setup.hint / ldesc

setup.hint / ldesc

[Sam Steingold]

RPM *.spec lets me include the summary from an external file:

%description
%(cat SUMMARY)

can I do something similar with setup.hint/ldesc?
I don't want to duplicate the same information twice.

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Re: setup.hint / ldesc

[Christopher Faylor]

On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 12:45:40PM -0400, Sam Steingold wrote:
>RPM *.spec lets me include the summary from an external file:
>
>%description
>%(cat SUMMARY)
>
>can I do something similar with setup.hint/ldesc?

No.

The description of the setup.ini/setup.hint "language" at
http://cygwin.com/setup.html is accurate.

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Re: setup.hint / ldesc

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, Sam Steingold wrote:

> RPM *.spec lets me include the summary from an external file:
>
> %description
> %(cat SUMMARY)
>
> can I do something similar with setup.hint/ldesc?
> I don't want to duplicate the same information twice.

No, you can't.  However, you can create a "setup.hint.in" with such syntax
and process it to create the actual "setup.hint" during your package build
process.  I'm assuming you'd like to package some application which
contains the description in a file that's changed relatively often.
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Re: setup.hint / ldesc

[Sam Steingold]

> * In message <20030905190243.GC4483@redhat.com>
> * On the subject of "Re: setup.hint / ldesc"
> * Sent on Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:02:43 -0400
> * Honorable Christopher Faylor <cgf-rcm@cygwin.com> writes:
>
> On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 12:45:40PM -0400, Sam Steingold wrote:
> >RPM *.spec lets me include the summary from an external file:
> >
> >%description
> >%(cat SUMMARY)
> >
> >can I do something similar with setup.hint/ldesc?
> 
> No.
> 
> The description of the setup.ini/setup.hint "language" at
> http://cygwin.com/setup.html is accurate.

any plans to add something like that?
E.g., is a field starts with $, pass it to the shell...

ldesc is not used at this time, so, I guess, I will just leave it blank :-)


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Re: setup.hint / ldesc

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, Sam Steingold wrote:

> > * In message <20030905190243.GC4483@redhat.com>
> > * On the subject of "Re: setup.hint / ldesc"
> > * Sent on Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:02:43 -0400
> > * Honorable Christopher Faylor writes:
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 12:45:40PM -0400, Sam Steingold wrote:
> > >RPM *.spec lets me include the summary from an external file:
> > >
> > >%description
> > >%(cat SUMMARY)
> > >
> > >can I do something similar with setup.hint/ldesc?
> >
> > No.
> >
> > The description of the setup.ini/setup.hint "language" at
> > http://cygwin.com/setup.html is accurate.
>
> any plans to add something like that?
> E.g., is a field starts with $, pass it to the shell...
>
> ldesc is not used at this time, so, I guess, I will just leave it blank :-)

Sam,

ldesc is not currently used, but will be used at some point by setup, with
no prior notice (or not much, anyway).  If you're willing to deprive your
users of seeing the long package description, that's your choice, but I'd
suggest setting the ldesc field (at least make it the same as sdesc).

AFAIK, there are no plans to use this syntax, mainly because setup.hint
files should be independent of any other files.  The suggestion in my
other message might make more sense for you.

This discussion *really* belongs on cygwin-apps.  As CGF mentioned, simply
subscribe to "cygwin-apps-allow" to be able to post without receiving any
messages.  FWIW, that's how I do it.  Please follow-up to cygwin-apps.
	Igor
P.S. Would it be too much to ask to please make your mailer not quote
e-mail addresses in replies?
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Re: setup.hint / ldesc

[Christopher Faylor]

On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 03:33:16PM -0400, Sam Steingold wrote:
>> * In message <20030905190243.GC4483@redhat.com>
>> * On the subject of "Re: setup.hint / ldesc"
>> * Sent on Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:02:43 -0400
>> * Honorable Christopher Faylor <cgf-rcm@cygwin.com> writes:
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 12:45:40PM -0400, Sam Steingold wrote:
>> >RPM *.spec lets me include the summary from an external file:
>> >
>> >%description
>> >%(cat SUMMARY)
>> >
>> >can I do something similar with setup.hint/ldesc?
>> 
>> No.
>> 
>> The description of the setup.ini/setup.hint "language" at
>> http://cygwin.com/setup.html is accurate.
>
>any plans to add something like that?
>E.g., is a field starts with $, pass it to the shell...

No, since it doesn't make any sense to do so.  setup.hint files live
on sources.redhat.com.  There is no need for include syntax there.

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Re: setup.hint / ldesc

[Robert Collins]

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On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 05:33, Sam Steingold wrote:

> > The description of the setup.ini/setup.hint "language" at
> > http://cygwin.com/setup.html is accurate.
> 
> any plans to add something like that?
> E.g., is a field starts with $, pass it to the shell...
> 
> ldesc is not used at this time, so, I guess, I will just leave it blank :-)

Whats so hard in just following the recipe provided?

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Re: setup.hint / ldesc

[Sam Steingold]

> * In message <1062797241.744.2.camel@localhost>
> * On the subject of "Re: setup.hint / ldesc"
> * Sent on Sat, 06 Sep 2003 07:27:21 +1000
> * Honorable Robert Collins <rbcollins@cygwin.com> writes:
>
> On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 05:33, Sam Steingold wrote:
> 
> > > The description of the setup.ini/setup.hint "language" at
> > > http://cygwin.com/setup.html is accurate.
> > 
> > any plans to add something like that?
> > E.g., is a field starts with $, pass it to the shell...
> > 
> > ldesc is not used at this time, so, I guess, I will just leave it blank :-)
> 
> Whats so hard in just following the recipe provided?

why should I maintain two identical texts in two separate files?

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RE: setup.hint / ldesc

[Hannu E K Nevalainen (garbage mail)]

> From: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf
> Of Sam Steingold

> > Whats so hard in just following the recipe provided?
> 
> why should I maintain two identical texts in two separate files?

$ ln --help

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Re: setup.hint / ldesc

[Sam Steingold]

> * In message <NGBBLLIAMFLGJEOAJCCEOELGDDAA.garbage_collector@telia.com>
> * On the subject of "RE: setup.hint / ldesc"
> * Sent on Sun, 7 Sep 2003 12:25:09 +0200
> * Honorable "Hannu E K Nevalainen \(garbage mail\)" <garbage_collector@telia.com> writes:
>
> > From: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf
> > Of Sam Steingold
> 
> > > Whats so hard in just following the recipe provided?
> > 
> > why should I maintain two identical texts in two separate files?
> 
> $ ln --help

vow! who could have thought about it?!
could you please enlighten me how can ln help me with two files one of
which contains the other and almost nothing else??

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Re: setup.hint / ldesc

[Christopher Faylor]

On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 01:40:47PM -0400, Sam Steingold wrote:
>> * In message <NGBBLLIAMFLGJEOAJCCEOELGDDAA.garbage_collector@telia.com>
>> * On the subject of "RE: setup.hint / ldesc"
>> * Sent on Sun, 7 Sep 2003 12:25:09 +0200
>> * Honorable "Hannu E K Nevalainen \(garbage mail\)" <garbage_collector@telia.com> writes:
>>
>> > From: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf
>> > Of Sam Steingold
>> 
>> > > Whats so hard in just following the recipe provided?
>> > 
>> > why should I maintain two identical texts in two separate files?
>> 
>> $ ln --help
>
>vow! who could have thought about it?!
>could you please enlighten me how can ln help me with two files one of
>which contains the other and almost nothing else??

How about if, instead, we stop talking about this?  Your requirements
for keeping setup.hint information in another file are really not very
interesting.  Just for some repeated clarification: the setup.hint files
live on sources.redhat.com along with the package tar.bz2 files.  We're
not going to make an exception and allow you to upload a separate
included file for your proposed release.  If you want to use setup.hint
files for something other than the cygwin release, then you can invent
your own syntax and do whatever you like with setup.exe (assuming that
you're using it), this being free software and all.

And, as long as things are being repeated, this:

http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2003-09/msg00396.html

is a perfectly workable plan.  I don't know why you haven't responded
to this suggestion or to this:

http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2003-09/msg00402.html

where you are being asked to stop quoting email addresses in your text.

But, please, there's no need for clarification on why you continue
to respond to those suggestions which you think won't work but are
silent on the suggestion that really should do what you want.  Lets
just stop this now.
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Re: setup.hint / ldesc

[Christopher Faylor]

On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 02:07:09PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote:
>where you are being asked to stop quoting email addresses in your text.

Oops.  I did the same thing in my reply.  Sorry about that.  I meant to
edit the email addresses away before responding.

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