From: Jon Cast <jcast@ou.edu>
To: cygwin@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: gzip.exe as symlink breaks NTEmacs's jka-compr.el
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:27:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200207170118.g6H1IQS28105@d-ip-129-15-78-125.cs.ou.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Message from Randall R Schulz <rrschulz@cris.com> of "Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:45:12 PDT." <5.1.0.14.2.20020716083826.01f845a0@pop3.cris.com>
Randall R Schulz <rrschulz@cris.com> wrote:
<snip>
> I may have missed something (please forgive me for not re-reading
> the thread), but why is a non-Cygwin program (NTEmacs) relying on a
> Cygwin tool?
Because Emacs is a Unix program. It's been evolved to deliver very
nearly to full power of the Unix environment, and as such uses /many/
Unix tools. Many of those tools are not easily available on Windows,
but if Emacs finds a copy of them, it'll use them anyway. This is a
feature, not a bug.
> Surely it can be configured to use the correct one, right?
If there's a Windows gzip installed, you can customize Emacs to use
it. But why install two gzips?
> If NTEmacs doesn't include it's own gzip / gunzip, then editing a
> compressed file wouldn't even be possible without Cygwin installed,
s/Cygwin/gzip/. Of course you can't edit
> so it seems incumbent upon NTEmacs to deal with the challenges of
> doing so in their most generic form.
Why does Emacs have to work around this conceit that all the world
should be a Cygwin program, when /making gzip work from Emacs/ is so
much easier? Consider: Cygwin is a Unix emulation environment, right?
So if every program was a Cygwin program, every program would be a
Unix program, and we could all use Unix. Cygwin exists because some
people have to use Windows programs. Ergo, Cygwin cannot pretend
Windows programs do not exist.
> There is, for example, the "readlink" command that resolves a Cygwin
> symbolic link.
> Randall Schulz
> Mountain View, CA USA
Jon Cast
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Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-07-15 2:20 Matt Swift
2002-07-15 2:26 ` Robert Collins
2002-07-15 5:36 ` gzip.exe as symlink Max Bowsher
2002-07-15 5:38 ` Robert Collins
2002-07-15 12:41 ` Jon Cast
2002-07-15 14:47 ` Nicholas Wourms
2002-07-15 15:57 ` Robert Collins
2002-07-15 22:22 ` Max Bowsher
2002-07-15 9:21 ` Dario Alcocer
2002-07-15 12:02 ` gzip.exe as symlink breaks NTEmacs's jka-compr.el Jon Cast
2002-07-15 17:05 ` Gerrit P. Haase
2002-07-16 8:59 ` Matt Swift
2002-07-16 9:14 ` David Starks-Browning
2002-07-16 9:17 ` Nicholas Wourms
2002-07-16 10:21 ` Randall R Schulz
2002-07-16 19:27 ` Jon Cast [this message]
2002-07-16 19:43 ` Randall R Schulz
2002-07-16 19:51 ` Jon Cast
2002-07-16 20:12 ` Randall R Schulz
2002-07-16 20:14 ` Robert Collins
2002-07-16 23:05 ` Randall R Schulz
2002-07-16 23:42 ` Robert Collins
2002-07-17 0:53 ` Randall R Schulz
2002-07-17 0:58 ` Christopher Faylor
2002-07-17 0:59 ` Robert Collins
2002-07-16 20:36 ` Jon Cast
2002-07-16 23:54 ` Randall R Schulz
2002-07-18 17:08 ` Jon Cast
2002-07-16 19:49 ` Nicholas Wourms
2002-07-16 19:52 ` Jon Cast
2002-07-15 15:46 gzip.exe as symlink Robinow, David
2002-07-15 15:48 ` Nicholas Wourms
2002-07-16 18:51 ` Jon Cast
2002-07-16 18:50 files and directories distinction: Aldi Kraja
2002-07-16 19:34 ` Randall R Schulz
2002-07-16 19:37 ` Jon Cast
[not found] <rrschulz@cris.com>
2003-03-29 4:00 ` Mozilla 1.3 built on cygwin? Jeff.Hodges
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