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From: Corinna Vinschen <corinna-cygwin@cygwin.com>
To: cygwin@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: CSIH patch (Re: Unable to run sshd under a domain sshd_server 	account [SOLVED])
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 17:43:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080807164241.GK3806@calimero.vinschen.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <489B20AC.9080902@cwilson.fastmail.fm>

On Aug  7 12:19, Charles Wilson wrote:
> Corinna Vinschen wrote:
>> Well, hmm.  In theory, admins have backup/restore rights anyway.
>> However, I was just thinking that csih should get rid of points of
>> failure which are not entirely necessary, like the checks for denied
>> user rights.  If you think the test is necessary, just stick to it.
>
> Well, part of the purpose of the foo-config scripts is to diagnose -- if 
> the foo-config script succeeds without error, then one would expect that 
> the installed service will, in fact, operate correctly.  It's much worse to 
> have a user run ssh-host-config which /apparently/ succeeds, only to have 
> the service fail to start or operate correctly.
>
> So, I think /some/ version of this test should remain. However, if the 
> Administrators GROUP is not present in the /etc/passwd file -- that's not a 
> failure, so long as the Administrator and/or SYSTEM have the desired access 
> to the file (as well as the file's owner).
>
> So, I can see csih_get_system_and_admins_ids() reporting success if it 
> finds these three: ADMIN-GID, SYSTEM-GID, and SYSTEM-UID, and treating 
> ADMIN-UID (e.g. -544 in /etc/passwd) as a non-failure if missing.
>
> Then, csih_check_access (and all other users of ADMIN-UID) would 
> special-case against empty.
>
> We can require Administrators (-544) in /etc/group, and SYSTEM (-18) in 
> both /etc/group and /etc/passwd, right?

Yes.  I'm just wondering if we shouldn't check for the Admins group
only.  The token of the SYSTEM user always contains the Admins group and
the cyg_server (or whatever the name is) user is always (and should
always) be created as member of the admins group, too.  So, if I didn't
miss anything important, the check could be reduced to checking for the
admins group permissions.  Does that make sense?


Corinna

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-07 16:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-12 21:32 Unable to run sshd under a domain sshd_server account [SOLVED] Schutter, Thomas A.
2008-05-12 22:32 ` Igor Peshansky
2008-05-12 23:20   ` Schutter, Thomas A.
2008-05-12 23:24     ` Igor Peshansky
2008-05-13  3:32       ` Igor Peshansky
2008-05-13 16:09       ` Schutter, Thomas A.
2008-05-13 16:10         ` Larry Hall (Cygwin)
2008-05-13 16:29           ` Schutter, Thomas A.
2008-05-13 16:38             ` Larry Hall (Cygwin)
2008-05-13 16:49               ` Schutter, Thomas A.
2008-05-13 17:35                 ` Larry Hall (Cygwin)
2008-05-13 17:59                   ` Schutter, Thomas A.
2008-05-13  6:45     ` Christopher Faylor
2008-05-13  7:59   ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-05-13 16:22     ` Schutter, Thomas A.
2008-05-13 16:42       ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-05-13 16:57         ` Schutter, Thomas A.
2008-05-13 17:07           ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-05-13 17:24             ` Schutter, Thomas A.
2008-05-14 11:48               ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-06-16 21:03       ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-06-16 21:27         ` CSIH patch (Re: Unable to run sshd under a domain sshd_server account [SOLVED]) Corinna Vinschen
2008-06-22 23:57           ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-07-19 16:52           ` Charles Wilson
2008-07-19 17:10             ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-07-19 20:47               ` Charles Wilson
2008-07-19 21:00                 ` Charles Wilson
2008-07-20 12:26                 ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-07-20 13:38                   ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-08-05  1:32                     ` Charles Wilson
2008-08-07  8:13                       ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-08-07 15:38                         ` Charles Wilson
2008-08-07 16:24                           ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-08-07 16:42                             ` Charles Wilson
2008-08-07 17:43                               ` Corinna Vinschen [this message]
2008-08-07 17:53                                 ` Charles Wilson
2008-08-08  2:20                                   ` csih-0.1.6 available for testing [Was: Re: CSIH patch (Re: Unable to run sshd ...)] Charles Wilson
2008-08-15 19:39                                     ` Charles Wilson
2008-08-15 19:59                                       ` Yaakov (Cygwin Ports)
2008-08-18 11:24                                       ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-08-18 12:36                                         ` Charles Wilson
2008-08-18 12:53                                           ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-08-18 13:14                                             ` Charles Wilson
2008-08-18 13:16                                               ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-08-18 18:04                                                 ` Charles Wilson
2008-08-18 13:33                                           ` Christopher Faylor
2008-08-18 14:12                                             ` Corinna Vinschen
2008-08-18 14:33                                               ` Christopher Faylor
2008-08-08  9:20                                   ` CSIH patch (Re: Unable to run sshd under a domain sshd_server account [SOLVED]) Corinna Vinschen

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