On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 05:49:54PM -0400, Ken Brown wrote: > On 9/17/2011 4:40 PM, David Sastre wrote: > >On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 09:45:37AM -0600, Eric Blake wrote: > >>On 09/09/2011 08:59 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > >>>On Sep 9 13:33, Andy Koppe wrote: > >>>>The 'C.UTF-8' default locale is not a bug, it was a deliberate design decision. > >>> > >>>Exactly. And it has been discussed a lot on the cygwin-apps mailing > >>>list. > >>> > >>>And above all, there *is* an official way for the user to align the > >>>Cygwin locale with the Windows locale, see the -s and -u options > >>>of the locale(1) command: > >>> > >>> http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/using-utils.html#locale > >> > >>On 09/09/2011 09:09 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > >>>>OK, then the following four facilities are needed in Cygwin. > >>>> > >>>>1) We need the name of the locale which is in effect when the user has > >>>> not specified environment variables. > >>> > >>>In Fedora, for instance, the fallback is what is set as system default > >>>in /etc/sysconfig/i18n. > >>> > >>>In Cygwin the fallback is the system default set in > >>/etc/profile.d/lang.sh > >>>or /etc/profile.d/lang.csh. > >>> > >>>Why should libintl use anything else on Cygwin, but not on Linux? > >>> > >> > >>Given this, I think the bug is in cygwin for having base files > >>/etc/profile.d/lang.{sh,csh} which hardcode LANG to C.UTF-8 instead > >>of using locale -s -u to default LANG to the preferred Windows > >>settings. Libintl should NOT be second-guessing an explicit setting > >>of LANG, but cygwin should NOT be explicitly setting LANG to C.UTF-8 > >>in its default startup scripts without any regards to the Windows > >>settings. Whether setlocale(LC_ALL,"") returns C.UTF-8 or a > >>Windows-appropriate string _when LANG is undefined_ is still worth > >>solving, but right now, an out-of-the-box cygwin installation > >>_always has LANG defined_ by the default startup scripts. So our > >>first focus should be to get that setting of LANG fixed to honor > >>Windows, and to teach libintl that when LANG is set we really meant > >>it. > > > >WRT the base-files package, would it be acceptable/does it make sense to set: > > > >test -z "${LC_ALL:-${LC_CTYPE:-$LANG}}"&& export LANG=${locale -sU} > > > >in /etc/profile.d/lang.sh and > > > >if ( $?LC_ALL == 0&& $?LC_CTYPE == 0&& $?LANG == 0 ) setenv LANG = `locale -sU` > > > >in /etc/profile.d/lang.csh, both as proposed, _and_ a (possibly) commented-out > > > >test -z "${LC_ALL:-${LC_CTYPE:-$LANG}}"&& export LANG=${locale -uU} > > > >in the skeletal .bash_profile and .profile (i.e. both system-wide and > >user defined settings)? > > If you want the user-defined setting to take effect, wouldn't you > have to omit the `test -z ...'? LANG will already be set when > .bash_profile is processed. Indeed, excuse the fast copy-paste. The proposal still stands. -- Huella de clave primaria: AD8F BDC0 5A2C FD5F A179 60E7 F79B AB04 5299 EC56