From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16708 invoked by alias); 2 Aug 2012 14:02:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 16689 invoked by uid 22791); 2 Aug 2012 14:02:01 -0000 X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_YE X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from mho-01-ewr.mailhop.org (HELO mho-01-ewr.mailhop.org) (204.13.248.71) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.43rc1) with ESMTP; Thu, 02 Aug 2012 14:01:41 +0000 Received: from pool-173-76-45-230.bstnma.fios.verizon.net ([173.76.45.230] helo=cgf.cx) by mho-01-ewr.mailhop.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Swvy8-000PTT-Ki for cygwin@cygwin.com; Thu, 02 Aug 2012 14:01:40 +0000 Received: from localhost (ednor.casa.cgf.cx [192.168.187.5]) by cgf.cx (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85E63429680 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2012 10:01:39 -0400 (EDT) X-Mail-Handler: Dyn Standard SMTP by Dyn X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.dyndns.com/services/sendlabs/outbound_abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX1+ynEI8kDN7JvzddjAnx+yJ Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 14:53:00 -0000 From: Christopher Faylor To: cygwin@cygwin.com Subject: Re: How to keep a dependency from [continually] appearing in setup Message-ID: <20120802140139.GA6793@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> Reply-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com References: <50185716.8050504@cornell.edu> <50191B67.5010106@cs.utoronto.ca> <50192B7B.5060501@cornell.edu> <50193AA8.8050307@cs.utoronto.ca> <50197B86.9060308@cornell.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com X-SW-Source: 2012-08/txt/msg00047.txt.bz2 On Thu, Aug 02, 2012 at 09:14:14AM +0000, Adam Dinwoodie wrote: >Ken Brown wrote: >>On 8/1/2012 10:18 AM, Ryan Johnson wrote: >>> It can be argued that emacs-auctex should not pull in texlive. Most >>> users installing emacs-auctex will already have some flavor of tex in >>> place, and not necessarily the cygwin one (like the OP, or perhaps a >>> MikTex user). Plus, the error message is pretty intuitive and the >>> solution very simple, if latex is not there: "latex: no such command" >>> ==> "maybe I should install latex." Therefore, the expected aggregate >> >>There's more to it than that. emacs-auctex installs stuff needed for >>its preview feature in /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/preview/. This won't >>be found by native texlive or by MikTeX. >> >>> frustration of users who installed auctex without latex available would >>> likely be far lower than the aggregate frustration of users wanting to >>> install auctex and getting saddled with an unwanted redundant texlive >>> distribution (for which there is no easy solution). >> >>Why is this so frustrating? It doesn't do any harm (except waste a >>small amount of disk space) to install Cygwin's texlive in parallel with >>native texlive. Just make sure the bin directory of the latter precedes >>/usr/bin in PATH. I myself have both installed, since I sometimes find >>it useful for testing purposes to be able to switch from one to the >>other (by temporarily changing PATH). > >I'd draw a parallel between the emacs-auctex's dependency on latex and libX11's >dependency on xorg-server: while xorg-server is certainly the preferred X >server for Cygwin, it's not the only option[0]. > >[0]: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2012-02/msg00602.html That is not the same thing at all. You can run xterm on your Windows box without an X server. It's not the same as suggesting that a package dependency which could theoretically be solved by installing a non-cygwin package should be accommodated or encouraged by a cygwin package. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple