Traceroute?

Traceroute?

[John Perry]

I was wondering if "traceroute" is available for the Cygwin? I didn't find
it in the packages archive.

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RE: Traceroute?

[Dan Vasaru]

Hi John,

In case you'll settle for a non-cygwin application, traceroute is available
on NT platforms as "tracert.exe"

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I was wondering if "traceroute" is available for the Cygwin? I didn't find
it in the packages archive.

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RE: Traceroute?

[John Perry]

On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, Dan Vasaru wrote:

-> Hi John,
->
-> In case you'll settle for a non-cygwin application, traceroute is available
-> on NT platforms as "tracert.exe"

Yeah. I knew that. :) It turns out I spend 99% of my time in Cygwin now
and just wanted it for this platform. I guess I can always open a Dos
window. :(

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Re: Traceroute?

[Peter Wohlers]

John Perry wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, Dan Vasaru wrote:
> 
> -> Hi John,
> ->
> -> In case you'll settle for a non-cygwin application, traceroute is available
> -> on NT platforms as "tracert.exe"
> 
> Yeah. I knew that. :) It turns out I spend 99% of my time in Cygwin now
> and just wanted it for this platform. I guess I can always open a Dos
> window. :(
> 


Sounds like you've got a path problem.

something like this in your .bashrc might help....

export PATH=$PATH:/cygdrive/c/WINNT/system32

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Re: Traceroute?

[James Garrison]

John Perry wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, Dan Vasaru wrote:
> 
> Yeah. I knew that. :) It turns out I spend 99% of my time in Cygwin now
> and just wanted it for this platform. I guess I can always open a Dos
> window. :(

Cygwin is *supposed* to automatically be able to run almost all Windows
binaries.  You should be able to run tracert from a Cygwin (or rxvt)
window without doing anything special.  (note the command is tracert
in Windoze, not traceroute).


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RE: Traceroute?

[Randall R Schulz]

John,

Cygwin is not a world apart. You can invoke Windows tracert (and all other 
Windows executables) directly from Cygwin.

For commonly used commands that reside in a directory I don't otherwise 
want in my PATH, I just define aliases or shell functions in my .bashrc.

Randall Schulz
Mountain View, CA USA


At 14:39 2002-09-09, John Perry wrote:
>On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, Dan Vasaru wrote:
>
>-> Hi John,
>->
>-> In case you'll settle for a non-cygwin application, traceroute is available
>-> on NT platforms as "tracert.exe"
>
>Yeah. I knew that. :) It turns out I spend 99% of my time in Cygwin now
>and just wanted it for this platform. I guess I can always open a Dos
>window. :(
>
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RE: Traceroute?

[Igor Pechtchanski]

$ ln -s /cygdrive/c/WINNT/system32/tracert.exe /usr/local/bin/traceroute.exe
	Igor

On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, Randall R Schulz wrote:

> John,
>
> Cygwin is not a world apart. You can invoke Windows tracert (and all other
> Windows executables) directly from Cygwin.
>
> For commonly used commands that reside in a directory I don't otherwise
> want in my PATH, I just define aliases or shell functions in my .bashrc.
>
> Randall Schulz
> Mountain View, CA USA
>
>
> At 14:39 2002-09-09, John Perry wrote:
> >On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, Dan Vasaru wrote:
> >
> >-> Hi John,
> >->
> >-> In case you'll settle for a non-cygwin application, traceroute is available
> >-> on NT platforms as "tracert.exe"
> >
> >Yeah. I knew that. :) It turns out I spend 99% of my time in Cygwin now
> >and just wanted it for this platform. I guess I can always open a Dos
> >window. :(

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RE: Traceroute?

[Nicholas Wourms]

--- Randall R Schulz <rrschulz@cris.com> wrote:
> John,
> 
> Cygwin is not a world apart. You can invoke Windows tracert (and
> all other 
> Windows executables) directly from Cygwin.
> 
> For commonly used commands that reside in a directory I don't
> otherwise 
> want in my PATH, I just define aliases or shell functions in my
> .bashrc.
> 

Well I think the real issue is some missing functionality in the
tcp/ip interface within Cygwin.  Alas, the icmp headers seem to be
missing as well as ip_var.h/tcp_var.h/udp_var.h.  Too bad I don't
know enough about lowlevel windows tcp/ip, otherwise I'd jump on
trying to fix the holes in the current tcp/ip stack.

