From: Corinna Vinschen <corinna-cygwin@cygwin.com>
To: cygwin@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: Testers needed: New passwd/group handling in Cygwin
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 12:52:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140215125043.GK2246@calimero.vinschen.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52FE786F.9040203@etr-usa.com>
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On Feb 14 13:11, Warren Young wrote:
> On 2/14/2014 03:42, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> >On Feb 13 17:30, Warren Young wrote:
> >>On 2/13/2014 07:38, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> >
> >>> Apart from power shell scripting or inventing new CLI tools, these
> >>> attributes can be changed using the "Attribute Editor" tab in the user
> >>> properties dialog of the "Active Directory Users and Computers"
> >>> MMC snap-in.
> >>
> >>A week ago, we were talking about possible Cygwin
> >>{user,group}{add,mod} programs, modeled on Linux's. Was that simply
> >>shelved once "net user" and MMC were found to be sufficient?
> >
> >Huh? "Apart from [...] or inventing new CLI tools, [...]"
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> I wasn't sure how to interpret that. It could be read as an
> unfulfilled possibility or as dismissing a ridiculous idea. i.e.
> "Apart from rewriting Cygwin in Erlang..."
Nah, I'm not *always* cynical.
> >>If, magically, such programs were to appear from outside the Cygwin
> >>core dev group, would that be a good thing or a bad thing?
> >
> >It would be a really great thing!
>
> Okay. I thought you might feel proprietary about such tools. "I
> know how it needs to be written, so I'm going to be the one to write
> it, right after the other 59 bazillion things on my wishlist."
Actually, high on my wishlist is more active maintainers for the distro.
We have a couple of maintainers of very important packages which only
show up very sporadically lately, which is pretty frustrating.
> >>I know I'm bikeshedding, but "unix" seems like a pretty vague
> >>attribute name here.
> >
> >Really, I'm open to suggestions to have a better keyword, but it
> >should make very clear that this is not your Cygwin uid/gid.
>
> Okay, netfsuid, then.
Hmm.
> >>"All" processes?
> >
> >You are absolutely right, but, please, suggest a better wording.
>
> "If you create or change /etc/nsswitch.conf, you need to restart all
> Cygwin processes that need to see the change. If the process you
> want to see the change is a child of another process, you need to
> restart all of that process's parents, too."
> [...]
> Better?
Yes. Thanks a lot. I grabbed all of this including your followup
change shamelessly and added it to the text.
> >What entry would you find in passwd which you
> >didn't already find in SAM or via the implemented automatisms
> >for unknown SIDs?
>
> That makes sense.
>
> Is nsswitch.conf the right thing, then? Are we borrowing that
> mechanism just because it exists and looks close enough?
Perhaps.
> It seems to me that we really only need a single Boolean setting:
>
> ignore_db=true
No, that's not right. We have two mechanisms implemented you can
choose three out of four possible combinations:
files only
db only
files, then db
> If this is true, it uses files only. If false, DB is the sole
> source of truth if /etc/{passwd,group} are missing, or it is a
> fallback source of truth if those files are present.
The third combination is to prevent Cygwin from reading /etc/passwd
and /etc/group at all. It drops any check for existence, too, which
is one code point less which has to run for each getpwXXX/getgrXXX
invocation.
> Does this help us get to a world where we configure this in
> nscd.conf, as cgf proposed?
I'm open to discuss this. We can switch from nssswitch.conf to
nscd.conf, but our settings will still not match the role-model,
so it's kind of a name-reuse only, either way.
Corinna
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Thread overview: 170+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-02-13 14:44 Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-13 16:05 ` Steven Penny
2014-02-13 16:17 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-13 16:20 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-13 16:42 ` Andrey Repin
2014-02-13 18:41 ` Lord Laraby
2014-02-13 18:49 ` Larry Hall (Cygwin)
2014-02-13 19:05 ` Lord Laraby
2014-02-13 19:37 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-13 19:52 ` Andrey Repin
2014-02-14 0:31 ` Warren Young
2014-02-14 7:36 ` Andrey Repin
2014-02-14 8:00 ` Warren Young
2014-02-14 9:47 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-13 19:33 ` Andrey Repin
2014-02-13 19:50 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-13 19:41 ` m0viefreak
2014-02-13 19:56 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-13 22:20 ` David Stacey
2014-02-14 9:05 ` Dave Kilroy
2014-02-14 10:16 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-14 11:00 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-14 13:51 ` Kurt Franke
2014-02-14 14:05 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-14 9:49 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-13 23:12 ` New passwd/group handling in Cygwin - test results and observations Andrey Repin
2014-02-14 10:42 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-14 12:35 ` Andrey Repin
2014-02-14 14:13 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-16 14:34 ` Andrey Repin
2014-02-16 14:48 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-16 15:44 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-16 15:52 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-16 16:35 ` Andrey Repin
2014-02-14 6:40 ` Testers needed: New passwd/group handling in Cygwin Warren Young
2014-02-14 10:48 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-14 12:56 ` Andrey Repin
2014-02-14 14:15 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-14 20:18 ` Warren Young
