From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 29469 invoked by alias); 24 May 2011 06:22:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 29460 invoked by uid 22791); 24 May 2011 06:22:32 -0000 X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from nm9.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (HELO nm9.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com) (98.139.91.79) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.43rc1) with SMTP; Tue, 24 May 2011 06:22:15 +0000 Received: from [98.139.91.64] by nm9.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 May 2011 06:22:14 -0000 Received: from [208.71.42.193] by tm4.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 May 2011 06:22:14 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp204.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 May 2011 06:22:14 -0000 Received: from cgf.cx (cgf@173.48.46.160 with login) by smtp204.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 May 2011 23:22:13 -0700 PDT X-Yahoo-SMTP: jenXL62swBAWhMTL3wnej93oaS0ClBQOAKs8jbEbx_o- Received: from localhost (ednor.casa.cgf.cx [192.168.187.5]) by cgf.cx (Postfix) with ESMTP id D555E42804C for ; Tue, 24 May 2011 02:22:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 06:22:00 -0000 From: Christopher Faylor To: cygwin@cygwin.com Subject: Re: CYGWIN=tty round 2 Message-ID: <20110524062212.GA13144@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> Reply-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com References: <20110522211906.GA13428@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> <1306119201.4572.4.camel@YAAKOV04> <4DDAEBEC.6030704@ece.cmu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4DDAEBEC.6030704@ece.cmu.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com X-SW-Source: 2011-05/txt/msg00342.txt.bz2 On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 07:21:16PM -0400, Ryan Johnson wrote: >On 22/05/2011 10:53 PM, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote: >>On Sun, 2011-05-22 at 17:19 -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: >>>I don't think we saw anyone step forward with a valid reason why they >>>needed to use CYGWIN=tty over something like "mintty". >>> >>>I've summarized the thread where Corinna asked why people used >>>CYGWIN=tty over CYGWIN=notty below. >>> >>>I don't see any showstoppers here so unless people can provide specific >>>examples of how this change would cause hardwhip, we'll be removing >>>CYGWIN=tty in a snapshot near you soon. >>I could add XWin: >> >>http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=9763 >> >>And once again, using mintty is a solution. >> >>Since mintty is the solution to so many of these scenarios, shouldn't >>we make it the default terminal (IOW add mintty to Base and replace the >>Cygwin.bat shortcut with mintty's)? The status quo just encourages >>people to use a deficient terminal without any idea that a better one >>exists. >I would be happy to see mintty as the default. Since discovering it I >essentially stopped using X because xterm was my main reason for firing >it up. > >However... isn't there some dire warning that gdb only will ever work >properly (some of the time) from within a vanilla console window? >Something to do with ^C handling? > >Mind you, I'd love that restriction to be lifted, but it sounded pretty >hard and fast the last few times the topic came up. On the other hand, >most casual cygwin users won't be needing gdb often, if ever, so that >might not be enough reason to keep the console over mintty. Can we PLEASE stay on topic? This has nothing to do with CYGWIN=tty. If gdb didn't work in mintty it wouldn't work with CYGWIN=tty either. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple