From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 7142 invoked by alias); 22 Jul 2002 05:10:20 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Received: (qmail 7134 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2002 05:10:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ns.helixdigital.com) (68.15.28.22) by sources.redhat.com with SMTP; 22 Jul 2002 05:10:19 -0000 Received: from ns.helixdigital.com (alcocer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ns.helixdigital.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g6M5AJfs019744 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 22:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from alcocer@localhost) by ns.helixdigital.com (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g6M593iY011329 for cygwin@cygwin.com; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 22:09:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 01:09:00 -0000 From: Dario Alcocer To: cygwin@cygwin.com Subject: Re: FYI: HTML targets in "Smart Questions" Message-ID: <20020721220903.A28186@ns.helixdigital.com> References: <20020721184520.A28726@ns.helixdigital.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: ; from jim@idk-enterprises.com on Sun, Jul 21, 2002 at 10:03:57PM -0400 X-SW-Source: 2002-07/txt/msg01679.txt.bz2 On Sun, Jul 21, 2002 at 10:03:57PM -0400, Jim Balcom wrote: > On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, Dario Alcocer wrote: > > DA>>The idea is not split the list, but for initial posters (from what > DA>>I've seen on this list, most first-time posters qualify as newbies) > DA>>to get a quick lesson in posting meaningful questions *before* they > DA>>get to post (only for the first post.) That's why I suggested the > DA>>poster, before they're allowed to post for the first time, get an > DA>>e-mail asking them (in a cordial tone, obviously) that they *please* > DA>>read the ESR essay *first*[1]. > > I find your assumption that all first time posters are newbies and need to > be trained offensive. Please read *carefully* what I wrote: I said "MOST first-time posters", which obviously doesn't mean the same thing as "ALL first time posters" (what you wrote, my emphasis.) Of course I've generalized, but in this particular case, the generalization will do little harm [1]. > The fact that newbies questions get ignored is upsetting. No, you didn't bother to *carefully* read what I wrote. (Please take the time now to read what I wrote again... I'll wait... Done? OK, let's continue...) Again, what I said is that a first-time poster would have to read ESRs essay first; once they *read* the essay, they would be *allowed* to post their question. The idea is that they will hopefully make sure their question were properly *researched* and *formulated* to increase the chances of it getting answered. As should be obvious from actually reading what I wrote, I'm not advocating ignoring newbies, just educating them. == Footnotes == [1] - The worst this generalization would lead to with respect to my proposed "pseudo moderation" solution is force non-newbie first-time posters to receive a single message with a link to ESRs essay. I *doubt* many non-newbie first-time posters would take umbrage. -- Dario Alcocer -- Sr. Software Developer, Helix Digital Inc. alcocer@helixdigital.com -- http://www.helixdigital.com -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/