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From: Corinna Vinschen <corinna-cygwin@cygwin.com>
To: cygwin@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: Microsoft Accounts (was Re: Problem with "None" Group on Non-Domain Members)
Date: Thu, 08 May 2014 20:09:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140508200947.GA2645@calimero.vinschen.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140507144611.GM30918@calimero.vinschen.de>

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On May  7 16:46, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> On May  7 10:09, Chris J. Breisch wrote:
> > Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> > >And here's a problem which I'm not sure how to solve at all:
> > >
> > >When calling the latest mkpasswd, the primary group of the local
> > >user account backing the Microsoft Account will *still* be "None".
> > >
> > >The reason is that the local account is just the same old account
> > >as usual.  Its default primary group *is* "None".
> > >
> > >Only when logging in via the Micosoft Account email address, the
> > >user token will not reflect what's stored in the local SAM, but
> > >will have been changed by the OS as outlined in this thread.
> > >
> > >So, when a user decides to create a passwd file rather than using
> > >the SAM/DB code in Cygwin, the information generated by mkpasswd
> > >will not match the user token, and the primary group stored in
> > >/etc/passwd will not even be available at all in the user token.
> > >
> > >I have not the faintest idea how to workaround this schizophrenia.
> > >
> > >
> > >Corinna
> > >
> > Oh wow. It took me two reads of this to understand it. Caffeine is
> > finally kicking in, I guess. Unless you just want to hard code the
> > primary group that mkpasswd generates to "Users" for any account
> > that it would tend to want to set as "None". That would be some
> > smelly code though.
> 
> Hmm, but it might fix a couple of problems.  If we go ahead and
> always convert the "None" primary group to "Users", we'd have a
> pretty stable state, which works nicely for local accounts,
> independently of habving logged in as normal account or as Microsoft 
> Account.  This might be the easiest workaound, in fact.

I created a new snapshot on http://cygwin.com/snapshots/ which
introduces the following behaviour, which is a bit less intrusive:

If a local account is connected to a Microsoft Account, the primary
group defaults to "Users".  If it's a normal local accout it defaults
to "None", as usual.  This also covers mkpasswd from the snapshot.  

This does not work if you continue to use an already existing
/etc/passwd file.  I have no good solution for this sccenario, other
than a (yet to be written) FAQ entry.

Hope that helps nevertheless.


Corinna

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Corinna Vinschen                  Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to
Cygwin Maintainer                 cygwin AT cygwin DOT com
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  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-08 20:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-05 13:49 Problem with "None" Group on Non-Domain Members Chris J. Breisch
2014-05-05 13:59 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-05-05 14:17   ` Chris J. Breisch
2014-05-05 14:47     ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-05-05 15:23       ` Chris J. Breisch
2014-05-05 15:42         ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-05-05 16:17           ` Chris J. Breisch
2014-05-05 16:57             ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-05-05 18:52               ` Robert Pendell
2014-05-06 13:02                 ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-05-05 18:56               ` Chris J. Breisch
2014-05-05 19:44                 ` Larry Hall (Cygwin)
2014-05-05 21:57                   ` Chris J. Breisch
2014-05-05 22:07                     ` Chris J. Breisch
2014-05-05 22:29                       ` Larry Hall (Cygwin)
2014-05-05 22:39                         ` Chris J. Breisch
2014-05-06  0:43                           ` Larry Hall (Cygwin)
2014-05-06 12:23                             ` Chris J. Breisch
2014-05-05 22:09                     ` Larry Hall (Cygwin)
2014-05-06 12:52                 ` Microsoft Accounts (was Re: Problem with "None" Group on Non-Domain Members) Corinna Vinschen
2014-05-06 12:55                   ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-05-06 13:01                   ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-05-07 12:26                     ` vlado99
2014-05-07 12:43                       ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-05-06 17:01                   ` Chris J. Breisch
2014-05-06 17:16                     ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-05-06 18:22                       ` Chris J. Breisch
2014-05-07 11:57                         ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-05-07 12:40                           ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-05-07 14:09                             ` Chris J. Breisch
2014-05-07 14:46                               ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-05-08 20:09                                 ` Corinna Vinschen [this message]
2014-05-08 23:18                                   ` Robert Pendell
2014-05-09  0:12                                     ` Ken Brown
2014-05-09  1:34                                       ` Robert Pendell
2014-05-09  6:11                                       ` Achim Gratz
2014-05-09  7:42                                     ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-05-07 14:05                           ` Andrey Repin
2014-05-07 14:20                             ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-05-07 14:43                               ` Corinna Vinschen
2014-05-07 14:05                           ` Chris J. Breisch
2014-05-07 14:35                             ` Corinna Vinschen

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