From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2579 invoked by alias); 13 Jun 2011 15:34:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 2445 invoked by uid 22791); 13 Jun 2011 15:34:12 -0000 X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,TW_YG,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from nm29.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (HELO nm29.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com) (98.139.212.188) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.43rc1) with SMTP; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 15:33:49 +0000 Received: from [98.139.212.151] by nm29.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Jun 2011 15:33:49 -0000 Received: from [98.139.213.15] by tm8.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Jun 2011 15:33:49 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp115.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Jun 2011 15:33:48 -0000 Received: from cgf.cx (cgf@108.49.32.211 with login) by smtp115.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Jun 2011 08:33:48 -0700 PDT X-Yahoo-SMTP: jenXL62swBAWhMTL3wnej93oaS0ClBQOAKs8jbEbx_o- Received: from localhost (ednor.casa.cgf.cx [192.168.187.5]) by cgf.cx (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03FEF42804E for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 11:33:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 15:34:00 -0000 From: Christopher Faylor To: cygwin@cygwin.com Subject: Re: cygcheck's understanding of TZ Message-ID: <20110613153344.GA19880@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> Reply-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com References: <20110609094631.56364lzi64m7t4d3@messagerie.si.c-s.fr> <4DF10C13.3040208@cwilson.fastmail.fm> <811AA35F-E300-46E5-9FE3-EE7D5E58194B@free.fr> <20110609210632.GA1457@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> <4E1EF031-A2E0-4238-BD23-5089E2D7670F@free.fr> <20110610142124.GA5849@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> <1D852702-CB83-4DAA-A31A-D3F8A01E432A@free.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com X-SW-Source: 2011-06/txt/msg00129.txt.bz2 On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:06:46AM -0500, Edward McGuire wrote: >> On 2011-06-10 16:21, Christopher Faylor wrote: >>> we still have no idea [...] why you find it so crucial for >>> cygcheck to report the date with pinpoint accuracy > >On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 12:44, Denis Excoffier wrote: >> Wrong by 1h is not pinpoint accuracy (i think). > >I realize I don't have a vote, but I disagree with your patch. Idiot >proofing cygcheck(1) by forcing GMT on the user is overkill. >cygcheck(1) only gives invalid output when it gets invalid input. >Did cygcheck(1) and date(1) both give valid output with >TZ=CET-1CEST? FWIW, I'm not going to apply the patch. I may think about accepting a patch which displays the current timezone along with the current time or which causes cygcheck to understand Cygwin's TZ usage but there is no reason to force the date to UTC. It's supposed to be the "Current System Time" and that implies that it's the time the user expects when they look at the clock on their wall. I'm trying to be accommodating in case there is a valid concern lurking somewhere here but so far I think this whole discussion is really rather tempest in a teapot-y. cgf -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple