Re: telnet - connection refused in windows xp home

Re: telnet - connection refused in windows xp home

[kumarchi]

Hi,

I think what you mean is that you do not have the means to set the local or
domain security policy and give the user you want to run inetd as the
*special* permissions required to RunAs service wise. This facility does
not exist in the Home edition of Windows XP, where you can grant security
policy permissions, but as I have heard it does support it in Professional.

As you cant change these permissions you'll just have to use the
LocalSystem (SYSTEM) account to run the inetd service. When using XP Home I
was able to get all of the cygwin daemons I use (ftpd,inetd,sshd) running
as well as they were on their Windows 2000 counterparts. The LocalSystem
account is the default user to run a service as on Windows NT4/5 and XP.

Elfyn
elfyn@exposure.org.uk

Original Message:
-----------------
From: Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) lhall@rfk.com
Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 23:06:03 -0500
To: kumarchi@attbi.com, cygwin@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: telnet - connection refused in windows xp home
You are right. However I am unable to figure out how to login as LocalSystem 
(SYSTEM in /etc/passwd?).

xp home does not list SYSTEM or even Adminstrator as a selectable user.
thanks , be patient please I am getting there!!
*********************************************************************

At 04:41 PM 12/7/2002, kumarchi@attbi.com wrote:
>I am unable to use remote connection to my pc(s) running windows xp home.
>After going through the inetutils documentation, and looking  at the
services 
>under windows xp, I can see that inetd is not running. I am also unable to 
>start the inetd. According to the documentation it must be because some 
>special permissions I need but which I cannot set in xp home.


Perhaps you can be more specific about this special permission and why you
can't set it.   



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Re: telnet - connection refused in windows xp home

[kumarchi]

That did the trick. Now the telnet etc works!

1. I added c:\cygwin\bin to the WINDOWS path 

2. I also I modified the cygwin bash shell I prepended /usr/sbin.

thanx
> kumarchi@attbi.com wrote:
> 
> > hello:
> >
> > I finally see the Cygwin inetd under services. But when I try to start 
> > it I
> > get the follwoing error
> >
> > error 1053: the service did not respond to the start or control 
> > request in a
> > timely fashion
> >
> Have you tried adding your Cygwin bin (typically C:\Cygwin\bin) to the 
> front of your Windows *SYSTEM* Environment Variables and rebooting?
> 

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Re: telnet - connection refused in windows xp home

[Andrew DeFaria]

kumarchi@attbi.com wrote:

> hello:
>
> I finally see the Cygwin inetd under services. But when I try to start 
> it I
> get the follwoing error
>
> error 1053: the service did not respond to the start or control 
> request in a
> timely fashion
>
Have you tried adding your Cygwin bin (typically C:\Cygwin\bin) to the 
front of your Windows *SYSTEM* Environment Variables and rebooting?




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Re: telnet - connection refused in windows xp home

[kumarchi]

hello:

I finally see the Cygwin inetd under services. But when I try to start it I 
get the follwoing error

error 1053: the service did not respond to the start or control request in a 
timely fashion
> Hi,
> 
> Go through these steps and see what happens:
> 
> 1. Run these commands
> 
>   $ /usr/sbin/inetd --remove-as-service
>   $ /usr/bin/iu-config
> 
> Answer the q's depending on whether or not to keep the existing files.
> Replace your old inetd.conf, and backup if you need to keep the old copy.
> 
>   $ /usr/sbin/inetd --install-as-service
> 
> 2. Reboot your machine !!!
> 
> 3. After reboot, open up a cmd.exe console and run this:
> 
>   C:\> netstat -an |less
> 
> If you see port 23 in a LISTENING state then it's worked partly. Also check
> for other inetd ports like 22 (ftp) etc. and see if you can connect to them.
> 
> 4. try and connect to your telnet server (localhost:23).
> 
> If you cant connect then im stumped! Check your event log if you have
> problems and report back ;)
> 
> Elfyn
> elfyn@exposure.org.uk
> 
> Original Message:
> -----------------
> From:  kumarchi@attbi.com
> Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 15:10:27 +0000
> To: cygwin@cygwin.com, elfyn-cygwin@mail.exposure.org.uk
> Subject: Re: telnet - connection refused in windows xp home 
> 
> 
> here is what i get (using my administrator 'privilege')
> inetd --install-as-service
> 
> inetd does not show up in services
> 
> when I run
> 
> net start inetd
> 
> macro$ollar replies
> 
> The service is not responding to the control function --(must be some type
> of 
> Orwellian monster!)
> 
> More help is available by typing NET HELPMSG 2186
> 
> 
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > You may not see it in whatever XP calls the user manager but its there!
> > trust me. As your using the Home edition Microdollars (Microsoft) just
> > hides certain users and groups.
> > 
> > What happens when you run the inetd daemon normally (i.e. installing inetd
> > with `inetd --install')?
> > 
> > Elfyn
> > elfyn@exposure.org.uk
> > 
> > Original Message:
> > -----------------
> > From:  kumarchi@attbi.com
> > Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 13:04:19 +0000
> > To: cygwin@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Re: telnet - connection refused in windows xp home 
> > 
> > [snip]...
> > 
> > xp home does not list SYSTEM or even Adminstrator as a selectable user.
> > thanks , be patient please I am getting there!!
> > *********************************************************************
> > 
> > At 04:41 PM 12/7/2002, kumarchi@attbi.com wrote:
> > >I am unable to use remote connection to my pc(s) running windows xp home.
> > >After going through the inetutils documentation, and looking  at the
> > services 
> > >under windows xp, I can see that inetd is not running. I am also unable
> to 
> > >start the inetd. According to the documentation it must be because some 
> > >special permissions I need but which I cannot set in xp home.
> > 
> > 
> > Perhaps you can be more specific about this special permission and why you
> > can't set it.   
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: telnet - connection refused in windows xp home

[kumarchi]

I did the steps and when I did the netstat after rebooting 
I did not see the port 23.
The event log also does not have anything unusual.

Anyway the original problem in firing up inetd as an Administrator which I 
understand is not sufficient. I thought the permissions are not sufficient and 
you have to somehow look like the SYSTEM itself.

> Hi,
> 
> Go through these steps and see what happens:
> 
> 1. Run these commands
> 
>   $ /usr/sbin/inetd --remove-as-service
>   $ /usr/bin/iu-config
> 
> Answer the q's depending on whether or not to keep the existing files.
> Replace your old inetd.conf, and backup if you need to keep the old copy.
> 
>   $ /usr/sbin/inetd --install-as-service
> 
> 2. Reboot your machine !!!
> 
> 3. After reboot, open up a cmd.exe console and run this:
> 
>   C:\> netstat -an |less
> 
> If you see port 23 in a LISTENING state then it's worked partly. Also check
> for other inetd ports like 22 (ftp) etc. and see if you can connect to them.
> 
> 4. try and connect to your telnet server (localhost:23).
> 
> If you cant connect then im stumped! Check your event log if you have
> problems and report back ;)
> 
> Elfyn
> elfyn@exposure.org.uk
> 
> Original Message:
> -----------------
> From:  kumarchi@attbi.com
> Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 15:10:27 +0000
> To: cygwin@cygwin.com, elfyn-cygwin@mail.exposure.org.uk
> Subject: Re: telnet - connection refused in windows xp home 
> 
> 
> here is what i get (using my administrator 'privilege')
> inetd --install-as-service
> 
> inetd does not show up in services
> 
> when I run
> 
> net start inetd
> 
> macro$ollar replies
> 
> The service is not responding to the control function --(must be some type
> of 
> Orwellian monster!)
> 
> More help is available by typing NET HELPMSG 2186
> 
> 
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > You may not see it in whatever XP calls the user manager but its there!
> > trust me. As your using the Home edition Microdollars (Microsoft) just
> > hides certain users and groups.
> > 
> > What happens when you run the inetd daemon normally (i.e. installing inetd
> > with `inetd --install')?
> > 
> > Elfyn
> > elfyn@exposure.org.uk
> > 
> > Original Message:
> > -----------------
> > From:  kumarchi@attbi.com
> > Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 13:04:19 +0000
> > To: cygwin@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Re: telnet - connection refused in windows xp home 
> > 
> > [snip]...
> > 
> > xp home does not list SYSTEM or even Adminstrator as a selectable user.
> > thanks , be patient please I am getting there!!
> > *********************************************************************
> > 
> > At 04:41 PM 12/7/2002, kumarchi@attbi.com wrote:
> > >I am unable to use remote connection to my pc(s) running windows xp home.
> > >After going through the inetutils documentation, and looking  at the
> > services 
> > >under windows xp, I can see that inetd is not running. I am also unable
> to 
> > >start the inetd. According to the documentation it must be because some 
> > >special permissions I need but which I cannot set in xp home.
> > 
> > 
> > Perhaps you can be more specific about this special permission and why you
> > can't set it.   
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: telnet - connection refused in windows xp home