I think, many times, people get caught up in the argument that well
windows already has so-and-so tool.  Well that's nice, but sometimes
the windows version of the tool sucks.  In this case I'm inclined to
say windows traceroute is barely acceptable.  I much prefer the
version that comes with bsd/*nix (ee.lbl.gov).  Here's how they
compare:

Windows
-------
Usage: tracert [-d] [-h maximum_hops] [-j host-list] [-w timeout]
target_name

Options:
    -d                 Do not resolve addresses to hostnames.
    -h maximum_hops    Maximum number of hops to search for target.
    -j host-list       Loose source route along host-list.
    -w timeout         Wait timeout milliseconds for each reply.

*nix
-----
       traceroute [ -dFInrvx ] [ -f first_ttl ] [ -g gateway ]
               [ -i iface ] [ -m max_ttl ] [ -p port ]
               [ -q nqueries ] [ -s src_addr ] [ -t tos ]
               [ -w waittime ] [ -z pausemsecs ]
               host [ packetlen ]

Obviously the *nix version provides for a finer granularity of
control whereas the windows version is rather spartan.

Oh well, since I can't submit a patch I guess I should shutup now...

Cheers,
Nicholas

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RE: Traceroute?

[Randall R Schulz]

Igor,

I don't think that's advisable. I foresee problems when "traceroute" 
appears to exist yet does not act like Unix traceroute. Most especially if 
a script tries to use it. Heaven forefend that some auto-configure script 
out there looks for traceroute for some reason.

Better to acknowledge that it's a similarly named program with similar 
capabilities but not try to pretend it's the same program that's found 
under Unix.

Randall Schulz
Mountain View, CA USA


At 15:44 2002-09-09, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
>$ ln -s /cygdrive/c/WINNT/system32/tracert.exe /usr/local/bin/traceroute.exe
>         Igor
>
>On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, Randall R Schulz wrote:
>
> > John,
> >
> > Cygwin is not a world apart. You can invoke Windows tracert (and all other
> > Windows executables) directly from Cygwin.
> >
> > For commonly used commands that reside in a directory I don't otherwise
> > want in my PATH, I just define aliases or shell functions in my .bashrc.
> >
> > Randall Schulz
> > Mountain View, CA USA
> >
> >
> > At 14:39 2002-09-09, John Perry wrote:
> > >On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, Dan Vasaru wrote:
> > >
> > >-> Hi John,
> > >->
> > >-> In case you'll settle for a non-cygwin application, traceroute is 
> available
> > >-> on NT platforms as "tracert.exe"
> > >
> > >Yeah. I knew that. :) It turns out I spend 99% of my time in Cygwin now
> > >and just wanted it for this platform. I guess I can always open a Dos
> > >window. :(


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Re: Traceroute?

[Igor Pechtchanski]

Randy,
It's worked for me so far.  But I see your point.
	Igor

On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, Randall R Schulz wrote:

> Igor,
>
> I don't think that's advisable. I foresee problems when "traceroute"
> appears to exist yet does not act like Unix traceroute. Most especially if
> a script tries to use it. Heaven forefend that some auto-configure script
> out there looks for traceroute for some reason.
>
> Better to acknowledge that it's a similarly named program with similar
> capabilities but not try to pretend it's the same program that's found
> under Unix.
>
> Randall Schulz
> Mountain View, CA USA
>
>
> At 15:44 2002-09-09, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
> >$ ln -s /cygdrive/c/WINNT/system32/tracert.exe /usr/local/bin/traceroute.exe
> >         Igor
> >
> >On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> >
> > > John,
> > >
> > > Cygwin is not a world apart. You can invoke Windows tracert (and all other
> > > Windows executables) directly from Cygwin.
> > >
> > > For commonly used commands that reside in a directory I don't otherwise
> > > want in my PATH, I just define aliases or shell functions in my .bashrc.
> > >
> > > Randall Schulz
> > > Mountain View, CA USA
> > >
> > >
> > > At 14:39 2002-09-09, John Perry wrote:
> > > >On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, Dan Vasaru wrote:
> > > >
> > > >-> Hi John,
> > > >->
> > > >-> In case you'll settle for a non-cygwin application, traceroute is
> > > >-> available on NT platforms as "tracert.exe"
> > > >
> > > >Yeah. I knew that. :) It turns out I spend 99% of my time in Cygwin now
> > > >and just wanted it for this platform. I guess I can always open a Dos
> > > >window. :(

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RE: Traceroute?

[Gary R. Van Sickle]

[snip]

> I think, many times, people get caught up in the argument that well
> windows already has so-and-so tool.  Well that's nice, but sometimes
> the windows version of the tool sucks.

WHAT?!?!?!?  You mean bash makes the very latest cmd.exe look like a sick
joke?!?!??  I just don't buy it!

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