From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24326 invoked by alias); 22 Jul 2002 03:33:55 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Received: (qmail 24313 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2002 03:33:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO redhat.com) (66.30.22.225) by sources.redhat.com with SMTP; 22 Jul 2002 03:33:53 -0000 Received: by redhat.com (Postfix, from userid 201) id B1CB31B405; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 23:33:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 23:04:00 -0000 From: Christopher Faylor To: cygwin@cygwin.com Subject: Re: FYI: HTML targets in "Smart Questions" Message-ID: <20020722033356.GA12929@redhat.com> Reply-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com References: <20020721184520.A28726@ns.helixdigital.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.1i X-SW-Source: 2002-07/txt/msg01669.txt.bz2 On Sun, Jul 21, 2002 at 10:03:57PM -0400, Jim Balcom wrote: >On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, Dario Alcocer wrote: >>The idea is not split the list, but for initial posters (from what I've >>seen on this list, most first-time posters qualify as newbies) to get a >>quick lesson in posting meaningful questions *before* they get to post >>(only for the first post.) That's why I suggested the poster, before >>they're allowed to post for the first time, get an e-mail asking them >>(in a cordial tone, obviously) that they *please* read the ESR essay >>*first*[1]. > >I find your assumption that all first time posters are newbies and need >to be trained offensive. This is perplexing since, AFAICT, your first question in this mailing list asked to be "steered to the answer". Obviously you were a newbie needing to be trained yourself. >The fact that newbies questions get ignored is upsetting. Newbies *aren't* ignored. Or at least, I'd estimate that the vast majority of newbie questions are responded to. >Nicholas W?'s attitude is horrible! Where did this come from? Nicholas hasn't even responded to this thread. As I can't recall Nicholas ever randomly attacking anyone, I'd have to say that I vastly prefer his attitude to yours. He actually seems to be going well out of his way to be helpful. He answers questions in this forum and he actually contributes *his time* in trying to improve cygwin. Rather than giving vent to unconstructive whines, he actually tries to improve the process. >I've learned that this is not a package that I need to waste any more time >on. I've heard that it is great. But, like OS/2, it won't install and no >help is available for simple problems. If you are referring to your message with the subject "Installation Problem???" sent today at 6:51PM EDT, then chill, dude. Did you happen to notice that it is Sunday? This mailing list is no different from any other. It's not a paid tech support service. People answer (or not) as they notice the question. Or perhaps you are miffed by the fact that no one responded to your first request, made in reply to a totally unrelated subject (Server Port?). In this attempt, you quoted some of the previous email transactions from that thread and somehow tried to equate it to your situation even though there was no hint whatsoever that it had anything to do with your problem. This is a *classic* newbie mistake and is actually covered in the smart questions url. Regardless, the question has now been answered. Since you are still subscribed to the mailing list as of this writing, hopefully the answer will do you some good. As mentioned, this whole thread is about asking smart questions. I strongly suspect that you are having an inexplicable emotional response to something that was not focused at you personally and have not availed yourself of the referenced URL. Do yourself a favor and start reading here: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html . That page has a reference to the smart question url as well as several other hints. cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/