0400, Jon LaBadie wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 05:40:39AM +0200, Thomas Baker wrote:
> > I also installed the ATT ksh -- there was a thread about this
> > two or three weeks ago -- but understand that a KSH package
> > for the standard Cygwin setup is on the way.  Have also had
> > some small problems porting scripts, one of which being that
> > "egrep" must always be changed to "grep -E".
> 
> Why?  Works fine for me.  But a hard link of egrep.exe
> and grep.exe (and fgrep.exe) rather than symlink of
> egrep -> grep.exe (no .exe) might help.

Hmm, I did not make any links, so assume that setup.exe
did this:

lrwxrwxrwx    1 Administ       15 May 22 17:53 /usr/bin/egrep -> grep

..and that there must be a good reason why hard links are
not the default for such things.  Will give this a try when I
get a chance to read up on what "links" mean under WIN2000...

Thanks,
Tom

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Re: running mks toolkit and cygwin on same machine

[Thomas Baker]

On Tue, Jul 09, 2002 at 10:02:38PM -0700, scowles@earthlink.net wrote:
> TB>     more      - sometimes I do not want the text to disappear from
> TB>                 the screen on exit
> 
> /bin/more is part of cygwin on my system (current as of 2 hours ago,
> full install).

I do not see it in the Cygwin Setup Select Packages list.  Is it an
alias of less?

Tom

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Re: running mks toolkit and cygwin on same machine

[Thomas Baker]

Thanks, Randall!  I'm three steps closer to a purely Cygwin 
environment.

On Tue, Jul 09, 2002 at 09:31:01PM -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> - flip
>    Use dos2unix and unix2dos

$ man dos2unix
No manual entry for dos2unix 

Also not in setup.exe??

> - more
>    Available, as is "less" a superior alternative

I know "less" is better, but sometimes I don't want the output
to disappear when I exit the pager back to the prompt -- as
when I have just successfully grepped for an email address.
Didn't see any flags for that in less (or vim, for that
matter).  Not a big deal, can always "| cat"...

Tom

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Re: running mks toolkit and cygwin on same machine

[Jason Tishler]

Paul,

On Tue, Jul 09, 2002 at 05:35:09PM +0000, Paul Coltrin wrote:
> I am finding that converting scripts from MKS ksh to Cygwin/ATT ksh
> is not trivial.

I'm trying to wean co-workers off of MKS myself.  Would you be willing
to post the issues that you have under covered so far?

Thanks,
Jason

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Re: running mks toolkit and cygwin on same machine

[John Vincent]

Hi,

I guess you'll hate me for mentioning this, but if
it's going into cygutils, please implement the
options --help and --version to do the obvious things.

Unless you're going to do a couple of pages of text for
info/man etc. :-))


/John Vincent.


>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Christopher Faylor" <cgf@redhat.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 2:51 PM
>
>
>
>>On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 02:48:52PM +1000, Robert Collins wrote:
>> >Why not just roll-your own 'rev'?
>..
>> >Compile with
>> >g++ -o rev.exe rev.cc
>>
>>Sounds like a candidate for cygutils...
>
>Fine by me. It's probably even codeable in bash/ash scripting, but I'm >not 
>a
>shell guru.
>And, it's hardly likely to require maintenance :}.
>
>Rob
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Re: running mks toolkit and cygwin on same machine

[Jon LaBadie]

On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 06:02:25AM +0200, Thomas Baker wrote:

>     rev       - reverse order of characters in a line

Included in the AT&T "ast" package for cygwin.

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Re: running mks toolkit and cygwin on same machine

[Jon LaBadie]

On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 05:40:39AM +0200, Thomas Baker wrote:
> 
> I also installed the ATT ksh -- there was a thread about this
> two or three weeks ago -- but understand that a KSH package
> for the standard Cygwin setup is on the way.  Have also had
> some small problems porting scripts, one of which being that
> "egrep" must always be changed to "grep -E".

Why?  Works fine for me.  But a hard link of egrep.exe
and grep.exe (and fgrep.exe) rather than symlink of
egrep -> grep.exe (no .exe) might help.

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Re: running mks toolkit and cygwin on same machine

[scowles]

Tuesday, July 9, 2002, 9:02:25 PM, you wrote:

TB> On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 05:40:39AM +0200, Thomas Baker wrote:

TB> Though Cygwin seems to have left MKS in the dust for most
TB> of the functions I am interested in -- vim vs. vi, mutt
TB> vs. mailx, fetchmail vs. something-that-didn't-work-for-me,
TB> procmail vs. nothing -- there are a few commands that I still
TB> use in their MKS versions:

TB>     cpio      - is this out of fashion now, or what?

yes, it is.  the big difference between cpio and tar in ages past was
that cpio could handle devices.  (arguably, complete lists in
configuration management are handled much easier by cpio's stdin
filename input method).  however, gnutar now handles devices just as well.
in addition, gnutar handles major compression techniques internally.
source for gnu cpio (i have used ver. 2.4.2 for years) is readily
available and compiles ootb on cygwin.  it handles all of my ancient
archives from multiple platforms.

TB>     flip      - changes CRLF endings; no equivalent in Cygwin?

easy to do in any shell:  invoke /bin/tr to do the translation
you need.  e.g.  for cr to lf:  cat $file | /bin/tr '\015' '\012'

[for those of you familiar with it, this invocation qualifies for
a Useless Use of cat award.
(http://www.ling.helsinki.fi/~reriksso/unix/award.html).  however,
it generalizes the technique for this example and easily allows for
rapid substitution of other i/o methods.]

