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From: Corinna Vinschen <corinna-cygwin@cygwin.com>
To: cygwin@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: Testers needed: New passwd/group handling in Cygwin
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2014 09:21:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140303092114.GA26619@calimero.vinschen.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKf2h5QbafQq25jndf8RdDGWsp_MMfziBep2Pe1H7rA+OmOCdA@mail.gmail.com>

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On Mar  2 14:20, Frank Fesevur wrote:
> 2014-02-28 22:08 GMT+01:00 Corinna Vinschen:
> > That's not really a problem but a case of "it is as it is".  To get the
> > user and group info, Cygwin has to contact the DC and/or GC and then
> > runs into a timeout.  Right now, the LDAP timeout is set to 3 seconds.
> > I don't know yet if it's such a bright idea to lower this timeout value.
> 
> I understand why it happens. And three seconds are not the problem.
> 
> It is just a bit confusing to activate the shortcut and for 3 seconds
> nothing seems to happen. First time I double-clicked again because I
> though it wasn't working at all. Obviously a bit later two terminal
> showed up. If mintty would should up empty and "wait" those three
> seconds before something happens it is more clear it just takes some
> startup time. But maybe that is more a mintty problem.

No, this is not mintty's fault.  You have to understand that the
request for information from the DC is called before the actual
application had any chance to initialize,  This happens before
the application has, in fact, been called from the Cygwin DLL.

Therefore, if the three seconds are a burden, there are three choices
going forward:

- We reduce the timeout to 1 second in general, which could be a problem
  when utilizing a slow VPN conncetion to the DC,

- We allow the user to specify a timeout value and set the default to
  1 second.

- We stick to the 3 seconds and users should switch to files (/etc/passwd
  /etc/group) when being offline from their DC.

I'm really not sure what the best way is, I guess we as a community have
to dice this out somehow.


Corinna

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Corinna Vinschen                  Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to
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  reply	other threads:[~2014-03-03  9:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 170+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-13 14:44 Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-13 16:05 ` Steven Penny
2014-02-13 16:17   ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-13 16:20     ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-13 16:42   ` Andrey Repin
2014-02-13 18:41     ` Lord Laraby
2014-02-13 18:49       ` Larry Hall (Cygwin)
2014-02-13 19:05         ` Lord Laraby
2014-02-13 19:37         ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-13 19:52       ` Andrey Repin
2014-02-14  0:31     ` Warren Young
2014-02-14  7:36       ` Andrey Repin
2014-02-14  8:00       ` Warren Young
2014-02-14  9:47         ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-13 19:33 ` Andrey Repin
2014-02-13 19:50   ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-13 19:41 ` m0viefreak
2014-02-13 19:56   ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-13 22:20   ` David Stacey
2014-02-14  9:05     ` Dave Kilroy
2014-02-14 10:16       ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-14 11:00         ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-14 13:51           ` Kurt Franke
2014-02-14 14:05             ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-14  9:49     ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-13 23:12 ` New passwd/group handling in Cygwin - test results and observations Andrey Repin
2014-02-14 10:42   ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-14 12:35     ` Andrey Repin
2014-02-14 14:13       ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-16 14:34         ` Andrey Repin
2014-02-16 14:48           ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-16 15:44             ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-16 15:52               ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-16 16:35                 ` Andrey Repin
2014-02-14  6:40 ` Testers needed: New passwd/group handling in Cygwin Warren Young
2014-02-14 10:48   ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-14 12:56     ` Andrey Repin
2014-02-14 14:15       ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-14 20:18     ` Warren Young
2014-02-14 21:49       ` Warren Young
2014-02-15 12:52       ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-16 11:48         ` Warren Young
2014-02-16 12:00           ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-16 14:50             ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-16 17:15               ` Christopher Faylor
2014-02-16 18:30                 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-16 16:35             ` Warren Young
2014-02-16 16:53               ` Andrey Repin
2014-02-14 10:20 ` Frank Fesevur
2014-02-14 10:50   ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-14 12:05     ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-14 14:04       ` Ken Brown
2014-02-14 14:22         ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-14 15:23           ` Ken Brown
2014-02-15  2:51     ` Frank Fesevur
2014-02-15 12:56       ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-19  9:32         ` Frank Fesevur
2014-02-17 17:25 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-19 15:05   ` Andrey Repin
2014-02-19 18:50     ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-19 19:32       ` Andrey Repin
2014-02-19 19:56         ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-19 20:27           ` Andrey Repin
2014-02-20 16:02             ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-20 17:35               ` Andrey Repin
2014-02-21 15:33   ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-21 16:29     ` Ken Brown
2014-02-21 16:31       ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-25 18:25 ` Achim Gratz
2014-02-25 19:16   ` Andrey Repin
2014-02-25 20:04     ` Achim Gratz
2014-02-25 20:25   ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-25 20:28     ` Achim Gratz
2014-02-25 21:55       ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-25 22:59         ` Andrey Repin
2014-02-26  3:09         ` Andrey Repin
2014-02-26 10:02           ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-26  9:06         ` Achim Gratz
2014-02-26 10:07           ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-26 16:12             ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-26 19:14               ` Achim Gratz
2014-02-27  9:08               ` Achim Gratz
2014-02-27  9:49                 ` Achim Gratz
2014-02-27  9:58                   ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-27 13:25                     ` Achim Gratz
2014-02-27 15:09                       ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-27 23:20                         ` Andrey Repin
2014-02-28 12:09                           ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-28 20:10                             ` Achim Gratz
2014-02-28 20:29                               ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-28 21:08                                 ` Frank Fesevur
2014-02-28 21:13                                   ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-28 21:50                                     ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-03-02 13:21                                     ` Frank Fesevur
2014-03-03  9:21                                       ` Corinna Vinschen [this message]
2014-03-03 12:19                                         ` Frank Fesevur
2014-03-03 12:29                                           ` Henry S. Thompson
2014-03-03 13:19                                             ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-03-03 17:06                                         ` Andrey Repin
2014-03-04  8:07                                           ` Warren Young
2014-03-04  8:08                                             ` Andrey Repin
2014-03-04  8:10                                               ` Warren Young
2014-03-04  8:19                                                 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-03-05 16:47                                                   ` Warren Young
2014-03-05 20:18                                                     ` Andrey Repin
2014-03-05 23:09                                                     ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-03-03 18:24                                         ` Andy Hall
2014-03-01  8:59                                 ` Achim Gratz
2014-02-28 22:35                             ` Andrey Repin
2014-02-28 23:03                               ` Andrey Repin
2014-03-03  9:23                               ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-03-03 14:50                                 ` Andrey Repin
2014-03-03 15:07                                   ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-03-03 15:35                                     ` Andrey Repin
2014-03-03 15:41                                       ` Andrey Repin
2014-03-03 20:50                                     ` Andrey Repin
2014-03-03 22:28                                       ` Andrey Repin
2014-03-03 23:09                                     ` Andrey Repin
2014-03-04  0:37                                       ` Andrey Repin
2014-03-04 11:35                                       ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-28 15:49                     ` Achim Gratz
2014-02-28 17:43                       ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-03-10 18:14     ` Achim Gratz
2014-03-10 18:29       ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-03-10 19:21         ` Achim Gratz
2014-03-10 20:11           ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-03-10 20:37             ` Achim Gratz
2014-03-11 11:56               ` Achim Gratz
2014-03-11 12:07                 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-03-11 12:40                   ` Achim Gratz
2014-03-11 13:37                     ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-03-11 17:06                       ` Achim Gratz
2014-03-11 18:14                         ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-03-11 18:50                           ` Achim Gratz
2014-03-11 19:56                             ` Achim Gratz
2014-03-12  9:27                               ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-03-12 18:00                                 ` Achim Gratz
2014-05-06 20:08                               ` Achim Gratz
2014-03-12  9:23                             ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-27 19:08 ` Frank Fesevur
2014-02-27 19:38   ` Andrey Repin
2014-02-27 20:16     ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-27 23:36       ` Andrey Repin
2014-02-27 20:10   ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-28 14:10     ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-18 17:48 J.H. vd Water
2014-02-18 17:54 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-18 18:14   ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-18 18:44 J.H. vd Water
2014-02-18 19:13 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-18 19:08 J.H. vd Water
2014-02-18 19:18 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-18 19:25 Lavrentiev, Anton (NIH/NLM/NCBI) [C]
2014-02-18 19:35 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-18 20:02   ` Lavrentiev, Anton (NIH/NLM/NCBI) [C]
2014-02-19  8:38 J.H. vd Water
2014-02-19 11:02 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-19 11:48 J.H. vd Water
2014-02-19 15:47 ` Andrey Repin
2014-02-19 16:06   ` J.H. vd Water
2014-02-19 19:20 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-19 21:15 J.H. vd Water
2014-02-20 11:24 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-20 12:04 J.H. vd Water
2014-02-20 13:16 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-20 13:34 J.H. vd Water
2014-02-20 14:57 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-20 19:05 J.H. vd Water
2014-02-20 19:23 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-02-21  7:41 J.H. vd Water

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