[elfyn-cygwin]

Hi,

Go through these steps and see what happens:

1. Run these commands

  $ /usr/sbin/inetd --remove-as-service
  $ /usr/bin/iu-config

Answer the q's depending on whether or not to keep the existing files.
Replace your old inetd.conf, and backup if you need to keep the old copy.

  $ /usr/sbin/inetd --install-as-service

2. Reboot your machine !!!

3. After reboot, open up a cmd.exe console and run this:

  C:\> netstat -an |less

If you see port 23 in a LISTENING state then it's worked partly. Also check
for other inetd ports like 22 (ftp) etc. and see if you can connect to them.

4. try and connect to your telnet server (localhost:23).

If you cant connect then im stumped! Check your event log if you have
problems and report back ;)

Elfyn
elfyn@exposure.org.uk

Original Message:
-----------------
From:  kumarchi@attbi.com
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 15:10:27 +0000
To: cygwin@cygwin.com, elfyn-cygwin@mail.exposure.org.uk
Subject: Re: telnet - connection refused in windows xp home 


here is what i get (using my administrator 'privilege')
inetd --install-as-service

inetd does not show up in services

when I run

net start inetd

macro$ollar replies

The service is not responding to the control function --(must be some type
of 
Orwellian monster!)

More help is available by typing NET HELPMSG 2186



> Hi,
> 
> You may not see it in whatever XP calls the user manager but its there!
> trust me. As your using the Home edition Microdollars (Microsoft) just
> hides certain users and groups.
> 
> What happens when you run the inetd daemon normally (i.e. installing inetd
> with `inetd --install')?
> 
> Elfyn
> elfyn@exposure.org.uk
> 
> Original Message:
> -----------------
> From:  kumarchi@attbi.com
> Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 13:04:19 +0000
> To: cygwin@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: telnet - connection refused in windows xp home 
> 
> [snip]...
> 
> xp home does not list SYSTEM or even Adminstrator as a selectable user.
> thanks , be patient please I am getting there!!
> *********************************************************************
> 
> At 04:41 PM 12/7/2002, kumarchi@attbi.com wrote:
> >I am unable to use remote connection to my pc(s) running windows xp home.
> >After going through the inetutils documentation, and looking  at the
> services 
> >under windows xp, I can see that inetd is not running. I am also unable
to 
> >start the inetd. According to the documentation it must be because some 
> >special permissions I need but which I cannot set in xp home.
> 
> 
> Perhaps you can be more specific about this special permission and why you
> can't set it.   
> 
> 
> 
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Re: telnet - connection refused in windows xp home

[kumarchi]

here is what i get (using my administrator 'privilege')
inetd --install-as-service

inetd does not show up in services

when I run

net start inetd

macro$ollar replies

The service is not responding to the control function --(must be some type of 
Orwellian monster!)

More help is available by typing NET HELPMSG 2186



> Hi,
> 
> You may not see it in whatever XP calls the user manager but its there!
> trust me. As your using the Home edition Microdollars (Microsoft) just
> hides certain users and groups.
> 
> What happens when you run the inetd daemon normally (i.e. installing inetd
> with `inetd --install')?
> 
> Elfyn
> elfyn@exposure.org.uk
> 
> Original Message:
> -----------------
> From:  kumarchi@attbi.com
> Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 13:04:19 +0000
> To: cygwin@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: telnet - connection refused in windows xp home 
> 
> [snip]...
> 
> xp home does not list SYSTEM or even Adminstrator as a selectable user.
> thanks , be patient please I am getting there!!
> *********************************************************************
> 
> At 04:41 PM 12/7/2002, kumarchi@attbi.com wrote:
> >I am unable to use remote connection to my pc(s) running windows xp home.
> >After going through the inetutils documentation, and looking  at the
> services 
> >under windows xp, I can see that inetd is not running. I am also unable to 
> >start the inetd. According to the documentation it must be because some 
> >special permissions I need but which I cannot set in xp home.
> 
> 
> Perhaps you can be more specific about this special permission and why you
> can't set it.   
> 
> 
> 
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Re: telnet - connection refused in windows xp home

[elfyn-cygwin]

Hi,

You may not see it in whatever XP calls the user manager but its there!
trust me. As your using the Home edition Microdollars (Microsoft) just
hides certain users and groups.

What happens when you run the inetd daemon normally (i.e. installing inetd
with `inetd --install')?

Elfyn
elfyn@exposure.org.uk

Original Message:
-----------------
From:  kumarchi@attbi.com
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 13:04:19 +0000
To: cygwin@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: telnet - connection refused in windows xp home 

[snip]...

xp home does not list SYSTEM or even Adminstrator as a selectable user.
thanks , be patient please I am getting there!!
*********************************************************************

At 04:41 PM 12/7/2002, kumarchi@attbi.com wrote:
>I am unable to use remote connection to my pc(s) running windows xp home.
>After going through the inetutils documentation, and looking  at the
services 
>under windows xp, I can see that inetd is not running. I am also unable to 
>start the inetd. According to the documentation it must be because some 
>special permissions I need but which I cannot set in xp home.


Perhaps you can be more specific about this special permission and why you
can't set it.   



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Re: telnet - connection refused in windows xp home

[elfyn-cygwin]

Hi,

I think what you mean is that you do not have the means to set the local or
domain security policy and give the user you want to run inetd as the
*special* permissions required to RunAs service wise. This facility does
not exist in the Home edition of Windows XP, where you can grant security
policy permissions, but as I have heard it does support it in Professional.

As you cant change these permissions you'll just have to use the
LocalSystem (SYSTEM) account to run the inetd service. When using XP Home I
was able to get all of the cygwin daemons I use (ftpd,inetd,sshd) running
as well as they were on their Windows 2000 counterparts. The LocalSystem
account is the default user to run a service as on Windows NT4/5 and XP.

Elfyn
elfyn@exposure.org.uk

Original Message:
-----------------
From: Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) lhall@rfk.com
Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 23:06:03 -0500
To: kumarchi@attbi.com, cygwin@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: telnet - connection refused in windows xp home


At 04:41 PM 12/7/2002, kumarchi@attbi.com wrote:
>I am unable to use remote connection to my pc(s) running windows xp home.
>After going through the inetutils documentation, and looking  at the
services 
>under windows xp, I can see that inetd is not running. I am also unable to 
>start the inetd. According to the documentation it must be because some 
>special permissions I need but which I cannot set in xp home.


Perhaps you can be more specific about this special permission and why you
can't set it.   


Larry Hall                              lhall@rfk.com
RFK Partners, Inc.                      http://www.rfk.com
838 Washington Street                   (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office
Holliston, MA 01746                     (508) 893-9889 - FAX


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Re: telnet - connection refused in windows xp home

[Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)]

At 04:41 PM 12/7/2002, kumarchi@attbi.com wrote:
>I am unable to use remote connection to my pc(s) running windows xp home.
>After going through the inetutils documentation, and looking  at the services 
>under windows xp, I can see that inetd is not running. I am also unable to 
>start the inetd. According to the documentation it must be because some 
>special permissions I need but which I cannot set in xp home.


Perhaps you can be more specific about this special permission and why you
can't set it.   


Larry Hall                              lhall@rfk.com
RFK Partners, Inc.                      http://www.rfk.com
838 Washington Street                   (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office
Holliston, MA 01746                     (508) 893-9889 - FAX


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telnet - connection refused in windows xp home

[kumarchi]

I am unable to use remote connection to my pc(s) running windows xp home.
After going through the inetutils documentation, and looking  at the services 
under windows xp, I can see that inetd is not running. I am also unable to 
start the inetd. According to the documentation it must be because some 
special permissions I need but which I cannot set in xp home.

Is there any work around? 

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