* Mg3a - a version of Mg2a developed on Cygwin @ 2011-02-23 8:57 Bengt Larsson 2011-02-23 9:11 ` Bengt Larsson 2011-02-23 18:25 ` Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) [E] 0 siblings, 2 replies; 28+ messages in thread From: Bengt Larsson @ 2011-02-23 8:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin As I mentioned in an earlier message I have been developing UTF-8 support for an editor, Mg2a. I chose to call it Mg3a. You can fetch it here: http://www.bengtl.net/files/mg3a/ Or directly here: http://www.bengtl.net/files/mg3a/mg3a.110223.tar.gz Just extract and compile. You can use it with only what's in the README, but README.reference lists the relevant functions. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Re: Mg3a - a version of Mg2a developed on Cygwin 2011-02-23 8:57 Mg3a - a version of Mg2a developed on Cygwin Bengt Larsson @ 2011-02-23 9:11 ` Bengt Larsson 2011-02-23 9:29 ` Corinna Vinschen 2011-02-23 18:25 ` Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) [E] 1 sibling, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread From: Bengt Larsson @ 2011-02-23 9:11 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin Bengt Larsson wrote: >As I mentioned in an earlier message I have been developing UTF-8 >support for an editor, Mg2a. I chose to call it Mg3a. The README: ------------ This is Mg, formerly Mg2a, formerly MicroGnuEmacs. It was extended by Bengt Larsson to deal with CRLF/LF and UTF-8, plus some other small extensions. The original README and documents are in orig/. The extensions as well as the original, with some exceptions mentioned in the original README, are in the public domain. Enjoy your GNU Emacs-like editor. If you are on Cygwin, Mg defaults to CRLF line endings. You may want to set them to LF by putting this in a file .mg in your home directory: (set-default-mode "lf") If you have files in an old 8-bit character set, and if you are in a UTF-8 locale, you may want to add a command to set the default 8bit character set. Default is CP1252. For example: (set-default-8bit-charset "cp1250") "list-charsets" lists the available charsets. Commands are documented in README.reference. README.programmer and README.misc include some extra info. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Re: Mg3a - a version of Mg2a developed on Cygwin 2011-02-23 9:11 ` Bengt Larsson @ 2011-02-23 9:29 ` Corinna Vinschen 2011-02-23 9:33 ` Bengt Larsson 0 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread From: Corinna Vinschen @ 2011-02-23 9:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin On Feb 23 10:11, Bengt Larsson wrote: > Bengt Larsson wrote: > >As I mentioned in an earlier message I have been developing UTF-8 > >support for an editor, Mg2a. I chose to call it Mg3a. > > The README: > ------------ > This is Mg, formerly Mg2a, formerly MicroGnuEmacs. It was extended by > Bengt Larsson to deal with CRLF/LF and UTF-8, plus some other small > extensions. The original README and documents are in orig/. The > extensions as well as the original, with some exceptions mentioned in > the original README, are in the public domain. > > Enjoy your GNU Emacs-like editor. > > If you are on Cygwin, Mg defaults to CRLF line endings. You may want > to set them to LF by putting this in a file .mg in your home > directory: > > (set-default-mode "lf") I'm not an Emacs user, but IMO LF should be the default on Cygwin. It's also the default in vim. After all, Cygwin is a UNIX-like environment in the first place. And textmode is usually handled transparently by the underlying mount point, unless you open the file explicitely in binary mode. Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Project Co-Leader cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Red Hat -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Re: Mg3a - a version of Mg2a developed on Cygwin 2011-02-23 9:29 ` Corinna Vinschen @ 2011-02-23 9:33 ` Bengt Larsson 0 siblings, 0 replies; 28+ messages in thread From: Bengt Larsson @ 2011-02-23 9:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin Corinna Vinschen wrote: >On Feb 23 10:11, Bengt Larsson wrote: >> If you are on Cygwin, Mg defaults to CRLF line endings. You may want >> to set them to LF by putting this in a file .mg in your home >> directory: >> >> (set-default-mode "lf") > >I'm not an Emacs user, but IMO LF should be the default on Cygwin. >It's also the default in vim. After all, Cygwin is a UNIX-like >environment in the first place. And textmode is usually handled >transparently by the underlying mount point, unless you open the >file explicitely in binary mode. Well, maybe. I'll think about it. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* RE: Mg3a - a version of Mg2a developed on Cygwin 2011-02-23 8:57 Mg3a - a version of Mg2a developed on Cygwin Bengt Larsson 2011-02-23 9:11 ` Bengt Larsson @ 2011-02-23 18:25 ` Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) [E] 2011-02-23 18:53 ` Andrew Schulman 1 sibling, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread From: Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) [E] @ 2011-02-23 18:25 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin Bengt Larsson sent the following at Wednesday, February 23, 2011 3:58 AM > >As I mentioned in an earlier message I have been developing UTF-8 >support for an editor, Mg2a. I chose to call it Mg3a. > >You can fetch it here: http://www.bengtl.net/files/mg3a/ > >Or directly here: http://www.bengtl.net/files/mg3a/mg3a.110223.tar.gz Why not ITP it as an official package? {Not that I care. Nothing against emacs, but vim is enough for me. :-) } - Barry Disclaimer: Statements made herein are not made on behalf of NIAID. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Re: Mg3a - a version of Mg2a developed on Cygwin 2011-02-23 18:25 ` Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) [E] @ 2011-02-23 18:53 ` Andrew Schulman 2011-02-23 19:36 ` Bengt Larsson 0 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread From: Andrew Schulman @ 2011-02-23 18:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin > Bengt Larsson sent the following at Wednesday, February 23, 2011 3:58 AM > > > >As I mentioned in an earlier message I have been developing UTF-8 > >support for an editor, Mg2a. I chose to call it Mg3a. > > > >You can fetch it here: http://www.bengtl.net/files/mg3a/ > > > >Or directly here: http://www.bengtl.net/files/mg3a/mg3a.110223.tar.gz > > Why not ITP it as an official package? It will need a license. Right now there's no license information anywhere in the tarball AFAICT. Is the code in Mg3a taken from Emacs? If so, you need to include the GPL in your tarball. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Re: Mg3a - a version of Mg2a developed on Cygwin 2011-02-23 18:53 ` Andrew Schulman @ 2011-02-23 19:36 ` Bengt Larsson 2011-02-24 8:56 ` Corinna Vinschen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread From: Bengt Larsson @ 2011-02-23 19:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin Andrew Schulman wrote: >> Why not ITP it as an official package? > >It will need a license. Right now there's no license information anywhere >in the tarball AFAICT. > >Is the code in Mg3a taken from Emacs? If so, you need to include the GPL >in your tarball. No, it was taken from Mg2a, which was public domain. See the README in the orig/ directory. The orig directory is referred to in the README in the source directory. README: "The original README and documents are in orig/. The extensions as well as the original, with some exceptions mentioned in the original README, are in the public domain. " orig/README: "Mg 2a README May 15, 1988 Mg (mg) is a Public Domain EMACS style editor." This is perhaps not perfect disclosure, but it is there. (I did miss wcwidth.c, but it says: " * Markus Kuhn -- 2007-05-26 (Unicode 5.0) * * Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software * for any purpose and without fee is hereby granted. The author * disclaims all warranties with regard to this software. " So I think I'm in the clear. Since the original was public domain I haven't wanted to think about doing it differently with my code; it makes my head hurt. I do know what public domain means, and should someone go ahead and make insane amount of money on this I will be a) insanely proud, b) take it as a learning experience and c) be sure to extract a lot of money next time. I think public domain is interesting because anyone can do anything. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Re: Mg3a - a version of Mg2a developed on Cygwin 2011-02-23 19:36 ` Bengt Larsson @ 2011-02-24 8:56 ` Corinna Vinschen 2011-02-24 10:56 ` Bengt Larsson 2011-02-25 8:05 ` wcwidth and terminals [Re: Mg3a - a version of Mg2a developed on Cygwin] Thomas Wolff 0 siblings, 2 replies; 28+ messages in thread From: Corinna Vinschen @ 2011-02-24 8:56 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin On Feb 23 20:36, Bengt Larsson wrote: > Andrew Schulman wrote: > >> Why not ITP it as an official package? > > > >It will need a license. Right now there's no license information anywhere > >in the tarball AFAICT. > > > >Is the code in Mg3a taken from Emacs? If so, you need to include the GPL > >in your tarball. > > No, it was taken from Mg2a, which was public domain. See the README in > the orig/ directory. The orig directory is referred to in the README in > the source directory. > > README: > "The original README and documents are in orig/. The > extensions as well as the original, with some exceptions mentioned in > the original README, are in the public domain. " > > orig/README: > "Mg 2a README May 15, 1988 > > Mg (mg) is a Public Domain EMACS style editor." > > This is perhaps not perfect disclosure, but it is there. (I did miss > wcwidth.c, but it says: > > " * Markus Kuhn -- 2007-05-26 (Unicode 5.0) > * > * Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software > * for any purpose and without fee is hereby granted. The author > * disclaims all warranties with regard to this software. > " Just a hint: When on Cygwin, you might better use Cygwin's(*) wcwidth function. It's based on the same code from Markus Kuhn, but it interacts with the setlocale function to make sure that the width returned for the CJK ambiguous width characters makes sense in the given locale. Plus, it supports a Cygwin-specific locale modifier '@cjknarrow' which allows the user to modify this behaviour. When using your own wcwidth, you're giving up on this feature. Better yet, convert wide chars to wide strings and use the wcswidth function. In contrast to wcwidth, it can also handle surrogate pairs. Corinna (*) Actually newlib's wcwidth. -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Project Co-Leader cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Red Hat -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Re: Mg3a - a version of Mg2a developed on Cygwin 2011-02-24 8:56 ` Corinna Vinschen @ 2011-02-24 10:56 ` Bengt Larsson 2011-02-24 11:15 ` Corinna Vinschen 2011-02-24 11:19 ` Bengt Larsson 2011-02-25 8:05 ` wcwidth and terminals [Re: Mg3a - a version of Mg2a developed on Cygwin] Thomas Wolff 1 sibling, 2 replies; 28+ messages in thread From: Bengt Larsson @ 2011-02-24 10:56 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin Corinna Vinschen wrote: >Just a hint: > >When on Cygwin, you might better use Cygwin's(*) wcwidth function. It's >based on the same code from Markus Kuhn, but it interacts with the >setlocale function to make sure that the width returned for the CJK >ambiguous width characters makes sense in the given locale. Plus, it >supports a Cygwin-specific locale modifier '@cjknarrow' which allows the >user to modify this behaviour. When using your own wcwidth, you're >giving up on this feature. > >Better yet, convert wide chars to wide strings and use the wcswidth >function. In contrast to wcwidth, it can also handle surrogate pairs. I don't use surrogates. I only use UTF-8 and UTF-32. But using cygwin's wcwidth may be worth thinking about. I suppose it will be consistent with mintty that way; otherwise not? Using wcswidth isn't very useful in the editor because it has special requirements, like showing control characters with ^C. That's one of the reasons I mostly wrote my own, all the special requirements. I always iterate of bytes, which are converted in a mode-dependent way to ints (UTF-32). Do you have a case-insensitive compare? Because I limited that to ASCII. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Re: Mg3a - a version of Mg2a developed on Cygwin 2011-02-24 10:56 ` Bengt Larsson @ 2011-02-24 11:15 ` Corinna Vinschen 2011-02-24 11:40 ` Bengt Larsson 2011-02-24 12:16 ` Andy Koppe 2011-02-24 11:19 ` Bengt Larsson 1 sibling, 2 replies; 28+ messages in thread From: Corinna Vinschen @ 2011-02-24 11:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin On Feb 24 11:56, Bengt Larsson wrote: > Corinna Vinschen wrote: > >Just a hint: > > > >When on Cygwin, you might better use Cygwin's(*) wcwidth function. It's > >based on the same code from Markus Kuhn, but it interacts with the > >setlocale function to make sure that the width returned for the CJK > >ambiguous width characters makes sense in the given locale. Plus, it > >supports a Cygwin-specific locale modifier '@cjknarrow' which allows the > >user to modify this behaviour. When using your own wcwidth, you're > >giving up on this feature. > > > >Better yet, convert wide chars to wide strings and use the wcswidth > >function. In contrast to wcwidth, it can also handle surrogate pairs. > > I don't use surrogates. I only use UTF-8 and UTF-32. But using cygwin's > wcwidth may be worth thinking about. I suppose it will be consistent > with mintty that way; otherwise not? Yes, I think Andy uses the system functions as well. As for the wide char representation, wchar_t is UTF-16 on Cygwin, as on the underlying Windows, and surrogate pairs are always possible. You can't use any libc wide char function if you assume UTF-32. > Using wcswidth isn't very useful in the editor because it has special > requirements, like showing control characters with ^C. Well, it's not really such a big problem to special case wide char control values and just call wcswidth otherwise... > That's one of the > reasons I mostly wrote my own, all the special requirements. I always > iterate of bytes, which are converted in a mode-dependent way to ints > (UTF-32). Do you have a case-insensitive compare? Because I limited that > to ASCII. wcscasecmp and wcsncasecmp are both available. But obviously they use UTF-16, since wchar_t is UTF-16. Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Project Co-Leader cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Red Hat -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Re: Mg3a - a version of Mg2a developed on Cygwin 2011-02-24 11:15 ` Corinna Vinschen @ 2011-02-24 11:40 ` Bengt Larsson 2011-02-24 11:55 ` Corinna Vinschen 2011-02-24 12:16 ` Andy Koppe 1 sibling, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread From: Bengt Larsson @ 2011-02-24 11:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin Corinna Vinschen wrote: >> Using wcswidth isn't very useful in the editor because it has special >> requirements, like showing control characters with ^C. > >Well, it's not really such a big problem to special case wide char >control values and just call wcswidth otherwise... Oh I see. wcwidth takes a wchar_t. Handily, Kuhn's implementation takes an UCS character. Now I understand what you mean by wcswidth. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Re: Mg3a - a version of Mg2a developed on Cygwin 2011-02-24 11:40 ` Bengt Larsson @ 2011-02-24 11:55 ` Corinna Vinschen 0 siblings, 0 replies; 28+ messages in thread From: Corinna Vinschen @ 2011-02-24 11:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin On Feb 24 12:40, Bengt Larsson wrote: > Corinna Vinschen wrote: > >> Using wcswidth isn't very useful in the editor because it has special > >> requirements, like showing control characters with ^C. > > > >Well, it's not really such a big problem to special case wide char > >control values and just call wcswidth otherwise... > > Oh I see. wcwidth takes a wchar_t. Handily, Kuhn's implementation takes > an UCS character. Now I understand what you mean by wcswidth. Yeah, newlibs wcswidth combines UTF-16 surrogates into UCS-32 chars and calls the internal __wcwidth function, which is basically Kuhn's code, and which takes a wint_t as parameter. Since wint_t is 32 bit... Of course, this trick doesn't work for wcwidth, which will blindly call __wcwidth with every incoming surrogate half. Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Project Co-Leader cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Red Hat -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Re: Mg3a - a version of Mg2a developed on Cygwin 2011-02-24 11:15 ` Corinna Vinschen 2011-02-24 11:40 ` Bengt Larsson @ 2011-02-24 12:16 ` Andy Koppe 2011-02-24 18:51 ` Bengt Larsson 1 sibling, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread From: Andy Koppe @ 2011-02-24 12:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin On 24 February 2011 11:14, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > On Feb 24 11:56, Bengt Larsson wrote: >> I don't use surrogates. I only use UTF-8 and UTF-32. ... which of course means that you don't support anything but UTF-8 and ASCII locales. Can't argue with that, but you might want to use nl_langinfo(CODESET) to check and warn if something else is used. >> But using cygwin's >> wcwidth may be worth thinking about. I suppose it will be consistent >> with mintty that way; otherwise not? > > Yes, I think Andy uses the system functions as well. Yep, as should any other terminal emulator. Andy -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Re: Mg3a - a version of Mg2a developed on Cygwin 2011-02-24 12:16 ` Andy Koppe @ 2011-02-24 18:51 ` Bengt Larsson 2011-02-25 2:24 ` Cyrille Lefevre 0 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread From: Bengt Larsson @ 2011-02-24 18:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin Andy Koppe wrote: >On 24 February 2011 11:14, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >> On Feb 24 11:56, Bengt Larsson wrote: >>> I don't use surrogates. I only use UTF-8 and UTF-32. > >... which of course means that you don't support anything but UTF-8 >and ASCII locales. Can't argue with that, but you might want to use >nl_langinfo(CODESET) to check and warn if something else is used. Utf-8 and a number of 8-bit charsets, actually. I'm getting rather annoyed that people judge the program without looking at it. And it does use nl_langinfo(CODESET). >>> But using cygwin's >>> wcwidth may be worth thinking about. I suppose it will be consistent >>> with mintty that way; otherwise not? >> >> Yes, I think Andy uses the system functions as well. > >Yep, as should any other terminal emulator. I have fixed it to use Cygwin's wcswidth. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Re: Mg3a - a version of Mg2a developed on Cygwin 2011-02-24 18:51 ` Bengt Larsson @ 2011-02-25 2:24 ` Cyrille Lefevre 2011-02-25 2:25 ` Cyrille Lefevre 2011-02-25 6:47 ` Bengt Larsson 0 siblings, 2 replies; 28+ messages in thread From: Cyrille Lefevre @ 2011-02-25 2:24 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin Le 24/02/2011 19:50, Bengt Larsson a écrit : > Utf-8 and a number of 8-bit charsets, actually. I'm getting rather > annoyed that people judge the program without looking at it. And it does > use nl_langinfo(CODESET). make install should copy mg to /bin instead of /docs/Command, copy documentation files in /usr/share/doc/mg3a and samples (dot files) in /us/share/doc/mg3a/examples v2$ echo $LANG en_US.UTF-8 v2$ mg M-x emacs-version Mg 2a (formerly MicroGnuEmacs) s/2/3/ no ? v2$ mg ^H a RET apropos: Segmentation fault uh! sigh, no ^X d (aka dired mode) by default ! well, I've tried w/o NO_DIRED and d_makename() needs to be rewritten a lot to handle dynamic comlumns sizing of gnu ls :-( to compile w/o NO_DIRED, in function fbackupfile in file fileio.c, replace : char *malloc(); by #define rename renamefile ^Z doesn't suspend ! ^X ^F doesn't complete :-( no M-T (transpose-words) M-x something say [Ambiguous] w/o listing possible solutions about defines : -DNO_BACKUP may be replaced by -DMAKEBACKUP=0, so, it is disabled by default and may be enable using (make-backup-files) if needed. as suggested, -DLF_DEFAULT should be defined -DNOTAB seems to work fine but no-tab-mode and nobom must be switched in keymap.c -DPREFIXREGION seems to work fine -DREGEX seems to work fine -DSCROLLBYONE seems to work fine Regards, Cyrille Lefevre -- mailto:Cyrille.Lefevre-lists@laposte.net -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Re: Mg3a - a version of Mg2a developed on Cygwin 2011-02-25 2:24 ` Cyrille Lefevre @ 2011-02-25 2:25 ` Cyrille Lefevre 2011-02-25 6:48 ` Bengt Larsson 2011-02-25 6:47 ` Bengt Larsson 1 sibling, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread From: Cyrille Lefevre @ 2011-02-25 2:25 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin forgot about make install : install: strip installbin installdoc PREFIX=/usr #PREFIX=/usr/local BINDIR=${PREFIX}/bin DOCDIR=${PREFIX}/share/doc/mg3a DOCFILES=README README.misc README.programmer README.reference \ orig/mgprog.doc orig/README orig/tutorial SAMPDIR=${DOCDIR}/examples SAMFILES=.mg .mg-cygwin .mg-xterm installbin: cp mg.exe /usr/local/bin installdoc: mkdir -p ${DOCDIR}/orig ${SAMPDIR} for file in ${SAMFILES}; do cp bl/$${file} ${SAMPDIR}/dot$${file}; done for file in ${DOCFILES}; do cp $${file} ${DOCDIR}/$${file}; done Regards, Cyrille Lefevre -- mailto:Cyrille.Lefevre-lists@laposte.net -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Re: Mg3a - a version of Mg2a developed on Cygwin 2011-02-25 2:25 ` Cyrille Lefevre @ 2011-02-25 6:48 ` Bengt Larsson 0 siblings, 0 replies; 28+ messages in thread From: Bengt Larsson @ 2011-02-25 6:48 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin Cyrille Lefevre wrote: > >forgot about make install : Again Super-helpful. Thanks. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Re: Mg3a - a version of Mg2a developed on Cygwin 2011-02-25 2:24 ` Cyrille Lefevre 2011-02-25 2:25 ` Cyrille Lefevre @ 2011-02-25 6:47 ` Bengt Larsson 2011-02-25 6:55 ` Kenneth Wolcott 1 sibling, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread From: Bengt Larsson @ 2011-02-25 6:47 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin Cyrille Lefevre wrote: Thanks for your informed criticism. But I haven't suggested it should be delivered with Cygwin. >make install should copy mg to /bin instead of /docs/Command, Yup >copy >documentation files in /usr/share/doc/mg3a and samples (dot files) >in /us/share/doc/mg3a/examples Yes. Thanks. > >v2$ echo $LANG >en_US.UTF-8 > >v2$ mg >M-x emacs-version >Mg 2a (formerly MicroGnuEmacs) Ah. Thanks. > >s/2/3/ no ? > >v2$ mg >^H a RET >apropos: Segmentation fault >uh! Old bug. Menitioned in the old documentation. Incredibly hairy code. > >sigh, no ^X d (aka dired mode) by default ! True. I never use it. I kind of philosophically disagree with it. >well, I've tried w/o NO_DIRED and d_makename() needs to be rewritten >a lot to handle dynamic comlumns sizing of gnu ls :-( It was good that it worked at all :-) There is also a NO_BACKUP #define. I don't guarantee what happens if you remove it. >to compile w/o NO_DIRED, in function fbackupfile in file fileio.c, replace : >char *malloc(); >by >#define rename renamefile Helpful. Thanks. > >^Z doesn't suspend ! I know. The very old code did this for a BSD system. But I have never figured out how to do this portably on a more modern system. Mentioned in the documentation. > >^X ^F doesn't complete :-( That would be a nice feature. > >no M-T (transpose-words) Hmm. Could be added I guess. > >M-x something say [Ambiguous] w/o listing possible solutions OK. It never did, actually. Of course we don't have to do everything Emacs did. > >about defines : >-DNO_BACKUP may be replaced by -DMAKEBACKUP=0, so, it is disabled by >default and may be enable using (make-backup-files) if needed. >as suggested, -DLF_DEFAULT should be defined If it were distributed with Cygwin I would certainly define LF_DEFAULT. I wouldn't do it all on my own, but certainly if it's a condition. >-DNOTAB seems to work fine but no-tab-mode and nobom must be switched in >keymap.c OH! Thanks. Fixed. >-DPREFIXREGION seems to work fine >-DREGEX seems to work fine I haven't touched those. >-DSCROLLBYONE seems to work fine OK. That was more thorough than I asked for ;-) But very helpful. Thanks. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Re: Mg3a - a version of Mg2a developed on Cygwin 2011-02-25 6:47 ` Bengt Larsson @ 2011-02-25 6:55 ` Kenneth Wolcott 2011-02-25 14:09 ` Bengt Larsson 0 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread From: Kenneth Wolcott @ 2011-02-25 6:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin One comment in-line... On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 22:47, Bengt Larsson <lists.cygwin2@bengtl.net> wrote: > Cyrille Lefevre wrote: > > Thanks for your informed criticism. But I haven't suggested it should be > delivered with Cygwin. > >>make install should copy mg to /bin instead of /docs/Command, > > Yup > >>copy >>documentation files in /usr/share/doc/mg3a and samples (dot files) >>in /us/share/doc/mg3a/examples > > Yes. Thanks. > >> >>v2$ echo $LANG >>en_US.UTF-8 >> >>v2$ mg >>M-x emacs-version >>Mg 2a (formerly MicroGnuEmacs) > > Ah. Thanks. > >> >>s/2/3/ no ? >> >>v2$ mg >>^H a RET >>apropos: Segmentation fault >>uh! > > Old bug. Menitioned in the old documentation. Incredibly hairy code. > >> >>sigh, no ^X d (aka dired mode) by default ! > > True. I never use it. I kind of philosophically disagree with it. Strange, as "dired" is one of the most important pieces of emacs and when one says "emacs" and then says "but this version doesn't have 'dired'", the emacs person will go, "What?!" It's kInd of like having a kitchen sink with no running water :-) >>well, I've tried w/o NO_DIRED and d_makename() needs to be rewritten >>a lot to handle dynamic comlumns sizing of gnu ls :-( > > It was good that it worked at all :-) > > There is also a NO_BACKUP #define. I don't guarantee what happens if you > remove it. > >>to compile w/o NO_DIRED, in function fbackupfile in file fileio.c, replace : >>char *malloc(); >>by >>#define rename renamefile > > Helpful. Thanks. > >> >>^Z doesn't suspend ! > > I know. The very old code did this for a BSD system. But I have never > figured out how to do this portably on a more modern system. Mentioned > in the documentation. > >> >>^X ^F doesn't complete :-( > > That would be a nice feature. > >> >>no M-T (transpose-words) > > Hmm. Could be added I guess. >> >>M-x something say [Ambiguous] w/o listing possible solutions > > OK. It never did, actually. Of course we don't have to do everything > Emacs did. > >> >>about defines : >>-DNO_BACKUP may be replaced by -DMAKEBACKUP=0, so, it is disabled by >>default and may be enable using (make-backup-files) if needed. >>as suggested, -DLF_DEFAULT should be defined > > If it were distributed with Cygwin I would certainly define LF_DEFAULT. > I wouldn't do it all on my own, but certainly if it's a condition. > >>-DNOTAB seems to work fine but no-tab-mode and nobom must be switched in >>keymap.c > > OH! Thanks. Fixed. > >>-DPREFIXREGION seems to work fine >>-DREGEX seems to work fine > > I haven't touched those. > >>-DSCROLLBYONE seems to work fine > > OK. That was more thorough than I asked for ;-) But very helpful. > Thanks. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Re: Mg3a - a version of Mg2a developed on Cygwin 2011-02-25 6:55 ` Kenneth Wolcott @ 2011-02-25 14:09 ` Bengt Larsson 2011-02-25 21:46 ` Bengt Larsson 0 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread From: Bengt Larsson @ 2011-02-25 14:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin Kenneth Wolcott wrote: >>>sigh, no ^X d (aka dired mode) by default ! >> >> True. I never use it. I kind of philosophically disagree with it. > > Strange, as "dired" is one of the most important pieces of emacs and >when one says "emacs" and then says "but this version doesn't have >'dired'", the emacs person will go, "What?!" It's kInd of like having >a kitchen sink with no running water :-) Mmm. Could you tell me which commands you use, and what they do, in order of decreasing priority? I'm thinking one could do a simple dired, generating the list internally. Delete, Visit file, Rename, how does that sound? -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Re: Mg3a - a version of Mg2a developed on Cygwin 2011-02-25 14:09 ` Bengt Larsson @ 2011-02-25 21:46 ` Bengt Larsson 2011-02-26 2:48 ` Kenneth Wolcott 0 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread From: Bengt Larsson @ 2011-02-25 21:46 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin Bengt Larsson wrote: >Kenneth Wolcott wrote: >>>>sigh, no ^X d (aka dired mode) by default ! >>> >>> True. I never use it. I kind of philosophically disagree with it. >> >> Strange, as "dired" is one of the most important pieces of emacs and >>when one says "emacs" and then says "but this version doesn't have >>'dired'", the emacs person will go, "What?!" It's kInd of like having >>a kitchen sink with no running water :-) > >Mmm. Could you tell me which commands you use, and what they do, in >order of decreasing priority? > >I'm thinking one could do a simple dired, generating the list >internally. Delete, Visit file, Rename, how does that sound? I have implemented dired. But I suppose this is getting off topic. There is some support for creating a mailing list at my domain so I'll see if I can do that. If I do, I'll announce it here. I'll keep updating the website. there will be a Changelog. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Re: Mg3a - a version of Mg2a developed on Cygwin 2011-02-25 21:46 ` Bengt Larsson @ 2011-02-26 2:48 ` Kenneth Wolcott 0 siblings, 0 replies; 28+ messages in thread From: Kenneth Wolcott @ 2011-02-26 2:48 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 13:46, Bengt Larsson <lists.cygwin2@bengtl.net> wrote: > Bengt Larsson wrote: >>Kenneth Wolcott wrote: >>>>>sigh, no ^X d (aka dired mode) by default ! >>>> >>>> True. I never use it. I kind of philosophically disagree with it. >>> >>> Strange, as "dired" is one of the most important pieces of emacs and >>>when one says "emacs" and then says "but this version doesn't have >>>'dired'", the emacs person will go, "What?!" It's kInd of like having >>>a kitchen sink with no running water :-) >> >>Mmm. Could you tell me which commands you use, and what they do, in >>order of decreasing priority? >> >>I'm thinking one could do a simple dired, generating the list >>internally. Delete, Visit file, Rename, how does that sound? > > I have implemented dired. > > But I suppose this is getting off topic. There is some support for > creating a mailing list at my domain so I'll see if I can do that. If I > do, I'll announce it here. I'll keep updating the website. there will be > a Changelog. What most people who used Emacs would use Dired for is to avoid having to go to a terminal shell to do: ls ls -l ls -lrt ls -d rm <some_file> rm <glob_expression> mv <file1> <file2> chmod chown many, many other things as well Ken Wolcott -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Re: Mg3a - a version of Mg2a developed on Cygwin 2011-02-24 10:56 ` Bengt Larsson 2011-02-24 11:15 ` Corinna Vinschen @ 2011-02-24 11:19 ` Bengt Larsson 2011-02-24 11:51 ` Corinna Vinschen 1 sibling, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread From: Bengt Larsson @ 2011-02-24 11:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin Bengt Larsson wrote: >I don't use surrogates. I only use UTF-8 and UTF-32. But using cygwin's >wcwidth may be worth thinking about. I suppose it will be consistent >with mintty that way; otherwise not? And: is wcwidth always available in modern Unices? How do you find out these things? I mean practically available. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Re: Mg3a - a version of Mg2a developed on Cygwin 2011-02-24 11:19 ` Bengt Larsson @ 2011-02-24 11:51 ` Corinna Vinschen 2011-02-24 14:48 ` Eric Blake 0 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread From: Corinna Vinschen @ 2011-02-24 11:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin On Feb 24 12:19, Bengt Larsson wrote: > Bengt Larsson wrote: > >I don't use surrogates. I only use UTF-8 and UTF-32. But using cygwin's > >wcwidth may be worth thinking about. I suppose it will be consistent > >with mintty that way; otherwise not? > > And: is wcwidth always available in modern Unices? How do you find out > these things? I mean practically available. wcwidth and wcswidth are XSI extensions, so they are optional. As for finding out, that's usally nicely done by autoconf'ing your project. Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Project Co-Leader cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Red Hat -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Re: Mg3a - a version of Mg2a developed on Cygwin 2011-02-24 11:51 ` Corinna Vinschen @ 2011-02-24 14:48 ` Eric Blake 0 siblings, 0 replies; 28+ messages in thread From: Eric Blake @ 2011-02-24 14:48 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1284 bytes --] On 02/24/2011 04:50 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > On Feb 24 12:19, Bengt Larsson wrote: >> Bengt Larsson wrote: >>> I don't use surrogates. I only use UTF-8 and UTF-32. But using cygwin's >>> wcwidth may be worth thinking about. I suppose it will be consistent >>> with mintty that way; otherwise not? >> >> And: is wcwidth always available in modern Unices? How do you find out >> these things? I mean practically available. > > wcwidth and wcswidth are XSI extensions, so they are optional. As for > finding out, that's usally nicely done by autoconf'ing your project. And if you don't mind [L]GPL licensing, gnulib provides a source code replacement that guarantees wide character support on all modern porting platforms (particularly useful for mingw, which is sorely lacking on this front); and is currently working on introducing a wwchar_t type that is guaranteed to be UTF-32 even on cygwin (this is how coreutils gets wide character support for things like wc). Portions of that gnulib code are incorporated into libunistring. But from the sounds of your program's license, I'm not sure you can take advantage of gnulib or libunistring. -- Eric Blake eblake@redhat.com +1-801-349-2682 Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org [-- Attachment #2: OpenPGP digital signature --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 619 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* wcwidth and terminals [Re: Mg3a - a version of Mg2a developed on Cygwin] 2011-02-24 8:56 ` Corinna Vinschen 2011-02-24 10:56 ` Bengt Larsson @ 2011-02-25 8:05 ` Thomas Wolff 2011-02-25 11:06 ` Corinna Vinschen 1 sibling, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread From: Thomas Wolff @ 2011-02-25 8:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin Am 24.02.2011 09:56, schrieb Corinna Vinschen: > When on Cygwin, you might better use Cygwin's(*) wcwidth function. It's > based on the same code from Markus Kuhn, but it interacts with the > setlocale function to make sure that the width returned for the CJK > ambiguous width characters makes sense in the given locale. Plus, it > supports a Cygwin-specific locale modifier '@cjknarrow' which allows the > user to modify this behaviour. When using your own wcwidth, you're > giving up on this feature. On the other hand, not specific for cygwin, the wcwidth/wcswidht functions are in general based on installed locale data. But you can never know whether the terminal you are running in actually uses those data. On a Linux system, you may encounter a wide range of different environments, for example: rxvt based on system locale which is often based on an outdated locale data installation (e.g. Unicode 3) xterm with a hard-coded wcwidth mlterm with some tweaks remote operation (rlogin/ssh to/from other system) with inconsistent locale data base ... For that reason, my editor mined implements an auto-detection of actual terminal width data (checking Unicode version and a number of terminal-specific odds). For cygwin, it might be useful (although not standard) for wcwidth to consider whether it's running in a cygwin console or a terminal, so e.g. wcwidth (0x8080) should return 2 in mintty but 1 in a cygwin console. Erik Blake wrote: > And if you don't mind [L]GPL licensing, gnulib provides a source code > replacement that guarantees wide character support on all modern porting > platforms (particularly useful for mingw, which is sorely lacking on > this front); and is currently working on introducing a wwchar_t type > that is guaranteed to be UTF-32 even on cygwin (this is how coreutils > gets wide character support for things like wc). Portions of that > gnulib code are incorporated into libunistring. But from the sounds of > your program's license, I'm not sure you can take advantage of gnulib or > libunistring. Maybe I should check whether my auto-detection code could be contributed to that project... Thomas -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Re: wcwidth and terminals [Re: Mg3a - a version of Mg2a developed on Cygwin] 2011-02-25 8:05 ` wcwidth and terminals [Re: Mg3a - a version of Mg2a developed on Cygwin] Thomas Wolff @ 2011-02-25 11:06 ` Corinna Vinschen 2011-02-26 9:52 ` Andy Koppe 0 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread From: Corinna Vinschen @ 2011-02-25 11:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin On Feb 25 09:05, Thomas Wolff wrote: > Am 24.02.2011 09:56, schrieb Corinna Vinschen: > >When on Cygwin, you might better use Cygwin's(*) wcwidth function. It's > >based on the same code from Markus Kuhn, but it interacts with the > >setlocale function to make sure that the width returned for the CJK > >ambiguous width characters makes sense in the given locale. Plus, it > >supports a Cygwin-specific locale modifier '@cjknarrow' which allows the > >user to modify this behaviour. When using your own wcwidth, you're > >giving up on this feature. > On the other hand, not specific for cygwin, the wcwidth/wcswidht > functions are in general based on installed locale data. > But you can never know whether the terminal you are running in > actually uses those data. > On a Linux system, you may encounter a wide range of different > environments, for example: > rxvt based on system locale which is often based on an outdated > locale data installation (e.g. Unicode 3) > xterm with a hard-coded wcwidth > mlterm with some tweaks > remote operation (rlogin/ssh to/from other system) with inconsistent > locale data base > ... > > For that reason, my editor mined implements an auto-detection of > actual terminal width data (checking Unicode version and a number of > terminal-specific odds). > > For cygwin, it might be useful (although not standard) for wcwidth > to consider whether it's running in a cygwin console or a terminal, > so e.g. wcwidth (0x8080) should return 2 in mintty but 1 in a cygwin > console. Hmm, I don't think that's the right thing to do. How's the OS version of wcwidht supposed to know what the wcwidth function is used for? After all, the application does *not* specify that it calls wcwidth to get the size of a character for a specifc purpose. How's the function to know that the character is supposed to be printed to the current tty? What if the application has open handles to more than one tty? Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Project Co-Leader cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Red Hat -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Re: wcwidth and terminals [Re: Mg3a - a version of Mg2a developed on Cygwin] 2011-02-25 11:06 ` Corinna Vinschen @ 2011-02-26 9:52 ` Andy Koppe 0 siblings, 0 replies; 28+ messages in thread From: Andy Koppe @ 2011-02-26 9:52 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin On 25 February 2011 11:05, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > On Feb 25 09:05, Thomas Wolff wrote: >> For cygwin, it might be useful (although not standard) for wcwidth >> to consider whether it's running in a cygwin console or a terminal, >> so e.g. wcwidth (0x8080) should return 2 in mintty but 1 in a cygwin >> console. > > Hmm, I don't think that's the right thing to do. How's the OS version > of wcwidht supposed to know what the wcwidth function is used for? > After all, the application does *not* specify that it calls wcwidth > to get the size of a character for a specifc purpose. How's the function > to know that the character is supposed to be printed to the current tty? > What if the application has open handles to more than one tty? I agree. Also, I'd be surprised if character width in the console was actually constant across different locales, fonts, and Windows versions. Andy -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
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