From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 1340 invoked by alias); 28 Jun 2013 14:38:49 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Received: (qmail 1331 invoked by uid 89); 28 Jun 2013 14:38:49 -0000 X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_YE autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 Received: from mho-03-ewr.mailhop.org (HELO mho-01-ewr.mailhop.org) (204.13.248.66) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.84/v0.84-167-ge50287c) with ESMTP; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 14:38:48 +0000 Received: from pool-72-74-71-174.bstnma.fios.verizon.net ([72.74.71.174] helo=cgf.cx) by mho-01-ewr.mailhop.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UsZp0-0006ms-Rt for cygwin@cygwin.com; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 14:38:46 +0000 Received: from localhost (ednor.casa.cgf.cx [192.168.187.5]) by cgf.cx (Postfix) with ESMTP id 466D560141 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 10:38:46 -0400 (EDT) X-Mail-Handler: Dyn Standard SMTP by Dyn X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.dyndns.com/services/sendlabs/outbound_abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX1+4UdjLdLgo/fS4sWRSNjNN Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 16:28:00 -0000 From: Christopher Faylor To: cygwin@cygwin.com Subject: Re: 1.7.20: cygicons-0.dll has gone missing Message-ID: <20130628143846.GA5630@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> Reply-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com References: <6CF2FC1279D0844C9357664DC5A08BA20D913A@MLBXV06.nih.gov> <0D835E9B9CD07F40A48423F80D3B5A7021D8C894@USA7109MB022.na.xerox.net> <51CC3936.5060302@gmail.com> <257023591.20130628141617@mtu-net.ru> <51CD9C39.8000907@cwilson.fastmail.fm> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <51CD9C39.8000907@cwilson.fastmail.fm> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-SW-Source: 2013-06/txt/msg00726.txt.bz2 On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 10:22:49AM -0400, Charles Wilson wrote: >On 6/28/2013 6:16 AM, Andrey Repin wrote: >>>>> The cygutils package was recently split into cygutils-extra and >>>>> cygutils-x11. Install cygutils-extra. >>>> >>>> Doesn't this suggest that cygicons-0.dll should be included >>>> in the base cygwin package? >> >>> base does not needs icons, so in IMHO no. >> >> That's a bit flawed line, IMO. >> Default install should put user's system in a consistent working order. >> Missing icons is not something I would call "consistent". > >What part of a default install [1] *requires* icons from cygicon-0.dll? > Now, if you're talking about updating an existing cygwin installation >via setup.exe [with no special package selection], then yeah -- this is >a *known* breakage. But it's better than the previous *known issue* >where a default "Base" install [1] would pull in python and bits of X11. > THAT is what this packaging change was intended to fix, and because we >did so deliberately in order to break requires: dependencies, we >couldn't very well avoid the problem you see by adding those same >requires: dependencies right back. > >Summary: READ the cygwin-announce list. Always. KNOW what you're doing >when you upgrade. AND, if you didn't do that...when you see an error >due to a "routine upgrade"...go back and DO read that list. > >[1] And by "default install" I mean "new installation of cygwin, using >setup.exe, on a virgin system that has never before had cygwin >installed", where NO special package selection is made. E.g. a "Base" >installation. > >And really, missing icons doesn't break a darn thing. It just makes >things look less pretty, temporarily, until you manually install the >correct package. What he said. cgf -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple