From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 61357 invoked by alias); 9 Nov 2016 13:00:18 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Received: (qmail 61327 invoked by uid 89); 9 Nov 2016 13:00:17 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=no version=3.3.2 spammy=H*F:D*ua, hardly, p.s, ps X-HELO: forward6m.cmail.yandex.net Received: from forward6m.cmail.yandex.net (HELO forward6m.cmail.yandex.net) (5.255.216.199) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with ESMTP; Wed, 09 Nov 2016 13:00:02 +0000 Received: from smtp2o.mail.yandex.net (smtp2o.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1a2d::26]) by forward6m.cmail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id EDF8922566 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2016 15:59:59 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp2o.mail.yandex.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2o.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 9BFAB5080D0B for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2016 15:59:59 +0300 (MSK) Received: by smtp2o.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id QKVKEdsKDm-xwFK5JGc; Wed, 09 Nov 2016 15:59:58 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) X-Yandex-Suid-Status: 1 0 Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2016 13:00:00 -0000 From: Andrey Gursky To: cygwin@cygwin.com Subject: 2.6.x: broken compatibility with Wine Message-Id: <20161109135955.eaa43dafd93c1be2b86554a8@e-mail.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SW-Source: 2016-11/txt/msg00074.txt.bz2 Hi, this issue has been reported 2 month ago [1]. Since MinGW-w64/MSYS2 on Wine is still totally broken and Cygwin is a regression trigger, I'm starting here a thread to track the progress. Qian Hong (fracting) shared an excerpt from IRC-log [2] with some details. Corinna suggested to revert ffcef70. But this didn't happen. I'd like to kindly ask about current considerations towards fixing the lost compatibility. Thanks, Andrey [1] mintty doesn't start under wine-staging https://github.com/Alexpux/MSYS2-packages/issues/682 [2] IRC-log cut https://github.com/Alexpux/MSYS2-packages/issues/682#issuecomment-247065973 P.S. Was it not too early to remove WinXP support? Though it is officially not supported anymore, there are still PCs running WinXP (and Wine). Also there are still systems, I've heard, using some embedded Windows, that shares the same code with WinXP, thus making it not yet truly obsolete. Additionally a lot of work has been done by Cygwin contributors to support this OS and I believe the most of bugs have been workarounded, while due to stopped development it is not likely one has to spend time solving new problems. So was it really worth to drop the hardly crafted code? Are there already some worthwhile advantages? Why wasn't it possible to switch Cygwin WinXP support to just "not officially supported"? (kindly asking) -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple