On Jan 30 19:53, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > On Jan 30 11:47, Brian Inglis wrote: > > On 2019-01-30 10:31, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > > > On Jan 30 09:11, Brian Inglis wrote: > > >> On 2019-01-30 07:03, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > > >>> I uploaded a new Cygwin test release 3.0.0-0.2 > > >>> It also changes the output of uname(2) for newly built applications. > > >>> Applications built so far (that includes uname(1) from coreutils) > > >>> will still print the old uname output. The new format allows for longer > > >>> strings. Compare: > > >>> Upcoming new uname content: > > >>> sysname: CYGWIN_NT-10.0-17763 or CYGWIN_NT-10.0-17763-WOW64 > > >>> release: 3.0.0-335.x86_64 or 3.0.0-335.x86_64.snap > > >>> version: 2019-01-29 19:23 UTC Build time in UTC > > >> Re: "(*) It would really be nice not having to ask for these infos every time." > > >> may want to append HKLM/SOFTWARE/Microsoft/Windows NT/CurrentVersion/UBR to > > >> uname -s sysname to show the patch levels of installed builds, as there appears > > >> to be substantial differences between editions and service models. > > > Thanks for the info, but what to do with this? Is there a thorough > > > description somewhere to allow deciphering what this means to us? > > > > UBR Update Build Revision appears to be incremented for each patch set released > > for the W10 feature set OS build, to complete a unique revision id, similar to > > Cygwin 335 above. > > Would save those of us who know to, having to also run and append the output of > > > > $ cmd /c ver > > > > Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.17134.523] > > > > and save asking those who don't know that, in case the revision makes a difference. > > Insider build feature sets bump the builds, and patch sets bump those revisions; > > up to base releases with known feature sets, builds, and revisions; then patch > > Tuesdays bump those revisions higher; so you can tell if installs are Insider, > > base, or patched. > > I'm not so sure this makes sense from a Cygwin perspective. We're > interested in the major releases introducing changing and/or new > functionality. The monthly updates don't do that so they have no > meaning to us. > > I just wonder if we should replace the build number with the ReleaseId > (i.e. 17763 vs. 1809), but that excludes the fast lane updates from > being visible. On second thought there's also the format discrepancy. Right now the new uname crates the version string like "10.0-17763", but it might be better to use "10.0.17763", replacing the dash with a dot, to follow more closely the OS layout. On third thought it seems prudent to print either 10.0-1809{-WOW64} or 10.0.17763.253{-WOW64} Hmm. The second form appears to make the most sense, actually. Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Cygwin Maintainer