2014-02-14 21:49 ` Warren Young
2014-02-15 12:52 ` Corinna Vinschen [this message]
2014-02-16 11:48 ` Warren Young
2014-02-16 12:00 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-16 14:50 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-16 17:15 ` Christopher Faylor
2014-02-16 18:30 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-16 16:35 ` Warren Young
2014-02-16 16:53 ` Andrey Repin
2014-02-14 10:20 ` Frank Fesevur
2014-02-14 10:50 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-14 12:05 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-14 14:04 ` Ken Brown
2014-02-14 14:22 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-14 15:23 ` Ken Brown
2014-02-15 2:51 ` Frank Fesevur
2014-02-15 12:56 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-19 9:32 ` Frank Fesevur
2014-02-17 17:25 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-19 15:05 ` Andrey Repin
2014-02-19 18:50 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-19 19:32 ` Andrey Repin
2014-02-19 19:56 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-19 20:27 ` Andrey Repin
2014-02-20 16:02 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-20 17:35 ` Andrey Repin
2014-02-21 15:33 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-21 16:29 ` Ken Brown
2014-02-21 16:31 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-25 18:25 ` Achim Gratz
2014-02-25 19:16 ` Andrey Repin
2014-02-25 20:04 ` Achim Gratz
2014-02-25 20:25 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-25 20:28 ` Achim Gratz
2014-02-25 21:55 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-25 22:59 ` Andrey Repin
2014-02-26 3:09 ` Andrey Repin
2014-02-26 10:02 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-26 9:06 ` Achim Gratz
2014-02-26 10:07 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-26 16:12 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-26 19:14 ` Achim Gratz
2014-02-27 9:08 ` Achim Gratz
2014-02-27 9:49 ` Achim Gratz
2014-02-27 9:58 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-27 13:25 ` Achim Gratz
2014-02-27 15:09 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-27 23:20 ` Andrey Repin
2014-02-28 12:09 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-28 20:10 ` Achim Gratz
2014-02-28 20:29 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-28 21:08 ` Frank Fesevur
2014-02-28 21:13 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-28 21:50 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-03-02 13:21 ` Frank Fesevur
2014-03-03 9:21 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-03-03 12:19 ` Frank Fesevur
2014-03-03 12:29 ` Henry S. Thompson
2014-03-03 13:19 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-03-03 17:06 ` Andrey Repin
2014-03-04 8:07 ` Warren Young
2014-03-04 8:08 ` Andrey Repin
2014-03-04 8:10 ` Warren Young
2014-03-04 8:19 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-03-05 16:47 ` Warren Young
2014-03-05 20:18 ` Andrey Repin
2014-03-05 23:09 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-03-03 18:24 ` Andy Hall
2014-03-01 8:59 ` Achim Gratz
2014-02-28 22:35 ` Andrey Repin
2014-02-28 23:03 ` Andrey Repin
2014-03-03 9:23 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-03-03 14:50 ` Andrey Repin
2014-03-03 15:07 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-03-03 15:35 ` Andrey Repin
2014-03-03 15:41 ` Andrey Repin
2014-03-03 20:50 ` Andrey Repin
2014-03-03 22:28 ` Andrey Repin
2014-03-03 23:09 ` Andrey Repin
2014-03-04 0:37 ` Andrey Repin
2014-03-04 11:35 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-28 15:49 ` Achim Gratz
2014-02-28 17:43 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-03-10 18:14 ` Achim Gratz
2014-03-10 18:29 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-03-10 19:21 ` Achim Gratz
2014-03-10 20:11 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-03-10 20:37 ` Achim Gratz
2014-03-11 11:56 ` Achim Gratz
2014-03-11 12:07 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-03-11 12:40 ` Achim Gratz
2014-03-11 13:37 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-03-11 17:06 ` Achim Gratz
2014-03-11 18:14 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-03-11 18:50 ` Achim Gratz
2014-03-11 19:56 ` Achim Gratz
2014-03-12 9:27 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-03-12 18:00 ` Achim Gratz
2014-05-06 20:08 ` Achim Gratz
2014-03-12 9:23 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-27 19:08 ` Frank Fesevur
2014-02-27 19:38 ` Andrey Repin
2014-02-27 20:16 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-27 23:36 ` Andrey Repin
2014-02-27 20:10 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-28 14:10 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-18 17:48 J.H. vd Water
2014-02-18 17:54 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-18 18:14 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-18 18:44 J.H. vd Water
2014-02-18 19:13 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-18 19:08 J.H. vd Water
2014-02-18 19:18 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-18 19:25 Lavrentiev, Anton (NIH/NLM/NCBI) [C]
2014-02-18 19:35 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-18 20:02 ` Lavrentiev, Anton (NIH/NLM/NCBI) [C]
2014-02-19 8:38 J.H. vd Water
2014-02-19 11:02 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-19 11:48 J.H. vd Water
2014-02-19 15:47 ` Andrey Repin
2014-02-19 16:06 ` J.H. vd Water
2014-02-19 19:20 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-19 21:15 J.H. vd Water
2014-02-20 11:24 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-20 12:04 J.H. vd Water
2014-02-20 13:16 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-20 13:34 J.H. vd Water
2014-02-20 14:57 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-20 19:05 J.H. vd Water
2014-02-20 19:23 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-21 7:41 J.H. vd Water
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