Re: patch cygrunsrv for running native win32 applications

Re: patch cygrunsrv for running native win32 applications

[Antony Baxter]

>>Is there maybe some counter-effect that I don't
know?
>
>Nothing serious.  Every so often it will issue a 
>pop-up dialog that says.
>
>"Look, behind you!  It's a fiddler crab!"
>
>                 [OK]
>
>And, then when you look behind you there will be no
>fiddler crab.
>
>You still have to press the OK button, though. 
That's 
>pretty annoying. Someone should fix that.  I'm sure 
>that it would be pretty simple.
>
>cgf

When I tried that, there *was* a fiddler crab behind
me. Will that be fixed in 1.5.19?

ant.


	
	
		
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Re: patch cygrunsrv for running native win32 applications

[Christopher Faylor]

On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 04:49:00PM +0100, Antony Baxter wrote:
>>>Is there maybe some counter-effect that I don't know?
>>
>>Nothing serious.  Every so often it will issue a pop-up dialog that
>>says.
>>
>>"Look, behind you! It's a fiddler crab!"
>>
>>[OK]
>>
>>And, then when you look behind you there will be no fiddler crab.
>>
>>You still have to press the OK button, though.
>That's
>>pretty annoying.  Someone should fix that.  I'm sure that it would be
>>pretty simple.
>
>When I tried that, there *was* a fiddler crab behind me.  Will that be
>fixed in 1.5.19?

LOL.

I can't *believe* that you waited until this late date to report such a
serious problem!

cgf

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Re: patch cygrunsrv for running native win32 applications

[Henry S. Thompson]

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Christopher Faylor writes:

> LOL.

Propose a gold star for Antony Baxter - I believe he is the first
person on record as getting a laugh out of CGF!

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Re: patch cygrunsrv for running native win32 applications

[Gerrit P. Haase]

Henry S. Thompson wrote:

> Christopher Faylor writes:
>>LOL.

> Propose a gold star for Antony Baxter - I believe he is the first
> person on record as getting a laugh out of CGF!

I second this propose ;)


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Re: patch cygrunsrv for running native win32 applications

[Christopher Faylor]

On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 12:24:44PM +0100, Henry S. Thompson wrote:
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>Christopher Faylor writes:
>
>> LOL.
>
>Propose a gold star for Antony Baxter - I believe he is the first
>person on record as getting a laugh out of CGF!

http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2004-12/msg00009.html
http://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin/2004-04/msg00947.html
http://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin/2004-04/msg00947.html
http://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin-talk/2005-q1/msg00015.html
http://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin-talk/2005-q1/msg00015.html
.
.
.

And a few in personal email.  Dave Korn must be sick of seeing them, in
fact.

I hate to set the precedent of people voting for gold stars but since
I thought of this when I sent the LOL, I guess a gold star would be
appropriate, just for a nice comeback.

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Re: patch cygrunsrv for running native win32 applications

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On Fri, 14 Oct 2005, Christopher Faylor wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 12:24:44PM +0100, Henry S. Thompson wrote:
> >Christopher Faylor writes:
> >
> >> LOL.
> >
> >Propose a gold star for Antony Baxter - I believe he is the first
> >person on record as getting a laugh out of CGF!
>
> http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2004-12/msg00009.html
> http://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin/2004-04/msg00947.html
> http://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin/2004-04/msg00947.html
> http://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin-talk/2005-q1/msg00015.html
> http://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin-talk/2005-q1/msg00015.html

The last one must've made you laugh twice... :-)

> .
> .
> .
>
> And a few in personal email.  Dave Korn must be sick of seeing them, in
> fact.

And who could forget <http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#3PP>?

> I hate to set the precedent of people voting for gold stars but since
> I thought of this when I sent the LOL, I guess a gold star would be
> appropriate, just for a nice comeback.

Done.  But you haven't answered Anthony's question: *will* this be fixed
in 1.5.19?  Is it on its way of becoming the next B20? :-)
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Re: patch cygrunsrv for running native win32 applications

[Christopher Faylor]

On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 12:46:34PM -0400, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
>On Fri, 14 Oct 2005, Christopher Faylor wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 12:24:44PM +0100, Henry S. Thompson wrote:
>> >Christopher Faylor writes:
>> >
>> >> LOL.
>> >
>> >Propose a gold star for Antony Baxter - I believe he is the first
>> >person on record as getting a laugh out of CGF!
>>
>> http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2004-12/msg00009.html
>> http://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin/2004-04/msg00947.html
>> http://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin/2004-04/msg00947.html
>> http://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin-talk/2005-q1/msg00015.html
>> http://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin-talk/2005-q1/msg00015.html
>
>The last one must've made you laugh twice... :-)

It was a stupid cut/paste error from firefox, actually.  I'm having a #(*&
of a time getting that to work correctly.

>>I hate to set the precedent of people voting for gold stars but since I
>>thought of this when I sent the LOL, I guess a gold star would be
>>appropriate, just for a nice comeback.
>
>Done.  But you haven't answered Anthony's question: *will* this be
>fixed in 1.5.19?  Is it on its way of becoming the next B20?  :-)

Corinna and I were thinking that 1.5.20 could be the next B20, actually.

If I could just figure out Volker's hang problem, I'd release 1.5.19 and
then we'd be on the road to nirvana.

cgf

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Re: patch cygrunsrv for running native win32 applications

[Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes]

On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 12:24:44PM +0100, Henry S. Thompson wrote:
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> Christopher Faylor writes:
> 
> > LOL.
> 
> Propose a gold star for Antony Baxter - I believe he is the first
> person on record as getting a laugh out of CGF!

It's been known to happen from time to time:

On Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 10:05:58AM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 06:22:06AM -0700, Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes wrote:
> >I recently ran across this (not work safe) similar request:
> >http://www.scs.cs.nyu.edu/~dm/remove.pdf
>
> I very nearly died while reading that link.  I started laughing so hard that
> I aspirated some tea and then I had to cough for a minute.  That was very
> funny.

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Re: patch cygrunsrv for running native win32 applications

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On Thu, 13 Oct 2005, Antony Baxter wrote:

> >>Is there maybe some counter-effect that I don't know?
> >
> >Nothing serious.  Every so often it will issue a
> >pop-up dialog that says.
> >
> >"Look, behind you!  It's a fiddler crab!"
> >
> >                 [OK]
> >
> >And, then when you look behind you there will be no
> >fiddler crab.
> >
> >You still have to press the OK button, though.  That's
> >pretty annoying. Someone should fix that.  I'm sure
> >that it would be pretty simple.
> >
> >cgf
>
> When I tried that, there *was* a fiddler crab behind
> me. Will that be fixed in 1.5.19?

Please provide a simple, reproducible testcase.  Include details of your
system, as per <http://cygwin.com/problems.html>, as well as the
information about your environment (e.g., pets -- you don't happen to have
a pet fiddler crab, do you?).  Help us help you!
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Re: patch cygrunsrv for running native win32 applications

[Antony Baxter]

>Christopher Faylor writes:

>> LOL.

> Propose a gold star for Antony Baxter - I believe he
is 
> the first person on record as getting a laugh out of

> CGF!
>
> ht

Thank you, thank you, <bows/> you're too kind!

However, I think it would just be construed as a form 
of nepotism - for the record Henry used to be one of
my 
lecturers in Edinburgh, several years ago. 

Waddya mean you *don't remember*?

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patch cygrunsrv for running native win32 applications

[Gunnar Thielebein]

Hi,

Is it also possible to patch the cygrunsrv service installer for running
native win32.exe? Means like if you run a windows command/app in bash is
executed there must be also a way to do it in cygrunsrv.
I know there are extra utilities for windows like srvany but i like the
command line interface of cygrunsrv much more and want to know how much
efforts it would take for adding this feature

thx in advance, gun.







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Re: patch cygrunsrv for running native win32 applications

[Corinna Vinschen]

On Oct 12 23:23, Gunnar Thielebein wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Is it also possible to patch the cygrunsrv service installer for running
> native win32.exe? Means like if you run a windows command/app in bash is
> executed there must be also a way to do it in cygrunsrv.
> I know there are extra utilities for windows like srvany but i like the
> command line interface of cygrunsrv much more and want to know how much
> efforts it would take for adding this feature

cygrunsrv was specificially created to run Cygwin applications.  For
instance, it expects that the inferior application has an idea what a
POSIX signal is.  That said, it would be possible to allow native Windows
apps to run under cygrunsrv, but it doesn't really look worth the effort,
given that *useful* native Windows tools for manipulating services are
available, like the on-board tool "sc".

Otherwise, if you're still interested to change cygrunsrv:
http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#SHTDI
http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#PTC



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Re: patch cygrunsrv for running native win32 applications

[Danilo Turina]

Ooops...

I use cygrunsrv to run Mercury32 (that, in addition to be a Win32 
Applicatio, is not a console application) and it works.

Is there maybe some counter-effect that I don't know?

Ciao,

		Danilo

Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> On Oct 12 23:23, Gunnar Thielebein wrote:
> 
>>Hi,
>>
>>Is it also possible to patch the cygrunsrv service installer for running
>>native win32.exe? Means like if you run a windows command/app in bash is
>>executed there must be also a way to do it in cygrunsrv.
>>I know there are extra utilities for windows like srvany but i like the
>>command line interface of cygrunsrv much more and want to know how much
>>efforts it would take for adding this feature
> 
> 
> cygrunsrv was specificially created to run Cygwin applications.  For
> instance, it expects that the inferior application has an idea what a
> POSIX signal is.  That said, it would be possible to allow native Windows
> apps to run under cygrunsrv, but it doesn't really look worth the effort,
> given that *useful* native Windows tools for manipulating services are
> available, like the on-board tool "sc".
> 
> Otherwise, if you're still interested to change cygrunsrv:
> http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#SHTDI
> http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#PTC
> 
> 
> 
> Corinna
> 


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Re: patch cygrunsrv for running native win32 applications

[Christopher Faylor]

On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 04:10:09PM +0200, Danilo Turina wrote:
>Ooops...
>
>I use cygrunsrv to run Mercury32 (that, in addition to be a Win32 
>Applicatio, is not a console application) and it works.
>
>Is there maybe some counter-effect that I don't know?

Nothing serious.  Every so often it will issue a pop-up dialog that
says.

"Look, behind you!  It's a fiddler crab!"

                 [OK]

And, then when you look behind you there will be no fiddler crab.

You still have to press the OK button, though.  That's pretty annoying.
Someone should fix that.  I'm sure that it would be pretty simple.

cgf

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Re: patch cygrunsrv for running native win32 applications

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On Thu, 13 Oct 2005, Danilo Turina wrote:

> Ooops...
>
> I use cygrunsrv to run Mercury32 (that, in addition to be a Win32
> Applicatio, is not a console application) and it works.
>
> Is there maybe some counter-effect that I don't know?

cygrunsrv should have no problems spawning a Windows app.  Logging and
termination are another story -- cygrunsrv will use POSIX signals.

IIRC, there is a cygwin stub for each spawned Windows task.  I don't
remember if this stub translates some POSIX signals to known Windows
signals -- if it does, you can specify those for cygrunsrv to use in
terminating the process.

If you don't care whether the process gets properly terminated on, say,
system shutdown or service stop, and if the process doesn't write anything
to stdout/stderr, I don't think there are other caveats here.

Corinna?
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