TB>     more      - sometimes I do not want the text to disappear from
TB>                 the screen on exit

/bin/more is part of cygwin on my system (current as of 2 hours ago,
full install).

TB>     find/grep - the MKS versions can handle larger numbers of 
TB>                 arguments, though xargs solves the problem in Cygwin

qed.

TB>     rev       - reverse order of characters in a line

in zsh, the following works fine (credit to Bart Schaefer and Steve
Talley):

02-07-09
21:45:11 [551] host:./tmp% a="string"
02-07-09
21:46:08 [552] host:./tmp% eval a\=\( \"\$a\[{$#a..1}\]\" \)
02-07-09
21:46:12 [553] host:./tmp% echo $a
g n i r t s


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Re: running mks toolkit and cygwin on same machine

[Randall R Schulz]

Thomas,

- cpio
   Available, though little used, to my knowledge
- flip
   Use dos2unix and unix2dos
- more
   Available, as is "less" a superior alternative
- find / grep (arg list limits)
   All Unix / POSIX systems have argument list length limits,
   which is at least one reason why "xargs" exists.
- rev
   Unavailable, as far as I know

Randall Schulz
Mountain View, CA USA


At 21:02 2002-07-09, Thomas Baker wrote:
>On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 05:40:39AM +0200, Thomas Baker wrote:
> > I also installed the ATT ksh -- there was a thread about this
> > two or three weeks ago -- but understand that a KSH package
> > for the standard Cygwin setup is on the way.  Have also had
> > some small problems porting scripts, one of which being that
> > "egrep" must always be changed to "grep -E".
>
>Though Cygwin seems to have left MKS in the dust for most
>of the functions I am interested in -- vim vs. vi, mutt
>vs. mailx, fetchmail vs. something-that-didn't-work-for-me,
>procmail vs. nothing -- there are a few commands that I still
>use in their MKS versions:
>
>     cpio      - is this out of fashion now, or what?
>     flip      - changes CRLF endings; no equivalent in Cygwin?
>     more      - sometimes I do not want the text to disappear from
>                 the screen on exit
>     find/grep - the MKS versions can handle larger numbers of
>                 arguments, though xargs solves the problem in Cygwin
>     rev       - reverse order of characters in a line
>
>Tom


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Re: running mks toolkit and cygwin on same machine

[Thomas Baker]

On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 05:40:39AM +0200, Thomas Baker wrote:
> I also installed the ATT ksh -- there was a thread about this
> two or three weeks ago -- but understand that a KSH package
> for the standard Cygwin setup is on the way.  Have also had
> some small problems porting scripts, one of which being that
> "egrep" must always be changed to "grep -E".

Though Cygwin seems to have left MKS in the dust for most
of the functions I am interested in -- vim vs. vi, mutt
vs. mailx, fetchmail vs. something-that-didn't-work-for-me,
procmail vs. nothing -- there are a few commands that I still
use in their MKS versions:

    cpio      - is this out of fashion now, or what?
    flip      - changes CRLF endings; no equivalent in Cygwin?
    more      - sometimes I do not want the text to disappear from
                the screen on exit
    find/grep - the MKS versions can handle larger numbers of 
                arguments, though xargs solves the problem in Cygwin
    rev       - reverse order of characters in a line

Tom

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Re: running mks toolkit and cygwin on same machine

[Thomas Baker]

On Tue, Jul 09, 2002 at 05:35:09PM +0000, Paul Coltrin wrote:
> >From my limited experience, they seem to co-exist reasonably well.
> But it depends on what you need to do.  Unless it has changed very
> recently, the Cygwin installer does not contain a ksh.  I have
> downloaded and installed the ATT ksh into my Cygwin installation but
> I am finding that converting scripts from MKS ksh to Cygwin/ATT ksh
> is not trivial.

After installing Cygwin on a WIN2000 system with an existing
MKS installation, the two installations seemed to "lock horns".

I was able to establish peace by removing the MKS-related
environment variables from the system configuration (Start ->
Settings -> Control Panel -> System -> Advanced -> Environment
Variables) and moving them into profile.ksh.  Specifically:

	MKS_TK_PATH_BACK
	NUTCROOT
	ROOTDIR
	SHELL
	TERM (value had been "nutc")
	TERMCAP (value had been "E:\MKS\etc\termcap")
	TERMINFO (value had been "E:\MKS\usr\lib\terminfo")

In particular, the TERM* values seemed to be causing of alot
of the problems; Cygwin likes TERM=cygwin.

I also installed the ATT ksh -- there was a thread about this
two or three weeks ago -- but understand that a KSH package
for the standard Cygwin setup is on the way.  Have also had
some small problems porting scripts, one of which being that
"egrep" must always be changed to "grep -E".

Tom

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Re: running mks toolkit and cygwin on same machine

[Paul Coltrin]

Scott,

From my limited experience, they seem to co-exist reasonably well.
But it depends on what you need to do.  Unless it has changed very
recently, the Cygwin installer does not contain a ksh.  I have
downloaded and installed the ATT ksh into my Cygwin installation but
I am finding that converting scripts from MKS ksh to Cygwin/ATT ksh
is not trivial.

Paul Coltrin


At 08:52 AM 7/9/02 -0700, Scott Dudley wrote:
>
>does anyone have experiences with running mks toolkit and cygwin on the 
>same machine?  my company's customers run mks but i'd very much like to 
>attempt a cygwin test on one of these systems.
>
>many thanks.
>
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running mks toolkit and cygwin on same machine

[Scott Dudley]

does anyone have experiences with running mks toolkit and cygwin on the 
same machine?  my company's customers run mks but i'd very much like to 
attempt a cygwin test on one of these systems.

many thanks.

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