On Aug 31 09:36, Eric Blake wrote: > On 08/31/2016 08:04 AM, Frank Farance wrote: > > On 2016-08-31 08:09, Markus Hoenicka wrote: > >> At 2016-08-31 13:41, Schwarz, Konrad was heard to say: > >>> Sorry for the previous incomplete mail. > >>> > >>> So my problem is that date(1) outputs AM/PM style dates, whereas ls -l > >>> uses 24 hour times. > >>> > >>> $ ls -l rtos_benchmark.lst > >>> -rwxr-xr-x+ 1 mchn1350 Domain Users 263 Aug 31 13:14 rtos_benchmark.lst* > >>> $ date > >>> Wed, Aug 31, 2016 1:39:35 PM > >>> $ echo $LC_TIME > >>> > >>> $ echo $LANG > >>> en_US.UTF-8 > >>> > >>> Shouldn't they be using the same format? > > Not necessarily. ls hardcodes its default representation for files > younger than 6 months to: > > "%b %e %H:%M" > > while date hardcodes its default representation to: > > nl_langinfo(_DATE_FMT) > > > > > Furthermore, I'd say that the default output of "date" should look like > > the Linux one, which is the way it has looked on UNIX for about 40 years: > > > > Linux: Wed Aug 31 08:56:10 EDT 2016 > > Cygwin: Wed, Aug 31, 2016 08:54:49 > > > > In other words, on Cygwin: get rid of the commas, put back the timezone. > > Sounds like the bug is in cygwin1.dll's nl_langinfo() function for > returning a date format with spurious commas. Windows LOCALE_SLONGDATE contains these commas in the en-US locale. Outside of the "C"/"POSIX" locale the expectation of identical date/time strings on different platforms is not feasible. Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Maintainer cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Red Hat