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@ 2008-05-15  9:35 andre
  2008-05-15  9:41 ` Corinna Vinschen
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From: andre @ 2008-05-15  9:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

About mail-archives directory and mbox contents on ftp servers.

This directory has disappeared from ftp mirror sites since end of 2007.
I check that on many mirror sites - but not on all. I think I am true.

Containing mbox formatted about principal mailing list,
  could we found them elsewhere ?
Thanks

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* Re: mail-archives disappear on ftp mirror sites
  2008-05-15  9:35 mail-archives disappear on ftp mirror sites andre
@ 2008-05-15  9:41 ` Corinna Vinschen
  2008-05-15 17:06   ` Christopher Faylor
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From: Corinna Vinschen @ 2008-05-15  9:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

On May 15 11:23, andre wrote:
> About mail-archives directory and mbox contents on ftp servers.
>
> This directory has disappeared from ftp mirror sites since end of 2007.
> I check that on many mirror sites - but not on all. I think I am true.
>
> Containing mbox formatted about principal mailing list,
>  could we found them elsewhere ?

You should ask the system maintainers on the overseers AT sourceware
DOT org list.


Corinna

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* Re: mail-archives disappear on ftp mirror sites
  2008-05-15  9:41 ` Corinna Vinschen
@ 2008-05-15 17:06   ` Christopher Faylor
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From: Christopher Faylor @ 2008-05-15 17:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 11:35:22AM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
>On May 15 11:23, andre wrote:
>> About mail-archives directory and mbox contents on ftp servers.
>>
>> This directory has disappeared from ftp mirror sites since end of 2007.
>> I check that on many mirror sites - but not on all. I think I am true.
>>
>> Containing mbox formatted about principal mailing list,
>>  could we found them elsewhere ?
>
>You should ask the system maintainers on the overseers AT sourceware
>DOT org list.

Good advice but the answer will be "no".

cgf

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* Re: mail-archives disappear on ftp mirror sites
  2008-05-18  1:35 ` Brian Dessent
@ 2008-05-18 13:13   ` Christopher Faylor
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From: Christopher Faylor @ 2008-05-18 13:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 05:29:52PM -0700, Brian Dessent wrote:
>Sven Severus wrote:
>>This is very regrettable.  I miss these mail-archive files pretty much,
>>because they were an excelent source of knowledge about cygwin and
>>help.  With these files and the grep utility I have almost always found
>>solutions for my problems or at least useful references...  I think
>>many cygwin users would agree with this.
>
>You don't need the raw archives for that.  Google "site:cygwin.com
>inurl:ml inurl:cygwin search-term-here" works wonderfully and doesn't
>require downloading many megabytes of junk.  You can even add
>"inurl:2007" to limit by year.  Also, there's the mhonarc search tool
>on the site, as well as gmane and nabble.  Gmane even has a download
>function for retrieving archives if you really must have them.  You're
>making this out as a problem that simply does not exist.

True.  There is also the fact that the archives were being downloaded by
spammers and that they took up an ever-increasing amount of disk space.
Since they basically just duplicate information that is easily
retrievable elsewhere, there really didn't seem to be any reason to keep
them around.

And, since it took the OP many months to notice that they were no longer
available, it seems like there really can't be that big a demand for
them.

cgf

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* Re: mail-archives disappear on ftp mirror sites
  2008-05-18  0:30 Sven Severus
@ 2008-05-18  1:35 ` Brian Dessent
  2008-05-18 13:13   ` Christopher Faylor
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From: Brian Dessent @ 2008-05-18  1:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Sven Severus; +Cc: cygwin

Sven Severus wrote:

> This is very regrettable.
> I miss these mail-archive files pretty much, because
> they were an excelent source of knowledge about cygwin
> and help. With these files and the grep utility I have
> almost always found solutions for my problems or at
> least useful references...
> I think many cygwin users would agree with this.

You don't need the raw archives for that.  Google "site:cygwin.com
inurl:ml inurl:cygwin search-term-here" works wonderfully and doesn't
require downloading many megabytes of junk.  You can even add
"inurl:2007" to limit by year.  Also, there's the mhonarc search tool on
the site, as well as gmane and nabble.  Gmane even has a download
function for retrieving archives if you really must have them.  You're
making this out as a problem that simply does not exist.

Brian

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* Re: mail-archives disappear on ftp mirror sites
@ 2008-05-18  0:30 Sven Severus
  2008-05-18  1:35 ` Brian Dessent
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From: Sven Severus @ 2008-05-18  0:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 12:27:28AM, Christopher Faylor wrote:
>On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 11:35:22AM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
>>On May 15 11:23, andre wrote:
>>> About mail-archives directory and mbox contents on ftp servers.
>>>
>>> This directory has disappeared from ftp mirror sites since end of
2007.
>>> I check that on many mirror sites - but not on all. I think I am
true.
>>>
>>> Containing mbox formatted about principal mailing list,
>>>  could we found them elsewhere ?
>>
>>You should ask the system maintainers on the overseers AT sourceware
>>DOT org list.
>
>Good advice but the answer will be "no".
>
>cgf

This is very regrettable. 
I miss these mail-archive files pretty much, because 
they were an excelent source of knowledge about cygwin 
and help. With these files and the grep utility I have 
almost always found solutions for my problems or at 
least useful references...
I think many cygwin users would agree with this.

No one to have a heart ;-> to keep on maintaining these 
valuable mail-archive files?

Sven


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